Looking to be educated from some, and their views?

Dee

****I'm hoping for some fair, and equal responses, please?

Translation .....You’re trolling .....again 


*****Can any non Religious individual, or a Religious individual, provide the Internet Public, with some legitimate reference material, that can substantiate the claims, of God being an Atheist?


Sure , the god you claim to worship does not accept  Allah as the one true god ......your god is an Atheist 

****The names of any Author, or the names of their published Science books? 

You mean science books that prove the Christian god? .....please produce them? 



***I’d  like to be able to go to any Book store, and buy that book, so that I may be able to share the findings from those Science books, with the internet Public of this forum.

Maybe Barnes and Noble?

Maybe Books A Million?

Maybe Amazon?

Or if there is an Atheist website, that carries those same Science books as well?****


 I would be interested also that you might have some legitimate reference material, that can prove  the claims, of God being not being an Atheist?  Maybe you could ask in the bookshops where one might get a book saying your god accepted Allah as his god? 

From your anti Allah mindset? Why not interview god and ask him why he rejects Allah? Maybe calla press conference? 




****/I can go to any of the above named stores or websites, and buy a copy of the Bible, but I have a feeling that no where in the Bible, does it substantiate any verbiage, that may state, that God is an Atheist, from within the very confines of its own words, or pages.

Yet in the Bible where does your god state Allah is the one true god? Your Christian bis# and mindset should hold a press conference and get god to explain his atheism?

*****Because I have the feeling, that if that had been the case, the World, would have heard about that published notion, of God being an Atheist, long before now? 

You’re hearing it now , so show us where your god recognizes Allah as his god? Where is your published notion supporting your Christian bias mindset?

*****Can anyone through the various subject of Science, Religious oriented, or Atheist oriented, substantiate the claims of some, in stating that God is an Atheist, with some real world evidence? 

Demonstrate where you god accepts Allah or admit he’s an atheist? 

AlofRI

All I would offer is, if it doesn't exist …. how can it be ANYTHING?? 

MayCaesar

You are always so dead serious... Loosen up, friend. The "god is an atheist" statement was obviously a piece of humor, even if it was a logically sound piece.

In addition, the statement was derived from pure abstract logic. There is no need for any sources; you should learn to not rely on other people and books to tell you what is true and what is not, and to use your own judgement instead.

I recently had a conversation with my father, where he pointed out an interesting aspect of "holy books": that they all are completely devoid of humor. They are written in a dry, benevolent way, and make for a very depressing read. As a consequence, many religious people themselves are very serious all the time, unable to take any jokes.
A similar aspect can be attributed to writings on other authoritarian ideologies, such as socialism or nationalism. Read Karl Marx or Benito Mussolini; they do not understand what humor is.
Today's UK election predictably resulted in underperformance of the Labor Party. Jeremy Corbyn, its leader, is almost solely to blame for this outcome. I saw this guy for the first time a few years ago, and he rubbed me the wrong way even then: always serious and bitter, always with that snarly expression. I recently watched an Oxford debate on socialism, and three individuals were defending socialism, one of whom was Corbyn. When an anti-socialist speaker made a lot of light-hearted jokes about socialists, the other two individuals took the jokes and laughed it off, while Corbyn was just sitting there with the expression similar to the one you make when you smell an awful odor all of a sudden. The guy is completely stuck in his ideological dogmatism and cannot see the world outside of his narrow mental box.

That is something authoritarian ideologies and their most faithful followers tend to exhibit. You guys should relax sometimes, loosen up, drink a glass of wine and laugh at absurdities of life. You do not have to be so stiff and dry all the time. You will not go to hell over a few jokes about god.

AmericanFurryBoy

God would be an Atheist because he doesn’t believe in a power higher than him

ZeusAres42

AmericanFurryBoy said:

God would be an Atheist because he doesn’t believe in a power higher than him

From my understanding you are also a religious person @AmericanFurryBoy ? Anyway, I've heard other Theists welcome and accept this idea that God is an Atheist if he exists because it logically follows.

But not everyone will get this as you've already witnessed. Or they do get it but just like to troll and say things anyway because they're some kind of low life with nothing better to do with their sad selves.

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

Or if there is an Atheist website, that carries those same Science books as well?

Oh absolutely. There's Atheist websites, also Atheist candy, Atheist chocolate, atheist airplanes, Atheists boats, Atheist theme parks, Atheist music stores, Atheist ships, Atheist MacDonald, Atheist Burger Kings, Atheist vacations. You name, we got it. Satire!

piloteer

ZeusAres42 said:

TKDB said:

Or if there is an Atheist website, that carries those same Science books as well?

Oh absolutely. There's Atheist websites, also Atheist candy, Atheist chocolate, atheist airplanes, Atheists boats, Atheist theme parks, Atheist music stores, Atheist ships, Atheist MacDonald, Atheist Burger Kings, Atheist vacations. You name, we got it. Satire!

Don't forget atheist Spongebob, or agnostic Patrick!!!! 

TKDB

@ZeusAres42

What does (your satire) have to do with SCIENCE?

The SCIENCE, that is the supposed DNA of the non religious Atheist ideology?

You're off topic.

"Oh absolutely. There's Atheist websites, also Atheist candy, Atheist chocolate, atheist airplanes, Atheists boats, Atheist theme parks, Atheist music stores, Atheist ships, Atheist MacDonald, Atheist Burger Kings, Atheist vacations. You name, we got it. Satire!"

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

What does (your satire) have to do with SCIENCE?

The SCIENCE, that is the supposed DNA of the non religious Atheist ideology?

You're off topic.

"Oh absolutely. There's Atheist websites, also Atheist candy, Atheist chocolate, atheist airplanes, Atheists boats, Atheist theme parks, Atheist music stores, Atheist ships, Atheist MacDonald, Atheist Burger Kings, Atheist vacations. You name, we got it. Satire!"

What has science got to do with religion and atheism? Sorry sir, you're off topic. This is the correct section for science discussion: https://www.debateisland.com/categories/science.

Feel free to ask aarong or another Mod if you need help.

TKDB

@ZeusAres42

Do you want to explain to Aarong, how you're interfering with this forum, through your unequal and unfair perceptions? 

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

Do you want to explain to Aarong, how you're interfering with this forum, through your unequal and unfair perceptions? 

I'm merely just giving you some advice about how to post relevant discussions in the relevant sections. You're making arguments about science on a religious section. How is that relevant, and fair to science communities? Please use https://www.debateisland.com/categories/science for science discussions.

If you would like me to ask aarong for help on your behalf then I'd be happy to do so.

TKDB

@ZeusAres42

Some of the individual Atheists, are the very individuals who brought the subject of Science, into the Religion conversation to begin with:

"God is an Atheist!"

I asked you the below in another forum;

Now Allah is being pulled into your forum?

What has Allah, or Islam personally ever done to interfere with your Atheist lifestyle? 

God's not an Atheist, and God created Science.

And there is no Man Made Science book, in existence, that can prove that God is an Atheist. 

From you, to Dee:


Dee said:

@ZeusAres42

It’s obvious @TKDB is an Atheist as he denies Allah .....

"What's kind of amusing is the arguments we're giving him are the exact same arguments he is giving us but presented back to him in the opposite version, and he doesn't even realize it. Just goes to show how seriously lacking in any kind of self awareness he actually is.

And what's also amusing is when he tries to defend against these arguments and claims they're coming from our mindsets when there actually his own arguments coming from his own mindset as he is the one that set the tone of this argumentation style. And all we're doing is merely playing along with his pathetic game. What a poor soul he is indeed. @Dee"

"You gotta love reductio ad consequentia and reductio ad absurd @Dee


I didn't bring Science into the conversation or Allah and Islam, but those other separate conversations, were brought into more of the conversation from other Atheists , it would seem? 


And this from you as well:

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

What book of Science, did you use to come up with your question?

"This is not a science discussion. For a science discussion please use the appropriate section. And if you are going to use the science section for a science discussion please make it relevant to actual science."

The evidence continues to mount daily, that the internet is increasingly growing with various Atheists throwing Science at Religion, God, and Jesus, as a way to debunk Religion, over and over again, true or not? 

So Science, has become relevant to the Religion conversation, because, some Atheist have made it relevant, via their individual Atheist perceptions, true or not?  

It's become a hybrid conversation, by mixing Science and Atheism, as maybe a way to place Religion in general in a negative type of lighting?  


@ZeusAres42

This is why, I made the below statement, as the core relevant argument, for this forum: 


(I'm hoping for some fair, and equal responses, please?

Can any non Religious individual, or a Religious individual, provide the Internet Public, with some legitimate reference material, that can substantiate the claims, of God being an Atheist?

The names of any Author, or the names of their published Science books? 

I'd like to be able to go to any Book store, and buy that book, so that I may be able to share the findings from those Science books, with the internet Public of this forum.)

 

TKDB

Can any religious individual, or any non religious individual, share some book titles with this forum, that can shed some educational, and enlightening reading material, in regards to any subject of Science explaining, how God is an Atheist? 

Dee

@TKDB

*****Can any religious individual, or any non religious individual, share some book titles with this forum, that can shed some educational, and enlightening reading material, in regards to any subject of Science explaining, how God is an Atheist? ****


Can any religious person deny that the Christian God admits his Atheism in the bible by claiming he's the one true god?

Can @TKDB as a bias Christian mouthpiece offer up from his own mindset why god never mentions Allah in the bible thus admitting his Atheism?

Maybe you could get Mr Lane Craig's views on the matter and hold a press conference?

For your anti Allah perceptions?

Maybe perhaps ask your god to explain his atheistic world views? 

Maybe ask him and Mr Craig to explain gods Atheism?

Dee

God says in the bible he is the one true god , god admits he's an Atheist in his own words from his Atheistic mindset @TKDB

Maybe you can get Mr Lane Craig to hold a press conference admitting you , him ad god are atheists from your anti Allah perceptions?

Maybe perhaps you can explain why your god is an atheist , maybe get one of them science books explains why he's not?

 

Can any non Religious individual, or a Religious individual, provide the Internet Public, with some legitimate reference material, that can deny the claims, of God being an Atheist?

The names of any Author, or the names of their published Science books? 

I'd like to be able to go to any Book store, and buy that book, so that I may be able to share the findings from those Science books, with the internet Public of this forum.)

JesusisGod777888

@TKDB

You're barking up the wrong tree.

The world fictionalized evil, so it can be evil.

It's not that hard kid. Jesus is God and he loves but he also destroys the wicked.

I keep telling you to convert to Christianity. Romans 10:9.
Christians KNOW GOD and that's he's Jesus.

The Lord is Jesus Christ.

Why do you think Christians vehemently disagree with the world.

The people who go against God's order are going to be put out of existence.

Don't play with what God has given you. Romans 10:9

JesusisGod777888

 2 Thessalonians 1:9 

9  Who G3748 shall be punished G1349 G5099 with everlasting G166 destruction G3639 from G575 the presence G4383 of the Lord G2962, and G2532 from G575 the glory G1391 of his G846 power G2479;


I have a theory based on the context 

Everlasting destruction without end, never to cease, everlasting

Could imply that those who are eternally destroyed cease to exist

After all how do you die as a spirit and continue existing

2 Thessalonians 1:9

Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Dee

@JesusisGod777888

**** You're barking up the wrong tree.

So are you and @TKDB  your denial of Allah makes you just like the Christian god as in an atheist , welcome to the club

Dee

@TKDB

***** Do you want to explain to Aarong, how you're interfering with this forum, through your unequal and unfair perceptions?

Do you want to explain to Aarong, how you're interfering with this forum, through your unequal and unfair perceptions?

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

Some of the individual Atheists, are the very individuals who brought the subject of Science, into the Religion conversation to begin with:

"God is an Atheist!"

I asked you the below in another forum;

Now Allah is being pulled into your forum?

What has Allah, or Islam personally ever done to interfere with your Atheist lifestyle? 

God's not an Atheist, and God created Science.

And there is no Man Made Science book, in existence, that can prove that God is an Atheist. 

From you, to Dee:


Dee said:

@ZeusAres42

It’s obvious @TKDB is an Atheist as he denies Allah .....

"What's kind of amusing is the arguments we're giving him are the exact same arguments he is giving us but presented back to him in the opposite version, and he doesn't even realize it. Just goes to show how seriously lacking in any kind of self awareness he actually is.

And what's also amusing is when he tries to defend against these arguments and claims they're coming from our mindsets when there actually his own arguments coming from his own mindset as he is the one that set the tone of this argumentation style. And all we're doing is merely playing along with his pathetic game. What a poor soul he is indeed. @Dee"

"You gotta love reductio ad consequentia and reductio ad absurd @Dee


I didn't bring Science into the conversation or Allah and Islam, but those other separate conversations, were brought into more of the conversation from other Atheists , it would seem? 


And this from you as well:

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

What book of Science, did you use to come up with your question?

"This is not a science discussion. For a science discussion please use the appropriate section. And if you are going to use the science section for a science discussion please make it relevant to actual science."

The evidence continues to mount daily, that the internet is increasingly growing with various Atheists throwing Science at Religion, God, and Jesus, as a way to debunk Religion, over and over again, true or not? 

So Science, has become relevant to the Religion conversation, because, some Atheist have made it relevant, via their individual Atheist perceptions, true or not?  

It's become a hybrid conversation, by mixing Science and Atheism, as maybe a way to place Religion in general in a negative type of lighting?  


@ZeusAres42

This is why, I made the below statement, as the core relevant argument, for this forum: 


(I'm hoping for some fair, and equal responses, please?

Can any non Religious individual, or a Religious individual, provide the Internet Public, with some legitimate reference material, that can substantiate the claims, of God being an Atheist?

The names of any Author, or the names of their published Science books? 

I'd like to be able to go to any Book store, and buy that book, so that I may be able to share the findings from those Science books, with the internet Public of this forum.)

 

I know you asked about a science question on my previous thread which was about religion. Please keep science discussions in the science section and religious discussions in the religious sections. That is why there have been categories made for each. Just as you wouldn't (or at least I hope you wouldn't) make a Geography discussion in a computer science section. Please have to courtesy to keep the relevant discussion in the relevant sections as clearly outlined by debateisland.com. Here is the religious category: https://www.debateisland.com/categories/religion. And here is the science category:  https://www.debateisland.com/categories/science @TkDB

TKDB

@ZeusAres42

Are you trying to censor my argument?

Is this notion by you a "Separation of Church," argument, via the Internet, when it comes to the hybrid conversation of Science and Religion in the same conversation? 

"I know you asked about a science question on my previous thread which was about religion. Please keep science discussions in the science section and religious discussions in the religious sections. That is why there have been categories made for each. Just as you wouldn't (or at least I hope you wouldn't) make a Geography discussion in a computer science section. Please have to courtesy to keep the relevant discussion in the relevant sections as clearly outlined by debateisland.com."

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

Are you trying to censor my argument?

Is this notion by you a "Separation of Church," argument, via the Internet, when it comes to the hybrid conversation of Science and Religion in the same conversation? 

"I know you asked about a science question on my previous thread which was about religion. Please keep science discussions in the science section and religious discussions in the religious sections. That is why there have been categories made for each. Just as you wouldn't (or at least I hope you wouldn't) make a Geography discussion in a computer science section. Please have to courtesy to keep the relevant discussion in the relevant sections as clearly outlined by debateisland.com."

Try to read my post exactly as it is rather than trying to guess I mean something else. It means exactly what it says. As also outlined by this site debateisland.com there is a category for science and a category for religion. Please use them.  Science is a vast subject with multiple subsets with millions of different scientists across the globe all doing things science-related which have absolutely nothing to do with religion or God. Science is not concerned one little bit about religion, whether God exists or who he was; that is not the job of science.  Plus, there are millions of scientists across the globe, some of them Muslim, Some Christians, Some Jews, Some Agnostic, Some Atheist, Some Apatheist, etc. And just as these scientists are able to keep their religious beliefs or non-religious beliefs separate from their scientific jobs could you please have the courtesy to keep relevant discussions in the relevant sections.

That will be all. Thanks.

Dee

@TKDB



***** Are you trying to censor my argument?

You’re being corrected not censored 

*****Is this notion by you a "Separation of Church," argument, via the Internet, when it comes to the hybrid conversation of Science and Religion in the same conversation? 

Post any science questions in the science section , it’s a tricky concept for you I know as you do get awfully confused don’t you?


Congrats on your recent realization you’re an atheist.....welcome to the club 

TKDB

@ZeusAres42

I created this forum, therefore you're off topic.

And I have asked for anyone from the Public, to provide a real world Science book, and the Author of that same Science book, that can provide real world evidence, to support the notion, that God is an Atheist? 

Dee

@TKDB

God admits he’s an atheist in his own words as he doesn’t recognize other gods , do you have a Bible?

What do you need a science book for when your god admits it in his own words?

You can run away again now and attempt formulating another answer that cannot  hide the fact you and your god are atheists 

The Bible says that the one true God is the sovereign, self-existent Creator of the universe (Isaiah 42:5; Ephesians 1:11). He is spirit (John 4:24), He is eternal (Psalm 90:2), and He is personal (Deuteronomy 34:10). The one true God possesses all knowledge (Isaiah 46:10) and all power (Matthew 19:26), is present in all places (Psalm 139:7–10), and is unchanging (James 1:17). There are many false gods—Hinduism alone supposedly recognizes as many as 330 million gods—but none of them possess the attributes of the one true God.

TKDB

@Dee

Here is your perception:

"God admits he’s an atheist in his own words as he doesn’t recognize other gods , do you have a Bible?"

"What do you need a science book for when your god admits it in his own words?"

"You can run away again now and attempt formulating another answer that cannot  hide the fact you and your god are atheists."

"The Bible says that the one true God is the sovereign, self-existent Creator of the universe (Isaiah 42:5; Ephesians 1:11). He is spirit (John 4:24), He is eternal (Psalm 90:2), and He is personal (Deuteronomy 34:10). The one true God possesses all knowledge (Isaiah 46:10) and all power (Matthew 19:26), is present in all places (Psalm 139:7–10), and is unchanging (James 1:17). There are many false gods—Hinduism alone supposedly recognizes as many as 330 million gods—but none of them possess the attributes of the one true God."

@ZeusAres42
@Dee

I'm asking to see a Religious book that can substantiate, that God is an Atheist?

Or a Science book, or any other Published Material in general that can substantiate that God is an Atheist, and the Author of that book? 


@ZeusAres42

Here's your perception:


"Try to read my post exactly as it is rather than trying to guess I mean something else. It means exactly what it says. As also outlined by this site debateisland.com there is a category for science and a category for religion. Please use them.  Science is a vast subject with multiple subsets with millions of different scientists across the globe all doing things science-related which have absolutely nothing to do with religion or God. Science is not concerned one little bit about religion, whether God exists or who he was; that is not the job of science.  Plus, there are millions of scientists across the globe, some of them Muslim, Some Christians, Some Jews, Some Agnostic, Some Atheist, Some Apatheist, etc. And just as these scientists are able to keep their religious beliefs or non-religious beliefs separate from their scientific jobs could you please have the courtesy to keep relevant discussions in the relevant sections."


@RickeyD

You're educated on the Bible.

Please, what fair, and equal light, can you share with this conversation, in regards to God being an Atheist?

Where in the Bible, does God maybe express this notion of he, being an Atheist? 

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

I created this forum, therefore you're off topic.

And I have asked for anyone from the Public, to provide a real world Science book, and the Author of that same Science book, that can provide real world evidence, to support the notion, that God is an Atheist? 

I appreciate you have created this debate thread. However, this section you're on is for religious discussions. Not Science discussions. Please keep discussions in their relevant sections. Thank you.

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

@Dee

Here is your perception:

"God admits he’s an atheist in his own words as he doesn’t recognize other gods , do you have a Bible?"

"What do you need a science book for when your god admits it in his own words?"

"You can run away again now and attempt formulating another answer that cannot  hide the fact you and your god are atheists."

"The Bible says that the one true God is the sovereign, self-existent Creator of the universe (Isaiah 42:5; Ephesians 1:11). He is spirit (John 4:24), He is eternal (Psalm 90:2), and He is personal (Deuteronomy 34:10). The one true God possesses all knowledge (Isaiah 46:10) and all power (Matthew 19:26), is present in all places (Psalm 139:7–10), and is unchanging (James 1:17). There are many false gods—Hinduism alone supposedly recognizes as many as 330 million gods—but none of them possess the attributes of the one true God."

@ZeusAres42
@Dee

I'm asking to see a Religious book that can substantiate, that God is an Atheist?

Or a Science book, or any other Published Material in general that can substantiate that God is an Atheist, and the Author of that book? 


@ZeusAres42

Here's your perception:


"Try to read my post exactly as it is rather than trying to guess I mean something else. It means exactly what it says. As also outlined by this site debateisland.com there is a category for science and a category for religion. Please use them.  Science is a vast subject with multiple subsets with millions of different scientists across the globe all doing things science-related which have absolutely nothing to do with religion or God. Science is not concerned one little bit about religion, whether God exists or who he was; that is not the job of science.  Plus, there are millions of scientists across the globe, some of them Muslim, Some Christians, Some Jews, Some Agnostic, Some Atheist, Some Apatheist, etc. And just as these scientists are able to keep their religious beliefs or non-religious beliefs separate from their scientific jobs could you please have the courtesy to keep relevant discussions in the relevant sections."


@RickeyD

You're educated on the Bible.

Please, what fair, and equal light, can you share with this conversation, in regards to God being an Atheist?

Where in the Bible, does God maybe express this notion of he, being an Atheist? 

As for you wanting a religious book where God can only be inferred to as An Atheist can be found in the Bible. The following passages should ideally help people with this concept

1. Deuteronomy 4:35,39 — Unto thee it was shown, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

2. Deuteronomy 6:4 — Hear, O Israel: The LORD thy God is one LORD. [Note in Mark 12:28-34 how Jesus and a Jewish scribe he encountered understood this text.]

3. Deuteronomy32:39 — See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

4. 2 Samuel 7:22 — Wherefore thou art great, O LORD God; for there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

5. 1 Kings 8:60 — That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.

6. 2 KINGS 5:15 — And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel; now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.

7. 2 Kings 19:15 — And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth. 8. 1 Chronicles 17:20 — O LORD, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

9. Nehemiah 9:6 — Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou has made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.

10. Psalm 18:31 — For who is God save the LORD? or who is a rock save our God?

11. Psalm 86:10 — For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone.

12. Isaiah 37:16,20 — O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou has made heaven and earth. (20) Now therefore, O LORD our God, save us from his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art the LORD, even thou only.

13. Isaiah43:10,11 — Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he:before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior.

14. Isaiah44:6,8 — Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.Fear ye not, neither be afraid; have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

15. Isaiah 45:21 — Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time: who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me.

16. Isaiah 46:9 — For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me.

17. Hosea 13:4 — Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me; for there is no savior beside me.

18. Joel 2:27 — And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.

19. Zechariah 14:9 — And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

20. Mark 12:29-34 —And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbor as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.

21. John 17:3 — And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

22. Romans 3:30 — Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

23. 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 — As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, andthat there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

24. Galatians 3:20 — Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

25. Ephesians 4:6 — One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. 26. 1 Timothy 1:17 — Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen. 27. 1 Timothy 2:5 — For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. 28. James 2:19 — Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

http://mit.irr.org/28-biblical-passages-which-explicitly-teach-there-only-one-god

Nowhere in the Bible does God say he believes or talks of a higher power than himself. Therefore he is not a Theist as a Theist is someone that believes in a higher power than themselves. I thought you being a Christian @TKDB should know this already.

Dee

@TKDB


***** I'm asking to see a Religious book that can substantiate, that God is an Atheist?

I just gave you one you it’s called the Bible ......Christians it’s rumored say it’s the word of god  

** *Or a Science book, or any other Published Material in general that can substantiate that God is an Atheist, and the Author of that book? 

Again try the Bible especially the verses I just gave you but again your deflection is hilarious 

TKDB

@ZeusAres42

Do you maybe have an issue with this conversation topic?

This is in the Science section.

"Who created Science? God, or Humanity?"

https://www.age-of-the-sage.org/richard_dawkins/science_vs_religion_quotes.html

This is a quotation from Richard Dawkins: 

"Richard Dawkins, in bringing his ten-minute long presentation to an close, summed up his Religion vs Science argument in a few high-flown sentences, describing religion as:-  "

"a cop-out: a betrayal of the intellect, a betrayal of all that's best about what makes us human, a phony substitute for an explanation, which seems to answer the question until you examine it and realize that it does no such thing.
Religion in science is not just redundant and irrelevant, its an active and pernicious charlatan. It peddles false explanations, or at least pseudo-explanations, where real explanations could have been offered, and will be offered. Pseudo-explanations that get in the way of the enterprise of discovering real explanations."

"As the centuries go by religion has less and less room to exist and perform its obscurantist interference with the search for truth.
In the 21st century its high time, finally, to send it packing".  "


Is Mr. Dawkins, maybe blurring the lines when it comes to the two separate conversation of God, Religion, and Science, itself? 

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

Do you maybe have an issue with this conversation topic?

This is in the Science section.

"Who created Science? God, or Humanity?"

https://www.age-of-the-sage.org/richard_dawkins/science_vs_religion_quotes.html

This is a quotation from Richard Dawkins: 

"Richard Dawkins, in bringing his ten-minute long presentation to an close, summed up his Religion vs Science argument in a few high-flown sentences, describing religion as:-  "

"a cop-out: a betrayal of the intellect, a betrayal of all that's best about what makes us human, a phony substitute for an explanation, which seems to answer the question until you examine it and realize that it does no such thing.
Religion in science is not just redundant and irrelevant, its an active and pernicious charlatan. It peddles false explanations, or at least pseudo-explanations, where real explanations could have been offered, and will be offered. Pseudo-explanations that get in the way of the enterprise of discovering real explanations."

"As the centuries go by religion has less and less room to exist and perform its obscurantist interference with the search for truth.
In the 21st century its high time, finally, to send it packing".  "


Is Mr. Dawkins, maybe blurring the lines when it comes to the two separate conversation of God, Religion, and Science, itself? 

"Science vs religion" belongs in either the Philosophy or General Discussion section. Evolutionary Biologist Richard Dawkings does not and should not bring religion into biological discussions. Likewise, William Lane Craig does not and should not bring climate change science into religious discussions.

ZeusAres42

@TKDB

Anyway, your question where can God be found to be an Atheist has already been answered. It's in the Bible. Scroll up for the passages.

Dee

@TKDB


You’re of topic ....again ......What are you  against Dawkins after all you like him are an atheist........

TKDB

@ZeusAres42

Where is your evidence, that explicitly explains, that God is an Atheist, according your perception?

"1. Deuteronomy 4:35,39 — Unto thee it was shown, that thou mightiest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

2. Deuteronomy 6:4 — Hear, O Israel: The LORD thy God is one LORD. [Note in Mark 12:28-34 how Jesus and a Jewish scribe he encountered understood this text.]

3. Deuteronomy32:39 — See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

4. 2 Samuel 7:22 — Wherefore thou art great, O LORD God; for there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

5. 1 Kings 8:60 — That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.

6. 2 KINGS 5:15 — And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel; now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.

7. 2 Kings 19:15 — And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth. 8. 1 Chronicles 17:20 — O LORD, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

9. Nehemiah 9:6 — Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou has made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.

10. Psalm 18:31 — For who is God save the LORD? or who is a rock save our God?

11. Psalm 86:10 — For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone.

12. Isaiah 37:16,20 — O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou has made heaven and earth. (20) Now therefore, O LORD our God, save us from his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art the LORD, even thou only.

13. Isaiah43:10,11 — Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he:before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior.

14. Isaiah44:6,8 — Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.Fear ye not, neither be afraid; have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

15. Isaiah 45:21 — Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time: who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me.

16. Isaiah 46:9 — For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me.

17. Hosea 13:4 — Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me; for there is no savior beside me.

18. Joel 2:27 — And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.

19. Zechariah 14:9 — And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

20. Mark 12:29-34 —And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbor as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.

21. John 17:3 — And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

22. Romans 3:30 — Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

23. 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 — As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, andthat there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

24. Galatians 3:20 — Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

25. Ephesians 4:6 — One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. 26. 1 Timothy 1:17 — Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen. 27. 1 Timothy 2:5 — For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. 28. James 2:19 — Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

http://mit.irr.org/28-biblical-passages-which-explicitly-teach-there-only-one-god "

@ZeusAres42, where is your evidence? 

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

ZeusAres42

Where is your evidence, that explicitly explains, that God is an Atheist, according your perception?

"1. Deuteronomy 4:35,39 — Unto thee it was shown, that thou mightiest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

2. Deuteronomy 6:4 — Hear, O Israel: The LORD thy God is one LORD. [Note in Mark 12:28-34 how Jesus and a Jewish scribe he encountered understood this text.]

3. Deuteronomy32:39 — See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

4. 2 Samuel 7:22 — Wherefore thou art great, O LORD God; for there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

5. 1 Kings 8:60 — That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.

6. 2 KINGS 5:15 — And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel; now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.

7. 2 Kings 19:15 — And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth. 8. 1 Chronicles 17:20 — O LORD, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

9. Nehemiah 9:6 — Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou has made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.

10. Psalm 18:31 — For who is God save the LORD? or who is a rock save our God?

11. Psalm 86:10 — For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone.

12. Isaiah 37:16,20 — O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou has made heaven and earth. (20) Now therefore, O LORD our God, save us from his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art the LORD, even thou only.

13. Isaiah43:10,11 — Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he:before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior.

14. Isaiah44:6,8 — Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.Fear ye not, neither be afraid; have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

15. Isaiah 45:21 — Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time: who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me.

16. Isaiah 46:9 — For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me.

17. Hosea 13:4 — Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me; for there is no savior beside me.

18. Joel 2:27 — And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.

19. Zechariah 14:9 — And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

20. Mark 12:29-34 —And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbor as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.

21. John 17:3 — And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

22. Romans 3:30 — Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

23. 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 — As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, andthat there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

24. Galatians 3:20 — Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

25. Ephesians 4:6 — One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. 26. 1 Timothy 1:17 — Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen. 27. 1 Timothy 2:5 — For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. 28. James 2:19 — Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

http://mit.irr.org/28-biblical-passages-which-explicitly-teach-there-only-one-god "

ZeusAres42, where is your evidence? 

Where is your evidence that God is a Theist according to your perception? Where in the Bible and those passages that you quoted from me does God say he believes in another higher power than himself?

FYI, I'm going by the premises set by the religious scriptures as well as the premises set by you. It's you're perception I'm working off. But by all means, continue to argue with yourself. I guess that way you can never lose really, at least according to your own perception right?

TKDB

@ZeusAres42

If you have an issue with me, please take it up with Aarong?

And present your off topic perception to him, at the same time?

"Where is your evidence that God is a Theist according to your perception? Where in the Bible and those passages that you quoted from me does God say he believes in another higher power than himself?"

"FYI, I'm going by the premises set by the religious scriptures as well as the premises set by you. It's you're perception I'm working off. But by all means, continue to argue with yourself. I guess that way you can never lose really, at least according to your own perception right?"

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

If you have an issue with me, please take it up with Aarong?

And present your off topic perception to him, at the same time?

"Where is your evidence that God is a Theist according to your perception? Where in the Bible and those passages that you quoted from me does God say he believes in another higher power than himself?"

"FYI, I'm going by the premises set by the religious scriptures as well as the premises set by you. It's you're perception I'm working off. But by all means, continue to argue with yourself. I guess that way you can never lose really, at least according to your own perception right?"

I don't have an issue with you or I would have done that already. Also, my answer was a reply to your question. You're asking me stuff relative to theism and atheism and I answered relative to theism and atheism. So if my answers are off-topic then perhaps you shouldn't have asked the off-topic question in the first place?