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king solomon

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according to what I understand, king Solomon wrote the poetry yet if so, I am confused by the content. The king, being a male seems to be in a sexual relationship, either physical or mentally with another male.  Will someone enlighten me?



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  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -   edited December 2019

    Solomon and Homosexuality


    In I Kings 11:1-2 we find the following comments from God: "But King Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites; Of the nations concerning which the Lord said unto the Children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love."

    Solomon had approximately 600-wives and 300-concubine and nowhere is it even suggested that Solomon was a homosexual but it is true that Solomon disobeyed God concerning taking many wives and taking wives from the heathen tribes around him and the pagan worship that came with these wives. It was the pagan practice of homosexuality that was introduced into Israel due to Solomon's compromise with paganism.

    This counsel to not marry with heathen wives was given to Israel by God in Exodus 34:10-17 and reads as follows:

    "10 And he said, Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels, such as have not been done in all the earth, nor in any nation: and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the LORD: for it is a terrible thing that I will do with thee.
    11 Observe thou that which I command thee this day: behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.

    12 Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:

    13 But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:

    14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

    15 Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;

    16 And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.

    17 Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.

    All of the above data was available to Solomon and should have been incorporated into his view of life. But Solomon had slowly but surely cast off the Bible as His source of instruction and guidance. He apparently was living in the security that he could trust his own wisdom and need not consult with God to guide his footsteps. Proverbs 16:9; Psalms 73:2-3
    After making the decision to have strange wives, Solomon began to reap the harvest of his decisions. As a result of marrying these wives in rebellion against the counsel of God, they turned his heart, and they enticed him to worship their gods in harmony with their religious traditions. As a result of this decision many strange errors came into Israel. One of those errors was the sin of homosexuality – sexual contact with persons of the same sex.

    We know that homosexuality was one of the many activities of the Canaanites from the book of Leviticus 18:1-5, 22, 24-30:
    "1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

    2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, I am the LORD your God.

    3 After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances.

    4 Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the LORD your God.

    5 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD.
    22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

    24 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:

    25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.

    26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:

    27 (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;)

    28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.

    29 For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.

    30 Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God.
    It is an abomination to our God for a man to be sexually active with a man or a woman being sexually active with a woman. Leviticus 18 clearly states that one of the activities, which God calls an abomination, was that of homosexual contact.

    When Solomon opened the doors to participate in his wives worship activities then one of the things that came with it was to introduce homosexuality to the nation of Israel and thus to communicate this abomination to the rest of the world. We know this because the world was coming to Solomon for instruction on how to do things the way that God would have them to live. His worship activities would be part of that instructional process.
    We know that homosexuality was started and developed in Israel because the Bible tells us it happened. I Kings 14:22-24 "And Judah did evil in the sight of the Lord, and they provoked Him to jealousy with their sins which they had committed, above all that their fathers had done. For they also built them high places, and images, and groves, on every high hill, and under every green tree. And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations, which the Lord cast out before the children of Israel" This happened during the time of Rehoboam Solomon’s son.

    A Sodomite is one who practices Sodomy. Sodomy is defined in the dictionary as the homosexual proclivities of the men of Sodom; carnal copulation with a member of the same sex or with an animal; or non-coital copulation with a member of the opposite sex. In some studies a Sodomite is one who is a male temple prostitute. One who is an active sexual partner, for males, and possibly females, in a religious service. But however one wants to define a Sodomite God pronounces it as an abomination especially in the context of any sexual conduct outside of the marriage arena, and certainly in light of what we have read in Leviticus 18:22 – "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination.

    Solomon should not have married his wives, and he should not have allowed his wives religious practices to contaminate the land. God wants purity of character to be seen in all human conduct and especially including sexual behaviors. But Solomon, once he had let his hold go on God, was not manly enough to stand up to his wives but was a pawn in their religious activities.

    Some think that the prohibition against homosexuality is simply and antiquated Old Testament error. But all through Scripture God is very consistent in his rejection of homosexuality as a behavior. Whenever any of the kings of Israel were in a state of righteousness one of the things that happened was that any signs of Sodomy/Homosexuality were removed. See Deuteronomy 23:17-18; Judges 19-20; I Kings 15:11-12; I Kings 22:44-45; II Kings 23:7.

    In the New Testament one of the consistent themes of Paul is his condemnation of sexual activity outside of the marital relationship and especially that of man with man or woman with woman. Romans 1:24-27. Paul even goes to far as to copy the Old Testament provision that homosexuality was worthy of death, along with all of the other sins listed in Romans 1:29-32. Paul was not isolating homosexuality from all of the other sins but was directly including homosexuality as something worthy of death. Paul repeats this concept in I Corinthians 6:9 by incorporating effeminate behavior and abusing of themselves with mankind.

    John the Revelator states that any abomination – mankind having sexual contact with mankind, will have its part in the lake of fire. Revelation 21:8. He then repeats this when talking about dogs – male homosexual or male sexual prostitute Deuteronomy 23:17-18 – can not enter into the New Jerusalem. John includes this sin in a list of other sins; again, to God all sin is worthy of death. Revelation 22:14-15
    See: http://the1844way.com/solhomo.html

    Solomon obviously had a change of heart by the end of his life as he discovered that all of the gold, sex, entertainment, notoriety, popularity, power, influence, was nothing but vanity and chasing after the wind and only a relationship with God, our Creator, truly satisfies the heart of man for Eternity.



  • maxxmaxx 1131 Pts   -  
    no.  a copy and paste is not what I want sir.  read it and you will see he is talking about a male@RickeyD
  • maxxmaxx 1131 Pts   -  
    no.  a copy and paste is not what I want sir.  read it and you will see he is talking about a male@RickeyD
  • RickeyDRickeyD 953 Pts   -   edited December 2019
    @maxx ; Your question was answered. End.
  • SandSand 307 Pts   -  
    The song of Solomon is about the Shulamite maiden that Solomon loved, but she loved the shepherd boy.
    Solomon was more romantic, had more money, power, attractiveness, and felt he could make her happier.
    But she chose the shepherd boy over all of that because of her love for him and his love for her.
    So Solomon writes why he was turned down and how strong their love was for each other.
    The poem is about how if someone allows love to develop, love can grow so strong that there is nothing that can stand against it.

    Some of the references are words used to woo the Shulamite.

    The book is written in a way that can be very confusing.
  • maxxmaxx 1131 Pts   -  
    yes, especially instead of using she, he uses the word he.  if one reads it through then you have 2 choices; either he is talking about a male, or he is writing it from the maidens point of veiw  @Sand
  • SandSand 307 Pts   -  
    I see what you are referring to.
    Solomon is writing from the Shulamite's perspective.
    At times he is writing from the shepherd boy perspective.

    Because the wording is not like a typical story, a person could read it and take Shulamite's words as if it is from a man's perspective.

    It is mostly because of now because gender are not automatically assumed.


  • maxxmaxx 1131 Pts   -  
    ok  thanks@Sand
    Sand
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