Christians - Conservatives - President Trump and Abortion and a woman's uterus?

smoothie

I don't care about your Trump fan mail it does not deserve an entirely new debate when you literally posted it already in other forums multiple times

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YeshuaBought

The compassion of prolife conservatives, stops at birth.

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; How can a Christian advocate for the murder of God's children?  Why do you think it's a Christian's responsibility to care for other people's children subsequent to birth?  Yes, Christians care about the baby in the womb and there are facilities and programs in place to care for the "unwanted" child subsequent to birth but you are an oxymoron in the flesh. You insist you love God yet you don't care about His children and advocate for their murder...you insist you love God but you don't do what God commands and live in sexual immorality. I don't understand how you believe you are God's child and have a saving relationship with Him?

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ; How can a Christian advocate for the murder of God's children?  Why do you think it's a Christian's responsibility to care for other people's children subsequent to birth?  Yes, Christians care about the baby in the womb and there are facilities and programs in place to care for the "unwanted" child subsequent to birth but you are an oxymoron in the flesh. You insist you love God yet you don't care about His children and advocate for their murder...you insist you love God but you don't do what God commands and live in sexual immorality. I don't understand how you believe you are God's child and have a saving relationship with Him?

No conservatives don't care about born people. If they did, they would agree that healthcare is a human right. i will not discuss abortion on this debate specifically, but I will discuss the fact that conservatives are not prolife. If you want to prove that you are prolife, you would agree that healthcare is a right. I have the same right to live, as a fetus allegedly does, you hypocrite.

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; No one is responsible for your healthcare but YOU...I do not owe you healthcare but I do pay taxes that provide for the most needy through medicaid and medicare. I'll wager that you'll find some of the largest and most well funded charities for children, foster care, family planning, are found in Christianity and funded by Churches around the Globe.  Supporting the life of a child in the womb and standing against the murder of that child IS "prolife" and prolife has NOTHING to with universal socialistic healthcare.

Now that you've attempted to obfuscate and shift the burden, explain how you can suggest you're a Christian and advocate for the murder of God's children in the womb.

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ; No one is responsible for your healthcare but YOU...I do not owe you healthcare but I do pay taxes that provide for the most needy through medicaid and medicare. I'll wager that you'll find some of the largest and most well funded charities for children, foster care, family planning, are found in Christianity and funded by Churches around the Globe.  Supporting the life of a child in the womb and standing against the murder of that child IS "prolife" and prolife has NOTHING to with universal socialistic healthcare.

Now that you've attempted to obfuscate and shift the burden, explain how you can suggest you're a Christian and advocate for the murder of God's children in the womb.

How Christian of you, how prolife of you. I have the absolute right to have healthcare, because I have no committed a capital crime. This is my body, I have the same right to live, as you say the fetus does. if you disagree, you are not prolife, but you are a hypocrite. I will never agree with you, so why do you even try? ****ing hypocrite. if you don't believe healthcare is a right, at least have the ****ing courtesy to fight for assisted suicide.

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; If you desire healthcare...go to work and pay for it. I pay between 800-900 hundred dollars a month for healthcare for my wife and I. I worked 31-yrs paying for our healthcare and now pay excessively for same in retirement. I don't owe you healthcare...no one does. That has NOTHING to do with being prolife.  Now stop obfuscating and explain how a supposed "Christian" can advocate/support the murder of God's children. Explain yourself!

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ; If you desire healthcare...go to work and pay for it. I pay between 800-900 hundred dollars a month for healthcare for my wife and I. I worked 31-yrs paying for our healthcare and now pay excessively for same in retirement. I don't owe you healthcare...no one does. That has NOTHING to do with being prolife.  Now stop obfuscating and explain how a supposed "Christian" can advocate/support the murder of God's children. Explain yourself!

This is my body. I have the same right to live, as you say the fetus does. If you disagree, you are not prolife, you are profetus. I will never change my mind, so why do you bother, proliar hypocrite?

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; It is NOT your body, your body belongs to God and you are NOT free to do whatever you desire with the body given you by God. You do not have the right to murder others with that body. You don't have the right to murder your body. You don't have the right to ingest illegal narcotics into your body. You don't have the right to assault others in that body. You are NOT the god of your body...your body belongs to God.

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ; It is NOT your body, your body belongs to God and you are NOT free to do whatever you desire with the body given you by God. You do not have the right to murder others with that body. You don't have the right to murder your body. You don't have the right to ingest illegal narcotics into your body. You don't have the right to assault others in that body. You are NOT the god of your body...your body belongs to God.

Yes it is, my body. You are prorape, if you say otherwise. You don't have the right to tell a rape survivor, that it is not their body. if you disagree, you are prorape. I have the right to be treated with empathy, and the right to live, just as the fetus, has the alleged right to live. Rape culture is when bodily choice, is not legally protected. 

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; God the Holy Spirit has told you that you are not your own...do you also call the Holy Spirit a . Now explain how a Christian can advocate for the murder of God's children. Stop obfuscating and answer the question, please? Stop with the crybaby rape culture nonsense and tell me how you, a purported Christian, can advocate for the murder of babies?

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ; God the Holy Spirit has told you that you are not your own...do you also call the Holy Spirit a . Now explain how a Christian can advocate for the murder of God's children. Stop obfuscating and answer the question, please? Stop with the crybaby rape culture nonsense and tell me how you, a purported Christian, can advocate for the murder of babies?

You are prorape, if you deny my right to my body.

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ;  Answer the question... How can one love God and advocate for the mutilation of His children?

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ;  Answer the question... How can one love God and advocate for the mutilation of His children?

I don't have to answer the question, and I never will. I spoke about healthcare being a right, and I stand by my statement. if you were prolife, you would agree with me.

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; You're lack courage and truth.

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ; You're lack courage and truth.

Wonderful, now address what I said, or admit to trolling, proliar.

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; I have and you won't answer...because you have no answer. You cannot love God and advocate for the mutilation of His children. I have no obligation to pay for your healthcare...

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ; I have and you won't answer...because you have no answer. You cannot love God and advocate for the mutilation of His children. I have no obligation to pay for your healthcare...

You have not addressed the fact that healthcare is a human right, and failed to prove you are prolife. If you truly were a prolife Christian, you would care that people are dying, because they can't afford to pay for healthcare. You are not a Christian, if you don't care, now address, my ****ing staement.

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; Healthcare is NOT a human right. We all die...and we have a responsibility to ours self to take care of our self and work and provide for our families and pay for our healthcare and NOT depend on others to work and pay for us.

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ; Healthcare is NOT a human right. We all die...and we have a responsibility to ours self to take care of our self and work and provide for our families and pay for our healthcare and NOT depend on others to work and pay for us.

I have the right to live.

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; So does the baby in the womb. "checkmate"

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ; So does the baby in the womb. "checkmate"

I will not discuss abortion, but I will discuss healthcare rights. If you were truly a Christian, you would care that people are dying without healthcare. You are not a Christian, you don't care about other people, you only care about money, like most conservatives. What did Jesus say about serving God, and money? Oh yeah, run that!

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; You cannot love God and advocate for the mutilation of His children.

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ; You cannot love God and advocate for the mutilation of His children.

Interesting, now address what I said. Either you support healthcare as a human right, or you are not obeying Jesus.

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; Prove that healthcare is a civil right and nothing more than a Bernie or Elizabeth talking point.

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ; Prove that healthcare is a civil right and nothing more than a Bernie or Elizabeth talking point.

I don't have to prove my right to live, i only have to excercize it. If healthcare is not my right, I have the right to kill myself. Everyone has the right, to not be miserable. You are not a Christian, if you don't care about human suffering. I honestly wish I was dead sometimes, because my fellow Christians are so hypocritical. They just don't care about human suffering, and so far, from Jesus. I don't trust Christians, and it will be a long time, before I do. i love Christ, but Christians, can **** themselves, for being so cruel, now sit on that, hypocrite Trump worshipper.

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ;  Burden shifting and lying won't win you the debate. You cannot justify mutilating God's babies and you cannot prove that I have an obligation under the US Constitution to provide you healthcare. You cannot be a Christian, love God, and advocate for the slaughter of babies.

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ;  Burden shifting and lying won't win you the debate. You cannot justify mutilating God's babies and you cannot prove that I have an obligation under the US Constitution to provide you healthcare. You cannot be a Christian, love God, and advocate for the slaughter of babies.

I will not discuss abortion, on this debate, but I will state the fact that healthcare is a right. If you were truly a Christian, you would agree, because Jesus said to do unto others. People who disagree with the fact that healthcare is a right, are the moral equivalent of a rapist. Bodily choice is a human right, and born people have the right to live. No, you are not a Christian, because you serve money, and not God.

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; You are wrong and lack the wisdom to realize it. You cannot respond as to how you, a supposed Christian, can say you love God and in the same breath advocate for the slaughter of God's children in the womb. You cannot prove that anyone under the rule of law and living in obedience to our Constitutional Republic has an obligation to provide you healthcare. I am obligated to assist in the general welfare but I am not obligated to pay for your healthcare, especially if you are an able-bodied man or woman with the ability to work. You need to check your positioning with God and with God's words...you cannot be a Christian and engage in lesbianism and advocate for the mutilation of God's children.

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ; You are wrong and lack the wisdom to realize it. You cannot respond as to how you, a supposed Christian, can say you love God and in the same breath advocate for the slaughter of God's children in the womb. You cannot prove that anyone under the rule of law and living in obedience to our Constitutional Republic has an obligation to provide you healthcare. I am obligated to assist in the general welfare but I am not obligated to pay for your healthcare, especially if you are an able-bodied man or woman with the ability to work. You need to check your positioning with God and with God's words...you cannot be a Christian and engage in lesbianism and advocate for the mutilation of God's children.

I don't have to discuss abortion on this debate, because it is off topic, but I will discuss my healthcare rights. If you don't care about human suffering, you are not a Christian, and you don't have the right to call yourself one, end of story.

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; You "can't" discuss abortion because you're wrong...you advocate for murder and you know this is contrary to God's Commandment and His will. You can't discuss healthcare because you cannot substantiate your "claim" that healthcare is a civil or universal "right." You are wrong on both accounts. If anyone is living contrary to God's will, it's your lesbianism-abortion advocacy-socialism...please show at least a modicum of discernment!

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ; You "can't" discuss abortion because you're wrong...you advocate for murder and you know this is contrary to God's Commandment and His will. You can't discuss healthcare because you cannot substantiate your "claim" that healthcare is a civil or universal "right." You are wrong on both accounts. If anyone is living contrary to God's will, it's your lesbianism-abortion advocacy-socialism...please show at least a modicum of discernment!

I don't have to discuss abortion, but i will discuss healthcare rights. You are not a Christian, if you don't care about human suffering, and you need to learn, that not everyone agrees with you. Freedom of thought, is an absolute human right.

MayCaesar

@RickeyD

Looking at this picture makes me nauseous. If I were a woman and you showed me this picture and said, "This is the creature that is inside you", I would probably get a flashback to the first time I saw the Xenomorph birth scene in the original Alien movie, and subsequently drive to the nearest abortion clinic and ask the doctor to remove this creature from inside me, even if I had not originally planned to do that!

If you want to "checkmate" people, showing them a repulsive picture like this is not the best move you can make.

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; Repeating your false statements as if mentally ill does not negate the fact that you're wrong and that abortion is murder and no one owes you healthcare. You're done, you're wrong, you cannot respond with answers...you simply repeat yourself...this is not stable behavior.

YeshuaBought

MayCaesar said:

@RickeyD

Looking at this picture makes me nauseous. If I were a woman and you showed me this picture and said, "This is the creature that is inside you", I would probably get a flashback to the first time I saw the Xenomorph birth scene in the original Alien movie, and subsequently drive to the nearest abortion clinic and ask the doctor to remove this creature from inside me, even if I had not originally planned to do that!

If you want to "checkmate" people, showing them a repulsive picture like this is not the best move you can make.

Thank you.

RickeyD

@MayCaesar ; That picture represents what you support as a pro-choice advocate....it's your "choice." I have much to say but the censorship on this forum will not permit it.

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@MayCaesar ; That picture represents what you support as a pro-choice advocate....it's your "choice." I have much to say but the censorship on this forum will not permit it.

This site, got tired of your abuse. Deal with it, sucker.

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ;  The Truth is not abuse...it's just Truth...you're too guilty and weak to confront the Truth.

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ;  The Truth is not abuse...it's just Truth...you're too guilty and weak to confront the Truth.

I will not discuss abortion, because I don't have to, but I will discuss my right to have healthcare. If you were a caring Christian, you would agree, prove me wrong.

smoothie

RickeyD said:

I have much to say but the censorship on this forum will not permit it.

Then leave. Nobody would miss you

YeshuaBought

smoothie said:

RickeyD said:

I have much to say but the censorship on this forum will not permit it.

Then leave. Nobody would miss you

Thank you.

RickeyD

@smoothie ; Mind you own business, atheist.

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@smoothie ; Mind you own business, atheist.

What you say in public, is everyone's business, so behave like an actual Christian.

smoothie

RickeyD said:

@smoothie ; Mind you own business, atheist.

This is a public forum, christian.

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; Again, you're repeating yourself as if in a psyche ward when you've already lost the debate...once again...you cannot justify slaughtering babies in the womb and you cannot substantiate your "claim" that I owe you healthcare and you cannot justify or rationalize your lesbianism and in the same breath suggest you love God.

YeshuaBought

smoothie said:

RickeyD said:

@smoothie ; Mind you own business, atheist.

This is a public forum, christian.

I apologize, for his behavior.

RickeyD

@smoothie ; So then, I'll remain...call me Mr. Public.

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ; Again, you're repeating yourself as if in a psyche ward when you've already lost the debate...once again...you cannot justify slaughtering babies in the womb and you cannot substantiate your "claim" that I owe you healthcare and you cannot justify or rationalize your lesbianism and in the same breath suggest you love God.

How Christian of you. You owe me an apology, for not caring about my suffering, you C***!

RickeyD

@YeshuaBought ; You should apologize for your own behavior...your advocacy for mutilating babies in the womb; your advocacy for lesbianism; your advocacy for socialism. You should be apologetic before God and man.

YeshuaBought

RickeyD said:

@YeshuaBought ; You should apologize for your own behavior...your advocacy for mutilating babies in the womb; your advocacy for lesbianism; your advocacy for socialism. You should be apologetic before God and man.

I have the same right to live, as YOU say the fetus does. if you don't agree, you are not a Christian.