Do you like watching a family program with your kids, & having an LGBT commercial come on?

MayCaesar

I have never seen an LGBT commercial in my life. What is it like?

Regardless, there is plenty of commercials on TV that I dislike. I dislike the female cosmetics commercials, because they have no relevance to me. So what? You do not own all the media in the world and do not get to tell them what commercials to run. If you dislike commercials running on one TV channel, switch to a different TV channel. And if you dislike commercials running on all channels, then do what I did: throw your TV box out and use Internet services instead that do not have any commercials on them.

Also, what is wrong with showing LGBT content to children? Are children living in a different world than adults? How about children adopted by LGBT couples, does it apply to them also?
Seems like you have some problem with LGBT stuff. Well, sorry, sweetie, but you are just one person out of ~330 millions in this country. If you dislike something, start your own TV channel and run any commercials there you want - and show them to your children.

AlofRI

My youngest is 49 years old, but, I would never block them from seeing real life. They have never been told what to believe in, who to love or what they HAD to listen to. Just right from wrong and to have feelings for others. One is "Christian", one is Catholic, two are non-religious, NONE are against "gays" two have gay friends …. the Catholic and a non-religious one, and my wife and I like all their friends. No one in our family cares who somebody else loves. We would care if they loved no one, or just who they were told they could love. I'm sure it will stay that way even if the evangelicals take over the country and write a new Constitution based on Biblical myth …. as they are trying to do.

smoothie

So if your kid saw a Trump ad would you quiver in terror because of its "political activism"? Doubt it

Commercials are intended to promote things, anything. Usually aimed at a target audience. Many commercials on TV already target children to sell them things. It's no different from politics really. Voting is a free choice and me seeing a pro-life commercial won't "brainwash" me to go vote republican, kids don't even have the right to vote

If you babysit your kid with a TV anyway they deserve to be shown everything you dislike. I saw many political ads as a kid already, telling me to go vote for people like Mitt Romney because he's against gay marriage and then watching people bash gay people on screen when I was 7-12. Am I mad now that this happened? Was I "brainwashed"? No, because I developed my own political views as I grew up to the voting age of 18.

Commercials will never show everything you like, thats just how it is. The people running the commercials always have a choice on what to run and make money doing it. Do you advocate taking the freedom of the press away outlined in the constitution because you are against gay rights? Good luck with that

Happy_Killbot

People still watch TV?

The last time I watched TV was when I was at my grandparents home for Thanksgiving dinner, and all I have to say is that basically all of the commercials bothered me to the point that I can't believe anyone takes any of them seriously. They are all just complete and exist between shows that are in and of themselves mostly nonsense.

That being said, I don't understand why people think that LGBTQ is somehow a conspiracy to turn their kids into monsters or something, they are still people and should be excepted like anyone else.

I also can't understand how anyone could be so blinded that they would defend Trump as stopping power grabbing LGBTQ when he was clearly pro-LGBTQ during his campaign, and only flip-flopped after he was in office. That dirty authoritarian clearly doesn't care either way about LGBTQ, and he certainly doesn't care about personal freedom. If anyone cared about actual US values instead of this alt-right non-sense they would not support Trump. He is a threat to the US democracy.

MayCaesar

@Happy_Killbot

Have not watched TV personally since 2008. There is so much freedom on the Internet: watch whatever you want whenever you want for free, pause when you want to, no commercials, no schedules, nothing.

Television and radio are 20th century. Using them nowadays instead of more modern types of media is like riding a horse cart instead of driving a car. Then, again, some people do that. I have never understood those Amish people...

Happy_Killbot

@MayCaesar Couldn't agree more.

Internet >>> TV.

We_are_accountable

You are such a hypocrite. You would be the first one screaming if those commercials were witnessing a religion to your children!

How would you like watching a family show with your kids, and having the commercials giving your child a message of Christian salvation?

How can you be so utterly brainwashed to all this LGBT hysteria to not understand how parents want to keep their kids from being programmed to believe that Gay sex, transgender disorders, etc. etc. are natural and normal?

Newsflash, we have ratings on programming to protect kids from adult material. Are you that blind to this fact? LGBT subject matter is not something most parents want their children exposed to!

GET REAL!@MayCaesar

We_are_accountable

I'm sure you are the typical Left wing hypocrite. You would be the first one screaming if those commercials were witnessing a religion to your children!

How would you like watching a family show with your kids, and having the commercials giving your child a message of Christian salvation?

How can you be so utterly brainwashed to all this LGBT hysteria to not understand how parents want to keep their kids from being programmed to believe that Gay sex, Transgender disorders, etc. etc. are natural and normal?

Newsflash, we have ratings on programming to protect kids from adult material. Are you that blind to this fact? LGBT subject matter is not something most parents want their children exposed to!

Have some respect for other's beliefs and maybe America could come back together with the common sense intellect to not push controverseal subject matter on other's children. You keep your unnatural sexual orientation beliefs away from our children and we will keep our Christian beliefs away from yours.

STOP THE BIG BROTHER ARROGANCE!@MayCaesar

We_are_accountable

Newsflash, we have ratings on TV programming for a reason. To protect children from adult subject matter.

I realize that to those on the Left, there is nothing wrong with pushing all this LGBT hysteria, but these same people on the  Left were paranoid if their children saw a  nativity scene on public land during holidays. What were you afraid of? HYPOCRITES!

You screamed how parents were offended when their children saw nativity scenes on public land, but we are suppose to be ok with our little impressionable children witnessing Gay marriage, Transgender propaganda etc.

Are you people for real? @Happy_Killbot

Happy_Killbot

@We_are_accountable

Show me where I have screamed about nativity scenes on public land. I have never said that once!

Because you addressed me directly, this is a form of defamation that I don't take to so kindly.

You can't just group everyone together and expect everyone to behave and think exactly the same, that is some tribal non-sense.

Besides this, there is a HUGE difference between public land and privately owned and broadcasted TV programs. If it is acceptable to put a nativity on public lands, then it is acceptable to put satanic symbols or open mockeries of Jesus on public land. These types of things are unconstitutional if they give on religion an advantage over any other, so it is all or nothing, take your pick. Personally, I think it's easier to go with nothing because it is more fair and we can't be taking up space with the infinite potential god, gods, or other mythical beings.

MayCaesar

We_are_accountable said:

I'm sure you are the typical Left wing hypocrite. You would be the first one screaming if those commercials were witnessing a religion to your children!

How would you like watching a family show with your kids, and having the commercials giving your child a message of Christian salvation?

How can you be so utterly brainwashed to all this LGBT hysteria to not understand how parents want to keep their kids from being programmed to believe that Gay sex, Transgender disorders, etc. etc. are natural and normal?

Newsflash, we have ratings on programming to protect kids from adult material. Are you that blind to this fact? LGBT subject matter is not something most parents want their children exposed to!

Have some respect for other's beliefs and maybe America could come back together with the common sense intellect to not push controverseal subject matter on other's children. You keep your unnatural sexual orientation beliefs away from our children and we will keep our Christian beliefs away from yours.

STOP THE BIG BROTHER ARROGANCE!@MayCaesar

Me? Left wing? You must be new on this website.
I have seen multiple religious commercials and could not care less about them. I am not as fragile as to break down over seeing something I do not like on TV. As far as I am concerned, let all commercials be religious; I have always skipped commercials regardless of their content, and would advise to my children to do the same.

If you want to keep your kids from being exposed to certain beliefs, then do not show them the content promoting those beliefs. What exactly is the problem? Do you want to tell all TV companies what to show just to tend to your kids' caprices? What are you teaching your kids anyway if they cannot handle a simple commercial without getting scarred? Teach them critical thinking, not hiding from everything that has a potential to influence them negatively.

Ratings are advisory, not compulsory. If something says that a content is suitable for people of a certain age, it does not necessarily mean that it will be suitable to absolutely all people of that age. It is just an independent assessment.
That said, I do not see anything about the LGBT topic that kids should not see. Then again, I have never thought that there is anything at all that kids should not see... The first time I saw a sexual act was at the age of 4, and that was not on TV, but in front of my eyes - and somehow I survived that. Age ratings are pointless.

I have huge respect for others' beliefs, which is why I am okay with anything being shown on TV, so people can choose the channels that correspond to their beliefs the most. You are the one disrespecting beliefs of those who do not have the same stance on the LGBT topic as you. Just as you have the right to not show the LGBT content to your kids, other parents have the right to show the LGBT content to their. You are not the only person on the planet, and your preferences are nothing special.

If you do not want to show your kids a channel with LGBT content on it, then take your remote controller and press the "next channel" button. How hard is that?

Antoliny

First, I'll answer the question that was asked. I don't like watching LGBT commercials with my family. I don't associate with it. We all have our particular tastes.

If they are trying to sell a product to specific clients in this case LGBT clients, why are they advertising during family programs where parents and children are the main audience? Maybe they are bad professionals? Who knows? If they are not using commercial adds to sell commercial advertisements, then that is a problem.

Are they encouraging political or ideological views instead of products? If this is the case, isn't it fair to say that commercial adds are not the adequate platform to do it. And, I urge people to consider that this is far from being an agreeable or simple topic for adults so why do we force it upon children?

Should parents educate their children or commercials? Or both?

Thank you for sharing your comments. I really appreciate when people share thoughts and help others widen their perspectives in a positive manner.

Cheers to all!

smoothie

We_are_accountable said:

How can you be so utterly brainwashed to all this LGBT hysteria to not understand how parents want to keep their kids from being programmed to believe that Gay sex, Transgender disorders, etc. etc. are natural and normal?

Have some respect for other's beliefs and maybe America could come back together with the common sense intellect to not push controverseal subject matter on other's children. You keep your unnatural sexual orientation beliefs away from our children and we will keep our Christian beliefs away from yours.

we are suppose to be ok with our little impressionable children witnessing Gay marriage, Transgender propaganda etc.

Newsflash, we have ratings on programming to protect kids from adult material.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/36/Appeal-to-Nature

"Normal", "natural" these are terrible arguments to make in this debate.

It is "normal" when the LGBT population is confirmed to be at least 4.5% of the total US population, that's around 14,724,000 people (although many expect near 10% when including non-acting/admitting). You are the one pretending and sheltering children from this fact of life because of your own beliefs. Gay people exist around the entire world and likely in your neighborhood too.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/234863/estimate-lgbt-population-rises.aspx

If you want to shelter them from a fact of life, throw away the T.V, unplug the router, never let them outside, and give them your religious teachings. Advertisements and the world will never cater to what you "believe".

Also, how are these commercials "adult"? Is there gay porn on the screen? By your logic, beauty and beast, sleeping beauty is pornographic and adult

RickeyD

Commercials, sit-coms, featuring LGBTQ are disgusting, insulting, shameful and wrong.

RickeyD

I attempted to respond but the forum "censor" will not permit it.

AmericanFurryBoy

@We_are_accountable
Bruh, most “members” of the LGBT community are just fine. What’s wrong with them? Also, what’s an LGBT Commercial?

piloteer

I am absolutely fine with it. Progress and science are the new God and the old mythological order is going to be forgotten. Nativity scenes need to be outlawed, whether on public or private land. The future is now. 

Happy_Killbot

@We_are_accountable

Can you provide links or videos to any of these commercials?

I have seriously never seen any of them and sound like a lot of others on this forum haven't either. You paint this picture like they are some kind of pornography but I think that if we can see some examples we can make a more reasonable determination of the depravity here.

Otherwise, I can't think of a single reason why this would be a problem, because:

• If you don't like what's on TV you can turn it off
• It is not the right of the viewers to determine what is on TV
• There is nothing wrong with being a member of the LGBTQ community
• Being LGBTQ and on TV isn't a problem in any way I can think of
• There are tons of political ads directed at people all the time, some of them come from Russia and influence elections.
• Political ads directed at children are of little consequence, because children can not vote.

RickeyD

If LGBTQ appears on a commercial or a sitcom or a movie...I will mute the commercial or turn it off; I will no longer watch the sitcom and the movie is discarded. I will not have this immorality in my home and my family exposed to same.

Happy_Killbot

@RickeyD

What are you going to do when one of your grandchildren comes out of the closet?

Are you going to stop loving them, because you love an imaginary being more?

That's really F***ed up don't you think?

Nothing can turn an evil man good, but it only religion can turn a good man evil.

piloteer

@Happy_Killbot

Disagree with me all you want, but see whose name is on the predicted to win board, and whose isn't.  

piloteer

@Happy_Killbot

OK, nevermind now. Disregard my last statement

Happy_Killbot

@piloteer

I mostly disagree with scientism, but even though it is a dangerous delusion on par with religion, I don't really want to talk about that here because it's irrelevant to this debate.

I also don't think that nativities need to be outlawed altogether, because state atheism is just as bad as state religion. I mean, does a nativity really hurt anyone? No, it's just a cute set up of figurines that is totally without consequence. The exception to this would be on public land, but the way I see it there are two options:

Either allow all religions the right to put their beliefs on display or none. Since there are a potentially infinite number of potential religious beliefs and public land is limited, they ought to be disallowed on public land.

piloteer

@Happy_Killbot

I don't actually believe nativity scenes should be outlawed on private land, I just like to say things to anger people. It's sorta my thing you know. Scientism is viewed as anti-religion, however I view the ideals of objective scientific truths to be the fundamental elements of a new religion, not an anti-religion. Viewing scientific thought as a religion can be used as an attempt to legitimize scientific thought, while dually having empathy for other religious beliefs.  

We_are_accountable

So it is ok to offend people in their own homes with LGBT propaganda on commercials of family programming, but Nativity scenes on public land are censored for fear of offending someone?

Are you serious? Talk anout hypocrisy and double standards.

So it's ok to offend parents who do not want their children exposed to LGBT propaganda, but you do not want your children exposed to nativity scenes on public land?

WOW!@piloteer

Happy_Killbot

@We_are_accountable

Removing religious symbols from public land is not about offending anyone, would give you that idea?

It's about fairness, because If someone is allowed to do that, then anyone else is allowed to put up their own religious symbols, and if they happen to be in a sex cult then there would be nothing anyone could do to stop it, it's just easier to say no to everyone than yes to everyone.

We_are_accountable

Activist LGBT groups forced the Hallmark channel to show a Lesbian wedding commercial during a hallmark family movie. Hypocrites have no problem censoring nativity scenes from public land for the fear of offending someone, but when it comes to LGBT propaganda being pushed into our own homes on family programming, we are not supposed to be offended when our children see these things?

GET REAL! Why are those on the Left the only ones allowed to get offended?

Do you think we care if you are not offended by your children seeing Gay weddings? Most parents want to protect their children from being conditioned by activists pushing unnatural sexual orientations as normal.@piloteer @Happy_Killbot @AmericanFurryBoy

MayCaesar

@We_are_accountable ;

If you get offended by a TV commercial... You really need to grow up then.

Everyone is allowed to get offended, but being offended does not give anyone a license to decide what people should be able to do. If you get offended by what you see on TV and cannot, for some reason, turn TV off, then you can go cry in a corner - that will make you feel better.

Your entire narrative here is "I do not want to see X content on TV, so that content should not be there". Sorry, but you are just one customer. Do not want X content - do not watch X content. What exactly is the problem?

Happy_Killbot

@We_are_accountable
Why are you so offended by LGBTQ?

I don't see people on "the left" get offended nearly as much as "the right" and frankly, I distance myself from both groups and handle things issue by issue, often creating my own unique views and opinions because I am an individual, and I refuse to bow to any party or organization.

Alt-right, alt facts. Homosexuality is perfectly natural, we see it in animals, we see it in humans, and there is nothing wrong with it unless you have been indoctrinated to believe so because of some absurd ancient traditions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

I mean, can you really think of anything that is actually wrong with homosexuality?

Only one thing comes to mind, and that is that homosexuals don't have kids naturally, thus they don't spread religion as easily, which is the real reason why so many religions condemn it.

That being said, if you put your religion before your country, and your country before your family, then you are probably not a good parent.

We_are_accountable

LOL, what I want is fairness because hypocrites on the Left have no problem censoring Christian commercials from their family programming channels, but want to put their LGBT propaganda on mine!

Why are you so arrogant and want it all your way? Why do you fear your children seeing a nativity scene on public land? Why don't you allow us our freedoms while you go cry in the corner!@Happy_Killbot

We_are_accountable

LOL, what I want is fairness because hypocrites on the Left have no problem censoring Christian commercials from their family programming channels, but want to put their LGBT propaganda on mine!

Why are you so arrogant and want it all your way? Why do you fear your children seeing a nativity scene on public land? Why don't you allow us our freedoms while you go cry in the corner!

Newsflash, no one is saying Gay people should be condemned. What we want is for the radical Left to stop indoctrinating our impressionable children with their secular dogma. IT WORKS BOTH WAYS!
God says homosexuality is a perverson and goes against nature. Just because Jesus did not mention it means nothing. The Bible mentions it many times. Jesus also did not say it was wrong to murder millons of Jews in gas chambers. I guess Hitler could use your logic to say it was ok.@happpy_Killbot

We_are_accountable

LOL, what I want is fairness because hypocrites on the Left have no problem censoring Christian commercials from their family programming channels, but want to put their LGBT propaganda on mine!Why are you so arrogant and want it all your way? Why do you fear your children seeing a nativity scene on public land? Why don't you allow us our freedoms while you go cry in the corner!Newsflash, no one is saying Gay people should be condemned. What we want is for the radical Left to stop indoctrinating our impressionable children with their secular dogma. IT WORKS BOTH WAYS!God says homosexuality is a perverson and goes against nature. Just because Jesus did not mention it means nothing. The Bible mentions it many times. Jesus also did not say it was wrong to murder millons of Jews in gas chambers. I guess Hitler could use your logic to say it was ok.@happpy_Killbot @MayCaesar

MayCaesar

@We_are_accountable

Who wants to put LGBT propaganda on "your" channels? If you own a TV channel, then no content can be put there without your approval, so what is the problem? Just say "no" to such proposals and move on.

My position here is simple: each TV company can put any content they want on their channels, and each customer is free to watch or not to watch any of those channels. I do not remember advocating for censoring Christian commercials; I have no problem with them. Heck, there are entire TV channels dedicated to Christianity, and that is perfectly fine. What is there to fear? A remote control is just a meter away. Do not like the channel - switch it to another one.

You are making an issue out of nothing. I have never understood you religious freaks, so scared of everything and hiding in your churches from the real world. I also have never understood those people on the left you are criticising who get offended by everything. Your mistake here is that you think that you are somehow different from them, while in reality both of you are fragile folks unable to handle the fact that the world does not revolve around your sensitive hearts.

Happy_Killbot

@We_are_accountable

Newsflash, no one is saying Gay people should be condemned.

I GUESS YOU HAVEN'T MET @RickeyD THEN!

https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/60173/#Comment_60173

Homosexuality doesn't go against nature at all, it is a part of nature. Anyone who says otherwise hates the universe. (which is why so many make up a happy place so they can feel better) The truth is that most religions are a rebellion against reality. I wish all the misinformed Christian nationalists would stop lying to everyone based on their most absurd holy book.

Oh, and by the way, Christianity was used to justify the killing of Jews and homosexuals during the holocaust, and at any rate religion FAILED to stop it!
https://academic.oup.com/hgs/article-abstract/3/4/395/758021?redirectedFrom=PDF
Clearly there is no god, if the holocaust could not have been prevented.

We_are_accountable

Ahhhh, now we finally start to see the true tolerance from the Left. You just called me a religious freak for wanting to keep controversial adult subject matter off family programming commercials, so that our children are not programmed by activist groups.

It does not take long to bring out the Left's intolerance towards anyone who goes against their political correct doctrine.@MayCaesar

MayCaesar

@We_are_accountable

I am neither on the left, nor am I tolerant towards authoritarianism.

I called you a religious freak because you are afraid of seeing two girls kissing each other and want to censor it. Has nothing to do with your political views.

MayCaesar

(Double posting.)

AlofRI

piloteer said:

I am absolutely fine with it. Progress and science are the new God and the old mythological order is going to be forgotten. Nativity scenes need to be outlawed, whether on public or private land. The future is now. 

Anyone that knows about me will tell you I'm not a bit religious. However, I DO believe in democracy. What happens on church, synagogue temple or mosque land is up to those who believe in that doctrine … as long as it is not against a constitution OR societal acceptance (IMO).

My information is that the nativity is an imaginary "fairy tale" invented by St Francis of Assisi as a way to explain the birth of Jesus to his "flock" several hundred years after the "fact". I agree with you on the "science thing", but, some people can't face reality without a mythical figure to give them strength. I wouldn't take that away from them. I just think, eventually, everyone will begin to face facts. No harm done IF they keep it on their own property, in their own cult. I can walk by one in a churchyard and think: Isn't that pretty, isn't that peaceful, without getting upset. On a public spot, not so much. I'm willing to give "progress and science" time, but, propaganda, religious or otherwise, not so much.

In answer to the prime question: I've seen few commercials I wouldn't watch with a young family, but, I've watched several Trump rally's …. with the obvious lies and swearing and gestures and un-patriotic actions that I WOULD turn off if my young children were watching. Gay life is a fact of life. I can LIVE with, Trump, not so much! :-(

We_are_accountable

Thank you for seeing the truth of the matter and understanding what is going on. This is indoctrination of our children as well as adults. LGBT issues are very controversial and have no place being aired on family programming.

Christians are not forcing channels to air Pro Christian commericals, and witnessing to children on non religious channels.

I support keeping all groups from pushing their agendas onto our children on family programming, where chidren could be watching. Keep politics off family programming where children can be influenced against the parent's will.@Antoliny

Plaffelvohfen

@We_are_accountable

If you don't like it, either stop watching tv or start your own network... Your medieval tribe is disappearing, I get that it upsets you but there's no place for medieval thinking in the 21st century.

Dee

*****

Do you like watching a family program with your kids, & having an LGBT commercial come on?

There’s a weird button on the remote called OFF apparently it has the ability if pushed to turn the TV OFF maybe you’s will get them in Walton’s mountain real soon ........

We_are_accountable

Medieval thinking? Do you mean like killing viable babies out of pure convenience? That's not ony medieval, it is barbaric!

Why on earth should people who love the Hallmark channel give up on watching their movies just because some insecure LGBT activists want to force everyone to sanction their unnatural sexual orientations as being normal.

I've got a better idea. How about everybody start respecting each other's beliefs and STOP PUSHING CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES ONTO OUR CHILDREN IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND OUR LIVING ROOMS!

Nah, the arrogant Progressives on the Left want to force their dysfunctional beliefs on everyone else.

I have no problems with Gays who do not try to push their orientation, as being normal, on others. I have Gay friends who respect my beliefs and do not try to indoctrinate me.

It's the LGBT activists in the Democrat Party I have a problem with. They respect nothing but their own agendas. They forced every State to allow Gay marriage. The Democrat Party is trying to force every public school to allow so called Transgender boys into our duaghter's sports.

Arrogant Big Brother Left not respecting other's beliefs.@Plaffelvohfen

Happy_Killbot

@We_are_accountable

I still have no idea what commercials you are talking about, which should be easy to find because they are probably on youTube, on account of I still have no idea what ads you are talking about because I don't watch TV.

Why don't you provide any links to these ads? Is it because they aren't offensive and it will make you look weak? (you already do)

I think I have a better idea anyways...

Suppose I spend my own money to find out who your kids are and deliberately target them specifically with LGBTQ ads?

How does that sound? There is nothing that says I can't do this provided I don't break any laws.

If you are going to throw around empty accusations and threats I may feel obligated to make an honest man out of you.

We_are_accountable

Are you for real? It takes literally 5 seconds to google what I am talking about and you will find all kinds of articles about it!

I posted a site the other day, and if you did not see it, find it yourself.

I'm not a and If I said it happened... IT HAPPENDED!

It matters not if you see the controversies over LGBT groups threatening Hallmark channel with lost sponserships, boycotts, etc.

You will ignore it all and support your Big Brother Left.@Happy_Killbot

Happy_Killbot

@We_are_accountable
Why are you being so lazy though... If someone went to a restaurant and the waiter told you that you had to cook the food yourself, you would leave.

I'm being truthful when I say I have no idea what ads you are talking about because I don't watch TV... I'm not calling you a by asking for evidence.

This also doesn't solve the problem of specifics. Suppose there are thousands of such ads but you have only seen or are only talking about a dozen or so, how would I know which you are talking about?

I'm a very evidence oriented kind of guy, because I value empirical truth, which always stems from the data, and never from hearsay.

Please, enlighten us by showing us specifically which ads they are talking about.

smoothie

We_are_accountable said:

I have no problems with Gays who do not try to push their orientation, as being normal, on others. I have Gay friends who respect my beliefs and do not try to indoctrinate me.

It's the LGBT activists in the Democrat Party I have a problem with. They respect nothing but their own agendas. They forced every State to allow Gay marriage.

@We_are_accountable

LOL

<-- see that? it says BANNED

"Your party" made gay marriages literally illegal in states and denied gay people benefits enjoyed by their straight counterparts. How's that for forced beliefs?

You were the ones forcing the belief of such discrimination and literally banned gay marriage for 30.6% of America's population at its lowest point before the ruling.

Both parties have agendas, and you are fulfilling yours by attacking the other and promoting your own agenda. It's basic politics

We_are_accountable said:

I've got a better idea. How about everybody start respecting each other's beliefs and STOP PUSHING CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES ONTO OUR CHILDREN IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND OUR LIVING ROOMS!

Nah, the arrogant Progressives on the Left want to force their dysfunctional beliefs on everyone else

You first, buddy. You wanna advocate for banning all mentions of religion in public schools then? Start with the pledge of allegiance and get back to us

Spoiler alert: everything taught in a public school can be controversial. Try teaching any important history to kids without being controversial; the holocaust, any war, Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., any economic system, any religion, any politics, slavery, etc

You only care when it's a different "belief" than your own. Quit the double-standards.

MayCaesar

@We_are_accountable ;

You have yet to demonstrate that anyone is "forcing" their commercials into any channels. As far as we can tell, the "LGBT commercial" you saw (whatever it is) was freely selected by the TV channel management that liked the offer from the advertiser. How exactly does the "forcing" work; someone shows up with a machine gun at the studio and says, "Show this commercial, or die"?

Nobody is forcing anything. The society has changed, what it wants to see on TV has changed, and hence the TV channels have changed. It is unfortunate for you that all of it has changed not in the direction you like, but such is life. I also do not like a lot of societal developments, but that does not make me throw a fit every time I see a commercial I dislike. You are just being a little baby here, one that needs parents, rather than should be a parent.

Happy_Killbot said:

Why are you being so lazy though... If someone went to a restaurant and the waiter told you that you had to cook the food yourself, you would leave.

Small correction: there are actually restaurants like that, and they are quite popular, especially in Asian countries (China, Korea, Japan)! Here is a short article about it:

https://www.foodabletv.com/blog/2016/3/1/breaking-down-a-trend-cook-it-yourself-restaurants

I also recommend this nice Korean thriller movie, which features a couple of scenes at such a restaurant:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2015315/

Of course, if your plan was to go to a regular restaurant and you happened across a cook-it-yourself one, then you would probably leave.

Happy_Killbot

@MayCaesar

Point taken. I have actually been to one of these types of restaurants, but I think the point I am trying to convey with the analogy is clear:

"Why should I go out of my way to confirm your beliefs?"

The prosecution is not responsible for the defense's argument. If the defense has a point to make, they should be the ones making it, because I can't know what they are saying until they say it.

We_are_accountable

I want you to understand one thing and never forget it ok?

When I speak to the Left being against a community's freedom to display a nativity scene on public grouns, I'm not saying you also support censoring the freedom to display nativity scenes.

I'm saying that those who vote for these Big brother controlling politicians are supporting it with their vote. Are you saying you don't vote for Democrats?
From your posts, I don't believe that for a second!

By the way, I am for the freedom of communties to decide for themselves if they display anything. If the majoirty wanted to display other religious symbols, it would be the voters right to decide for themselves. Not some Big Brother federal Government forcing it's secularocracy on everyone.@Happy_Killbot

piloteer

@We_are_accountable

I never asked hallmark to put anything on their channel, I don't watch that tripe anyway. Nobody  forced hallmark to do anything. It was the decision of the hallmark channel to give into the ideals of activists. Hallmark probably realized they would lose more viewers by not showing the wedding because people would be upset. Ratings are the only valuable thing in this case. Your feelings are not of any value to hallmark, or anybody else, for any reason, and at any time.   

Most parents DO want their children to learn the nature of a diverse society and learning about people who identify as LGBTQ is a part of that. Your feelings about that are also of no value to anybody, for any reason, and at any time.