Your instinct About Coronavirus?

RickeyD

Though the COVID-19 virus strain, presently interpreted as a “pandemic” by the WHO and CDC, is devastating economies and disrupting life around the World, understand that this scenario is a Globalist-Elitist strategy to undermine America’s pursuit of conservative economic independence and “America First” policies instituted by the Trump Administration. Globalists have endeavored, in vain thus far, to topple President Trump’s economic and patriotic successes; strategic and incredibly successful economic polices which are a direct contradiction to the Leninist's and Marxist's desires for power coveted by the socialist-communist elites polluting the coastlines of America as well as the heart of the European Union, Communist Russia, Communist China.

America and the American people are being played as the patsy, the fool, by those with power, money, influence and a demonic desire to overthrow a duly elected President and the will of patriotic American’s who placed President Trump in a position of authority in response to the true Patriot’s rejection of globalism, liberalism, secularism, in America. COVID-19 is another virus, a strain of influenza, most likely engineered in a laboratory in Wuhan, China via collaboration among American Socialist elites – Progressive Democrats, Communist China and Communist Russia. America is under attack while our national media, federal government, stock market, the American people, are all naïve clowns in a parade of fools walking to the drumbeat of a wicked and perverse Globalist ideology-strategy.

The eschatological ramifications and implications of this most current Globalist strategy to defeat Americanism and orphan Israel are far too vast and detailed to articulate here but know this, every man and woman is dying of the virus of SIN and the only Cure is grace through faith in Jesus Christ as Lord to mediate that SIN. If the World was as concerned about the death-rate of SIN as the World is concerned about the death-rate of COVID-19, the faithful in Jesus Christ would understand and identify the enemy of Life and peace and sustainability i.e. Satan and his emissaries in Time e.g. the socialist-communist-globalist-atheist-abortionist-naturalist/evolutionist-secularist and the faithful would act accordingly.

Every man and every woman is dying daily as the result of sin and most do nothing about this pandemic yet hoard and fight their neighbor over toilet paper and hand sanitizer to comfort them in the farce of another man-made catastrophe. Mankind is to be pitied.

Dee

*****  It's a plan of world establishments to overcome world's population or what?

If that’s the case it’s dreadfully ineffective so far 

****On the other hand, do you believe now there is a God who is looking to us when we will ask for his mercy and help? 

No , a god in such situations is as much use as a coffee pot made of chocolate because there is no evidence for gods.

Why would anyone ask a god for mercy when the same god watches 8,000 people die a day of starvation?

RS_master

I think most people will get infected and 2% of us all will die. To check on how many cases there are(this website is updated daily) go to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

piloteer

@BonitaVanhooser

Do you think you could define what it is you are calling "instinct", and how it differs from irrational emotions? This "instinct" your describing seems suspiciously close to an "emotional" based argument rather than one based on objective facts like term instinct is. If all you are going on is your "gut" feeling, why would anybody consider that useful in any manner. Not in a mean manner, but what if somebody isn't all that bright, would it still be wise to go on their "gut feeling"? I fail to see how anybody's "feelings" are relevant to this issue, or any issues at all. Emotions are nothing more than chemical reactions that take place in our bodies. They have no use or value when it comes to objective facts!         

BonitaVanhooser

RickeyD said:

Though the COVID-19 virus strain, presently interpreted as a “pandemic” by the WHO and CDC, is devastating economies and disrupting life around the World, understand that this scenario is a Globalist-Elitist strategy to undermine America’s pursuit of conservative economic independence and “America First” policies instituted by the Trump Administration. Globalists have endeavored, in vain thus far, to topple President Trump’s economic and patriotic successes; strategic and incredibly successful economic polices which are a direct contradiction to the Leninist's and Marxist's desires for power coveted by the socialist-communist elites polluting the coastlines of America as well as the heart of the European Union, Communist Russia, Communist China.

America and the American people are being played as the patsy, the fool, by those with power, money, influence and a demonic desire to overthrow a duly elected President and the will of patriotic American’s who placed President Trump in a position of authority in response to the true Patriot’s rejection of globalism, liberalism, secularism, in America. COVID-19 is another virus, a strain of influenza, most likely engineered in a laboratory in Wuhan, China via collaboration among American Socialist elites – Progressive Democrats, Communist China and Communist Russia. America is under attack while our national media, federal government, stock market, the American people, are all naïve clowns in a parade of fools walking to the drumbeat of a wicked and perverse Globalist ideology-strategy.

The eschatological ramifications and implications of this most current Globalist strategy to defeat Americanism and orphan Israel are far too vast and detailed to articulate here but know this, every man and woman is dying of the virus of SIN and the only Cure is grace through faith in Jesus Christ as Lord to mediate that SIN. If the World was as concerned about the death-rate of SIN as the World is concerned about the death-rate of COVID-19, the faithful in Jesus Christ would understand and identify the enemy of Life and peace and sustainability i.e. Satan and his emissaries in Time e.g. the socialist-communist-globalist-atheist-abortionist-naturalist/evolutionist-secularist and the faithful would act accordingly.

Every man and every woman is dying daily as the result of sin and most do nothing about this pandemic yet hoard and fight their neighbor over toilet paper and hand sanitizer to comfort them in the farce of another man-made catastrophe. Mankind is to be pitied.

Though I don't agree that it is only because of America and Israel. Even each country and his people are responsible but yes, its time for self-correction.

BonitaVanhooser

piloteer said:

@BonitaVanhooser

Do you think you could define what it is you are calling "instinct", and how it differs from irrational emotions? This "instinct" your describing seems suspiciously close to an "emotional" based argument rather than one based on objective facts like term instinct is. If all you are going on is your "gut" feeling, why would anybody consider that useful in any manner. Not in a mean manner, but what if somebody isn't all that bright, would it still be wise to go on their "gut feeling"? I fail to see how anybody's "feelings" are relevant to this issue, or any issues at all. Emotions are nothing more than chemical reactions that take place in our bodies. They have no use or value when it comes to objective facts!         

That is not important to discuss it is instinct, gut feeling, six sense or whatever. I am just willing to know what are you thinking without referrence of media, world leaders etc.

piloteer

@BonitaVanhooser

I'm pretty sure I already gave you my opinion about what I feel about the current situation regardless of any media, or medical expertise. I think that a "gut feeling" is useless when it comes to true information. Even if I had no access to any true information, I would not rely on my, or anybody's "gut feeling". What if different people have a different "gut feeling" than others, which is certainly exemplified by my attitude of "gut feelings"? How can those differentiated "gut feelings" be considered any kind of reliable information?       

piloteer

@RickeyD

Does the bible say the corona virus is a globalist conspiracy, or is it your "gut feeling"? It would be nice if once-just one time you had solid proof. Just saying.  

MayCaesar

It honestly does not even enter my consciousness. I am only aware of the virus when I go to the campus and see empty streets and buildings. Its presence does not in any way alter my actions and thoughts. I expect everything to calm down in a couple of months.

Regarding the situation itself, my knowledge and analysis led me to conclude that, likely, the whole thing is a result of the observer's bias, and there is no "outbreak" or "pandemic" to speak of. It is not a conspiracy, it is just a result of people's generally poor ability at analysing data and separating background from effect. It is similar to how people nowadays are afraid of letting their kids out of sight when outside, citing "the crime situation", while in reality the crime levels are the lowest in human history, and child kidnappings in the developed world are virtually unheard of. Or how people freak out over the "gun violence", which is not really statistically significant.

Understanding statistics requires rational analysis, while many people are guided by emotions and perceptions. A loud story about something terrible on TV often trumps common sense saying that such stories are extremely rare, and people start thinking, "What if something similar happens to me? I better watch out!"

That is just the world we live in. Those of us who approach life more rationally have a competitive advantage, but we are affected by the global phenomena just the same, and when everybody is freaking out over a "pandemic", our lives are going to be affected negatively by it.

ZeusAres42

Two people of either extreme. You've got those that are panicking because of tons of media etc, and then you've got those that still tend to outright deny it's happening at all who sound nothing more like the climate change deniers.  Deniers and alarmists are just two polar opposites of one another here.

So, I have seen people not being able to analyze the data in a calm and rational manner and I've seen others deny it's an outbreak at all despite the mounting evidence is blatant.

My advice would be not to take the word of anyone on the media or anyone on here for that matter but uses trusted sources such as WHO, CDC, and the Medical Experts. FYI, some people do think that the WHO and CDC are not trusted sources but this is not correct, and almost any medical expert will tell you the opposite is true for which you can also find out for yourself. Also, the information over there has been pretty consistent thus far.

What I have seen some people post things that were said by the media but mentioned WHO saying things and then discredited the WHO rather than the media reporting it; this is an example of distorting information. I would also advise people to look out for this kind of distortion too as a lot of people can be easily fooled by things just like this.

MayCaesar

@ZeusAres42

I have never understood this "middle ground" argument, when people proclaim that two positions are extreme and hence the truth lies somewhere in between. Two positions can only be extreme if the truth actually lies in between somewhere; going the other way around logically does not work.

Consider, for example, the following two arguments:

1. There are two extreme positions: you should murder every human being on Earth, and you should not murder anyone. The truth lies somewhere in between: you should murder some humans, but leave other humans alive.
2. There are two extreme positions: the Earth is flat, and the Earth has a shape close to a sphere. The truth is somewhere in between: the Earth is likely an ellipsoid with a large eccentricity.

These arguments make little sense, do they not?

What is extreme depends on the subject in question, and the mere fact that two stances make absolutist or close to absolutist claims does not make them extreme in itself.

ZeusAres42

@MayCaesar

The truth on scientific matters lies within the scientific evidence and facts. Take or leave it; it's your choice. I just prefer to get my information from the medical experts on medical matters as opposed to other people's opinions. It's that simple; no middle ground here at all. The idea of the middle ground makes no sense here because it's not even relevant. The fact is also that you do have people panicking and you've got people that deny medical facts; that's it.

MayCaesar

@ZeusAres42

But that is not what science is: science is not about listening to people who you think are an authority on the subject and taking everything they say for granted, but about understanding their arguments and following their research. Granted, following the research personally is not always feasible, and you do have to listen to experts - but what you come to this way is not the truth and, at best, some crude approximation of it. It is not as simple as just accepting or not accepting some claims that are clearly truth.

What a fact is and how something can be established to be a fact is a separate discussion, relevant to the topic, but laying far outside its scope - nonetheless, I find it problematic how liberally you use the term "fact" in your comments.

ZeusAres42

Some further sources are listed below just to point out fact from fiction:

This first one is a video of an American Doctor analyzing, answering questions, and commenting on the misinformation of this disease, some of which I have also seen here I think:

Doctor Fact-Checks Media On Coronavirus

DOCTOR answers most searched CORONAVIRUS questions on Google

Will coronavirus return? Former WHO expert tells all

My further advice would be to be aware that there is a lot of misinformation out there, lying with statistics, distorting information, etc either from well-meaning but ill-informed people or by people doing this deliberately for some reason or another. Basically, try to remain calm and make sure your detector is on high alert. Furthermore, always use reliable, reputable trusted sources such as medical experts, science medical experts, WHO, CDC, etc.

What I would also suggest you definitely do not go by is random people who have absolutely no experience in the medical profession making blanket statements such as "The Corona-Virus is made up," "Vaccines don't work and/or they are never safe"; these are not the statements of scientists by any means or at least not very good and/or honest ones.

As one of the former WHO experts in the above videos pointed out the politicians have to prepare for the worst and the media often tends to report the worst. However, that doesn't mean the worst will happen and as he said if often turns out to be somewhere in-between from his own experiences after witnessing many things while working at WHO. This doesn't mean you can be complacent and ignore or deny a crisis is happening as it clearly is. And we must do our part to get through it as quickly as possible. Some people tend to see no more than the end of their noses, they don't realize the knock-on effect that their careless attitudes will have on others either economically or healthwise.

I was also recently under the misapprehension that the UK was disregarding WHO. This is incorrect. I am not sure what was going on with that respect a few weeks ago but in light of new information, I now know that the UK scientific advice is consistent and in alignment WHO along with many other reputable and trusted sources.

References and further information can be read and analyzed here:

• https://www.who.int/
  
• Cambridge University Press
• Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
• Cochrane
• Elsevier
• European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC)
• JAMA Network
• The Lancet
• New England Journal of Medicine
• Oxford University Press
• PLOS
• Springer Nature
• SSRN (Preprints)
• Wiley
• BMJ
• https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/public-health-england
• https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/myth-busters
• https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/symptoms-causes/syc-20479963
• https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/tag/covid-19/
• https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/coronavirus-resource-center
• https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map-faq.html

ZeusAres42

RickeyD said:

Though the COVID-19 virus strain, presently interpreted as a “pandemic” by the WHO and CDC, is devastating economies and disrupting life around the World, understand that this scenario is a Globalist-Elitist strategy to undermine America’s pursuit of conservative economic independence and “America First” policies instituted by the Trump Administration. Globalists have endeavored, in vain thus far, to topple President Trump’s economic and patriotic successes; strategic and incredibly successful economic polices which are a direct contradiction to the Leninist's and Marxist's desires for power coveted by the socialist-communist elites polluting the coastlines of America as well as the heart of the European Union, Communist Russia, Communist China.

America and the American people are being played as the patsy, the fool, by those with power, money, influence and a demonic desire to overthrow a duly elected President and the will of patriotic American’s who placed President Trump in a position of authority in response to the true Patriot’s rejection of globalism, liberalism, secularism, in America. COVID-19 is another virus, a strain of influenza, most likely engineered in a laboratory in Wuhan, China via collaboration among American Socialist elites – Progressive Democrats, Communist China and Communist Russia. America is under attack while our national media, federal government, stock market, the American people, are all naïve clowns in a parade of fools walking to the drumbeat of a wicked and perverse Globalist ideology-strategy.

The eschatological ramifications and implications of this most current Globalist strategy to defeat Americanism and orphan Israel are far too vast and detailed to articulate here but know this, every man and woman is dying of the virus of SIN and the only Cure is grace through faith in Jesus Christ as Lord to mediate that SIN. If the World was as concerned about the death-rate of SIN as the World is concerned about the death-rate of COVID-19, the faithful in Jesus Christ would understand and identify the enemy of Life and peace and sustainability i.e. Satan and his emissaries in Time e.g. the socialist-communist-globalist-atheist-abortionist-naturalist/evolutionist-secularist and the faithful would act accordingly.

Every man and every woman is dying daily as the result of sin and most do nothing about this pandemic yet hoard and fight their neighbor over toilet paper and hand sanitizer to comfort them in the farce of another man-made catastrophe. Mankind is to be pitied.

lol. And I guess when we get through this pandemic God just decided to change his mind right?