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The Jews were right about Jesus Christ?

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Now, there are two versions of Jesus Christ that I find the most plausible and that is:
  1. He never existed at all.
  2. He did actually exist as king of the Jews and was a teacher, but was never the Messiah.  
My reasoning for number one is that the story of Jesus Christ wasn't even written until several decades after Jesus's death. Secondly, we have to take into account that this was a time so unlike today. This was a time when there was a big lack of technology, communication, proper research methods, etc. Another thing we need to take into consideration is that this was a time when religious authority was very prevalent and probably would have taken precedence above all else regardless of any evidence, reasoning, truth, etc to the contrary. Also, people who may have had other ideas would have feared execution from religious authority. Yet, despite all that, there is a general consensus among theological scholars that Jesus Christ did exist despite the lack of any substantive evidence.

As for number two, my reasoning for that is because it is at least plausible. It is very plausible that Jesus Christ did exist as a person but he was never the messiah. And this is what most Jews believe.

Was Jesus the Messiah?

The question “was Jesus the messiah?” requires a prior question: “What is the definition of messiah?” The Prophets (Nevi’im), who wrote hundreds of years before Jesus’ birth, envisioned a messianic age as as a period of universal peace, in which war and hunger are eradicated, and humanity accepts God’s sovereignty. By the first century, the view developed that the messianic age would witness a general resurrection of the dead, the in-gathering of all the Jews, including the 10 lost tribes, to the land of Israel, a final judgment and universal peace. Some Jews expected the messiah to be a descendant of King David (based on an interpretation of God’s promise to David in 2 Samuel 7 of an eternal kingdom). The Dead Sea Scrolls speak of two messiahs: one a military leader and the other a priest. Still other Jews expected the prophet Elijah, or the angel Michael, or Enoch, or any number of other figures to usher in the messianic age.
Stories in the Gospels about Jesus healing the sick, raising the dead, and proclaiming the imminence of the kingdom of heaven suggest that his followers regarded him as appointed by God to bring about the messianic age.https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/what-do-jews-believe-about-jesus/
Now, there is another religious movement called "Messianic Jews" but most of the Jewish community do accept these people as Jewish as the concept of "Messianic Jews" is incompatible with Judaism.

What About Jews for Jesus?

Jews for Jesus is one branch of a wider movement called Messianic Jews. Members of this movement are not accepted as Jewish by the broader Jewish community, even though some adherents may have been born Jewish and their ritual life includes Jewish practices. While an individual Jew could accept Jesus as the messiah and technically remain Jewish — rejection of any core Jewish belief or practice does not negate one’s Jewishness — the beliefs of messianic Jews are theologically incompatible with Judaism.https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/what-do-jews-believe-about-jesus/
Nonetheless, I guess it could be said to be a nice story about Jesus Christ; about a nice charismatic leader with high moral standards that also happened to be the King of the Jews at the time.


References and further reading:
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/josephus-flavius/
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/talmud-101/
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/eastern-european-jews-christmas/






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