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The futility of Atheism; The beauty of Christianity?

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The Atheist finds comfort and joy in mocking the Christian and the Christian faith proclaiming that those who believe the Bible and trust in Jesus our Messiah are blind fools obsessed with the words of ancient sheep herders, they are gullible, the Christian is lacking wisdom and discernment; whereas, Christianity, the Christian, believes the Scriptures and the truism that it's the "fool" who says there is no God (Psalm 14:1). 

What is most relevant is the daily life and morals of those who hold to the faith of Atheism compared to those who hold to the faith of Christianity. If Atheism is true and moral relativism is the reality of our existence, the Christian loses NOTHING as they have walked with Jesus through daily sanctification via obedience to the indwelling Holy Spirit and pursued a life of virtue, honesty, dignity, love, faithfulness - but - if the tenets of Christianity are true (and they are) the Atheist loses everything as their entire existence culminates in futile nihilism and their eternity vanquishes in the eternal "second death" in Hell (Revelation 20:11-15). 

It is true that Christianity and the life of a Christian is most logical and prudent and reasonable as its precepts and tenets provide for a life in pursuit of sustainable morality and ethics and JOY irrespective of what lies before us at our final exhalation in Time; whereas, Atheism is a most illogical religion as there exists no hope, no future, nothing sustainable, nothing reasonable, illogical nihilism, fatalistic failure.

I choose Jesus, logical, reasonable, faithful. 


 

 



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  • JulesKorngoldJulesKorngold 1061 Pts   -  
    I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
    The sinners are much more fun
    You know that only the good die young.
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1374 Pts   -  
    @JulesKorngold ; Well, you and Billy can perish in Hell together, I'll trust in Jesus.
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 7223 Pts   -  
    Anyone else sees no beauty whatsoever in this guy's comments? Some of the nastiest things I have read over the past year have come from him.
    Joeseph
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1374 Pts   -   edited October 2024
    @MayCaesar ;  you made the "mute" list...enjoy your eternity...if Hell is what you desire, my Lord will honor that desire... You deny Jesus, He will deny you.


  • JulesKorngoldJulesKorngold 1061 Pts   -  
    Argument Topic: Lol

    @RickeyHoltsclaw
    You are too funny to mute.  :D
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1374 Pts   -  
    @JulesKorngold ; I'm glad because I find you entertaining as well.


  • JulesKorngoldJulesKorngold 1061 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Science flies people to the moon.

    Religion flies people into buildings.

    polytheistwitch
  • FactfinderFactfinder 2233 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    The Atheist finds comfort and joy in mocking the Christian and the Christian faith proclaiming that those who believe the Bible and trust in Jesus our Messiah are blind fools obsessed with the words of ancient sheep herders, they are gullible, the Christian is lacking wisdom and discernment; whereas, Christianity, the Christian, believes the Scriptures and the truism that it's the "fool" who says there is no God (Psalm 14:1). 

    The atheist does not find joy in mocking Christians. It's completely fine with most atheists for you to believe in what ever you want. It's when you judge those who don't believe you, and remark that 'fools' don't believe you, it's then we generally respond by pointing out the fact you believe in what ancient bronze aged goat herders imagined in a collection of erroneous, unprovable myths and fairytales.

    What is most relevant is the daily life and morals of those who hold to the faith of Atheism compared to those who hold to the faith of Christianity. If Atheism is true and moral relativism is the reality of our existence, the Christian loses NOTHING as they have walked with Jesus through daily sanctification via obedience to the indwelling Holy Spirit and pursued a life of virtue, honesty, dignity, love, faithfulness - but - if the tenets of Christianity are true (and they are) the Atheist loses everything as their entire existence culminates in futile nihilism and their eternity vanquishes in the eternal "second death" in Hell (Revelation 20:11-15). 

    Morals are relative, the Christian is no different in this. Even if you blindly stick to what you consider to be a moral apparatus out of the bible, it's still the concept of people from a different time and there is no evidence it came from a fictious character. Indwelled by a holy spirit that has no divine information at all, just the scientifically factually incorrect bible while at the same time just as many atheists "pursued a life of virtue, honesty, dignity, love, faithfulness". Got news for you ricky, you ain't taken nothing with you either when you die.

    It is true that Christianity and the life of a Christian is most logical and prudent and reasonable as its precepts and tenets provide for a life in pursuit of sustainable morality and ethics and JOY irrespective of what lies before us at our final exhalation in Time; whereas, Atheism is a most illogical religion as there exists no hope, no future, nothing sustainable, nothing reasonable, illogical nihilism, fatalistic failure.

    No wonder you're scared of hell and a staunch believer. Man has imagined he has found away, or has imagined if he could find a way; to cheat death what would it be like? I suspect since we first began developing languages. Harps in heaven? Lightening bolts in hand? Paradise? Streets of gold, gates of pearls? Beautiful? Strong? Fertile? Forever being treated like you're the center of the universe? All much envied earthly character traits and desires that are most likely not going to exist for you after death because as scary as it is, it's real. Making it illogical to think you will take with you or have handed to you earthly treasures of the heart. Even if you remember to say "in Jesus's name".

    I choose Jesus, logical, reasonable, faithful. 

    I choose logic, facts, reason, knowledge and the truth. Even if it's unknown at this time and I believe in a rational approach to what is known coupled with what's being uncovered.
    Joesephpolytheistwitch
  • JoesephJoeseph 1763 Pts   -  
    The Atheist finds comfort and joy in mocking the Christian and the Christian faith 

    Thats yet another lie from you , as an Atheist I believe  hate filled bigots like you are deserving of mockery amd ridicule.

    For you to even claim to be a christian is ludicrious and a gross insult to the many decent honourable christians I know.

    What part of christianity do you even pretend to follow when you're not spewing hate online?
    MayCaesar
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 7223 Pts   -  
    The Christian morality has been sustainable indeed. It has sustained burning of civilizations and rivers of blood for nearly two millennia! Especially when it clashed with another sustainable morality, the Muslim one. When two sustainable moralities meet each other on a walkway, we get a real treat.
    Joeseph
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1374 Pts   -  
    @JulesKorngold ; Religion is death to the mind, soul, body, eternally. Jesus is LIFE.


  •  @RickeyHoltsclaw

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    RickeyHoltsclaw, this Religion Forums number one BIBLE FOOL!

    YOUR QUOTE WHERE YOU WERE LEAVING THIS RELIGION FORUM:  @just_sayin "God Bless You...thank you for serving our Lord. I'll hang around for a bit...see what topics are offered for discussion. Lost a lot of interest in this atheist plagued forum...stay strong. Thank you." 

    https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/192742/#Comment_192742


    RICKEY, why are you still in this Religion Forum, where in essence in your quote above, you stated that you "lost interest" because there are too many Atheists that easily Bible Slap you Silly all the time in this forum, therefore, to save yourself from further embarrassment in front of your family and friends, you should actually LEAVE this time because it was great when you took a short sabbatical because the ATHEISTS didn't have to correct your Bible Duncery!

    Rickey, just say "Goodbye" and don't incumber us anymore in having to correct you upon your primitive thinking Goat Herder Bronze and Iron Age Christianity!

    BE GONE SATAN!








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  • 21CenturyIconoclast21CenturyIconoclast 687 Pts   -   edited October 2024
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    RickeyHoltsclaw, the number one BIBLE FOOL of this Religion Forum!


    1. Rickey, you biblically LIE*D when you said you only need FAITH for Salvation, but I biblically corrected you again in where you need WORKS as well for Salvation in my post below that made you the Bible Dunce again!:

    https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/192028/#Comment_192028


    2. Rickey, you LIE*D” when you said that Jesus is the Messiah because all I needed was one biblical axiom that showed that Jesus WAS NOT the Messiah, therefore Jesus is not the Messiah as explicitly shown in the post below!: 

    https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/192022/#Comment_192022


    3. Rickey, you LIE*D when you said life begins at conception, where I had to correct you again where Jesus showed that life begins with the “first breath,”where in essence, you called Jesus a LIA*R!!!

    https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/192309/#Comment_192309


    Therefore RickeyHoltsclaw, in deducing your situation to the irreducible primary, YOU ARE AN HABITUAL are as follows:, 

    YOU ARE THE ONE GOING TO HELL UPON YOUR DEMISE AS JESUS’ INSPIRED WORDS STATE HEREWITH!:

    “But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, AND ALL LIARS their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” (Revelation 21:8)

    Rickey, I would suggest that you start wearing “asbestos suits” in case Jesus takes you earlier than you expect, do you understand this simple proposition?  You have too!!! LOL!


    ATHEISTS, ALL RICKEY CAN PROMOTE TO THE ATHEIST IS THAT WE’RE GOING TO HELL, THEREFORE WHEN HE DOES IT AGAIN TO YOU, COPY AND PASTE THIS POSTS LINK AND SHOVE IT BACK TO HIM WHERE HE IS THE ONE GOING TO HELL, SO SAITH JESUS’ INSPIRED WORDS, PRAISE JESUS' REVENGE!









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  • @RickeyHoltsclaw


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    RICKEY, YOUR QUOTE WHERE YOU ADMIT THAT YOUR SERIAL KILLER JESUS WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR HURRICAND HELENE!:  @21CenturyIconoclast ; “My Lord had mercy upon my Island in the Gulf...I am very thankful.”

    https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/192409/#Comment_192409


    Yes Rickey, because of certain biblical passages Jesus is responsible for controling the weather and the oceans, where he killed over 200 people with his hurricane “Helene!”  How sad. But, when you're a dumbfounded pseudo-christian like you, then you have to accept Jesus' killing nature!


    1. Rickey, do you want to apologize for Jesus in killing so many innocent of his creation on the Eastern sea front of the USA?, YES OR NO?

    2. Do you want to apologize additionally for Jesus’ next hurricane named “Milton” that is going to be stronger than Helene that will hit the Gulf Coast on Wednesday? YES OR NO?

    We can only wonder in how many more people that Jesus will kill in this upcoming severe Milton hurricane, so sad, and inept pseudo-christians still worship this killer Jesus as god!.  :(


    THE BRUTAL SERIAL KILLER JESUS AS GOD CONTROLS THE WEATHER TO KILL HIS CREATION AT WILL WITH HURRICANES, AS SHOWN IN THE VERSES BELOW, PRAISE JESUS’ KILLING NATURE!

    Fire and hail, snow and mist, stormy wind fulfilling his word!” (Psalm 148:8)

    But the Lord hurled a great wind upon the sea, and there was a mighty tempest on the sea, so that the ship threatened to break up.” (Jonah 1:4)

    Though he may flourish among his brothers, the east wind, the wind of the Lord, shall come, rising from the wilderness, and his fountain shall dry up; his spring shall be parched; it shall strip his treasury of every precious thing.” (Hosea 13:15)

    He made the storm be still, and the waves of the sea were hushed.” (Psalm 107:29)

    And great hailstones, about one hundred pounds each, fell from heaven on people; and they cursed God for the plague of the hail, because the plague was so severe.” (Revelation 16”21)



    HERE IS AN IMAGE OF JESUS’ NEXT BRUTAL KILLING HURRICANE NAMED “MILTON” THAT WILL KILL MORE OF HIS CREATION!

    PRAISE JESUS’ LOVING AND FORGIVING NATURE!






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  • FredsnephewFredsnephew 521 Pts   -  
    Argument Topic: Hey Rickey

    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Futility is trying to re-programme each other for half an hour at breakfast time.

    Have a nice day.
  • polytheistwitchpolytheistwitch 396 Pts   -  
    The only difference between an atheist and Christian is belief in one god or none. 
    Factfinder
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1374 Pts   -  
    @polytheistwitch ; The differentiation between the atheist and the Christian is Hell and Heaven and life of meaning, eternally.


    polytheistwitch
  • FredsnephewFredsnephew 521 Pts   -  
    Argument Topic: Tricky Rickey.

    @RickeyHoltsclaw.

    The difference between a Christian and and Atheist is data programming, data assessment and data output.
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1374 Pts   -  
    @Fredsnephew ; Data being the Scriptures provides a modicum of relevance to your rebuttal by only the Living Word saves...not man's "data."


  • FactfinderFactfinder 2233 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Data being the Scriptures provides a modicum of relevance to your rebuttal by only the Living Word saves...not man's "data."

    The "Living Word" is scribed by people seeking power and reverence. That is why it is full of error, half truths, lies and myth in order to manipulate. Facts trump fantasy. Religion=bad programming.

  • 21CenturyIconoclast21CenturyIconoclast 687 Pts   -   edited October 2024
    @RickeyHoltsclaw


    RickeyHoltsclaw has yet to apologize for his brutal serial killer Jesus as god for killing and destroying his creations belongings in the Helene and Milton hurricanes!  We can only assume that he is to embarrassed about what his god did to these poor souls where they lost everything, and their family members and friends!
    https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/192856/#Comment_192856

    We can't Blame Rickey for not wanting to apologize in this manner for his Jesus as god.  Poor Rickey in running away again from his Jesus, how sad. :(



    HERE IS AN IMAGE OF RICKEYHOLTSCLAW'S BIBLE, WHERE HE CUT OUT

    ALL OF THE DISTURBING PASSAGES THAT SHOW JESUS AS A BRUTAL KILLER
    OF INNOCENT CHILDREN!  










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  • @RickeyHoltsclaw

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    MEMBERSHIP: PERTAINING TO THE RUNAWAY RICKEYHOLTSCLAW!

    Well, as explicitly seen since the poor RickeyHoltsclaw came back from his sabbatical of taking a short time off to try and regroup from being easily Bible Slapped Silly by Atheists that have forgotten more about the Bible than he will ever learn from it, the Christian Cultist Rickey cannot address my posts directed to him anymore!!!  

    I knew this day would eventually come in his behalf because it was to easy for me to make him this Religion Forum's number one BIBLE FOOL, as other Atheists as well did with ease! LOL!


    Here is a video of "RickeyHoltsclaw" since he cannot 
    address my posts anymore, but to only run away from them and hide
    and he wants to call himself a Christian?!  NOT!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI7ni7zL8qU



    RUN RICKEY, RUN AWAY FROM ME BEING AN ATHEIST 
    THAT EASILY OWNS YOU AND YOUR CULTIST FAITH 
    OF CHRISTIANITY, PRAISE ZEUS!





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  • JulesKorngoldJulesKorngold 1061 Pts   -  
    May be an image of text
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1374 Pts   -  
    @Fredsnephew ; The difference between a Christian and an Atheist is Light v. darkness; Life v. death; Health v. disease; Truth v. deception; Hope v. nihilism; Eternity v. death in Hell. You have chosen the "fools" path (Psalm 14:1), the Christian has chosen the Path to Life and Peace and Assurance in Jesus (Romans 5:1).


  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1374 Pts   -  
    @JulesKorngold ; Without Jesus as your Messiah, you will die in Hell.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 2233 Pts   -  
    Debunking Christianity Rampant Idiocy in Christian Belief
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1374 Pts   -  
    I implore those those who have not destroyed their soul via atheism to disregard @Factfinder as he is demonically persuaded and will guide your soul into Hell with glee and arrogance. Trust in Jesus, find life in the Holy Spirit, read the Gospel of John, live in peace and assurance eternally...don't follow demons like @Factfinder ; @Joeseph ; @21CenturyIconoclast into Hell...these are unworthy of your time and consideration...let them go to Hell...don't follow them!


  • FactfinderFactfinder 2233 Pts   -  
    Fake Quotes from the Founding Fathers


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  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 1374 Pts   -  
    As I have said and @Factfinder clearly demonstrates...do not follow the demonic individuals into Hell.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 2233 Pts   -  
    Debunking Christianity Rampant Idiocy in Christian Belief
  • @RickeyHoltsclaw

    BIBLE DUMB ASSSSS RICKEYHOLTSCLAW,

    You keep blathering that the Atheists are going to hell, of which we don't believe in as a fairytale of the primitive thinking JUDEO-Christian Bronze and Iron Age bible, whereas once again, IT IS YOU THAT IS GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL BECAUSE OF YOUR OUTRIGHT BIBLICAL STOOPITIDY IN LYING ABOUT YOUR FAITH AS SHOWN BELOW!

    1. Rickey, you biblically LIE*D when you said you only need FAITH for Salvation, but I biblically corrected you again in where you need WORKS as well for Salvation in my post below that made you the Bible Dunce again!:

    https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/192028/#Comment_192028

    2. Rickey, you LIE*D” when you said that Jesus is the Messiah because all I needed was one biblical axiom that showed that Jesus WAS NOT the Messiah, therefore Jesus is not the Messiah as explicitly shown in the post below!: 

    https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/192022/#Comment_192022

    3. Rickey, you LIE*D when you said life begins at conception, where I had to correct you again where Jesus showed that life begins with the “first breath,”where in essence, you called Jesus a LIA*R!!!

    https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/192309/#Comment_192309


    Therefore RickeyHoltsclaw, in deducing your situation to the irreducible primary, you are an habitual LIA*R of your faith where Jesus' words below tell you that you are HELL BOUND upon your demise!!

    “But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, AND ALL LIARS their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” (Revelation 21:8)


    How does it feel RickeyHoltsclaw in knowing that you are HELL BOUND after you take your last breath?  Can you tell us if you are scared and how it feels to be BIBLE DUMB, or if you can't because because you're to embarrassed, then remain silent like you have to do with me in the first place because I outright OWN you and your Fatih!  LOL!


    RUN RICKEY, RUN AWAY LIKE THE "BIBLE LOSER" YOU ARE!







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  • JulesKorngoldJulesKorngold 1061 Pts   -  
    As a 95% atheist, I find no futility in embracing reason, evidence, and the natural world as the basis for understanding our existence. The true beauty lies in the awe-inspiring vastness of the cosmos, the wonder of scientific discovery, and the capacity for human kindness and morality without the need for supernatural beliefs.
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