Is P.C. destroying our cultures?

jack

Dee said:

Is P.C. destroying our cultures?

Hello hater:

Nahh..  It's not destroying mine.

Q:  How many Micks does it take to fill an ashtray?? 

A:  As long as they're IN the ashtray, who the fu*ck cares?

excon

Nomenclature

@jack

Tell us all another story about how you took on the Viet Cong alone with just a stick.

jack

Nomenclature said:

@jack

Tell us all another story about how you took on the Viet Cong alone with just a stick.

Hello hater:

Of course, you're lying..  But, I will tell my war story..  So, there I was on the bow watch aboard my ship, the USS Robert K Huntington, DD - 781.  It was October, 1962..  We had just discovered that Russian ships were importing nukes to Cuba, 90 miles away from where I stood in Key West.

So, we went after those ships, and took our place in the Blockade.  After a few tense weeks, Khrushchev backed down and we could go on our way.

Now, I don't think that was very heroic.  But as long as you do, thanks.

excon

PS:  Oh, oh ohhh...  You wanna know about the time my ship, the USS Robert K Huntington, DD - 781, joined the USS Turner Joy in the Gulf Of Tonkin, and bombed the sh*it outta Vietcong positions on shore with our 5 inch guns...  Then I went to lunch.  I don't think that was very brave of me either..  But, you're welcome, in any case.

Nomenclature

@jack

That isn't anywhere near as interesting as the one you told me about when you were trapped behind enemy lines in Vietnam, armed with just a stick and half a canteen of water. That's the one I want to hear. 

Dee

@jack

Is P.C. destroying our cultures?

Hello hater:

Ha , Ha says you the decrepit old f-ck who hates the Irish 

Nahh..  It's not destroying mine.

Well your "culture" has you sucking up to fellow bigot Cornfed 

Q:  How many Micks does it take to fill an ashtray?? 

A:  As long as they're IN the ashtray, who the fu*ck cares?

Ahh you you told an anti - Irish " joke like we are not used to them

excon still looking for sympathy for his pretend hurt feelings over Jews getting creamed in German ovens

If you know any actual Kikes ask them can I get my money back for the kike lampshade I bought?

Also  my Kike skin shoes  are a bit tight  should I put then in an oven to loosen them?

Dee

@Nomenclature

I can just see the sad old kike  sitting in his wheelchair in a fake military uniform waiting for someone to say" oh wow  you're a veteran" and the old f-ol saying " I'm also  Jewish " like the dirty old fraud he is.

Nomenclature

@Dee

Ha , Ha says you the decrepit old f-ck who hates the Irish 

Can you believe this guy is 80 years old? I literally thought he was 13 until he started talking about his heroics in Vietnam.

Well your "culture" has you sucking up to fellow bigot Cornfed 

Yup, anyone can join Cornfed's gang so long as they're prepared to defend child murderers. Jack sees it as a sweet deal because Cornfed humours his delusions of being Jewish.

Nomenclature

@Dee

Even on a site like this one which is saturated with dummies, Jack stands out as being a bit thick.

Dee

@Nomenclature

He's a vile filthy old dog, I remember a member  on DI asked him what was in the can for  he refused to answer and his opponent said  " thanks that all we need to know as it's only rapists , wife beaters and kiddy fiddlers who never tell" 

I think he was all three

Dee

@Nomenclature

He makes Barndoor look like a genius , no mean feat 

Dee

@Nomenclature

So do I, seems his real name is Walter Mitty 

Dee

@jack ;

and bombed the sh*it outta Vietcong positions on shore with our 5 inch guns...  Then I went to lunch.  

Bet you had a great belly laugh about that while having a beer you cowardly f-ck , you're like that despicable buddy of yours Cornfed

jack

Argument Topic: Wow! Looky what I done. They're butthurt. Isn't it fun?

Hello:

Somebody's plotzing.. That's a Jewish word.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/plotz

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha

excon

Dee

@jack ;

Argument Topic: Wow! Looky what I done. They're butthurt. Isn't it fun

Ahh you're all upset because you got put back in your box you dirrty old dog 

jack

Dee said:

Ahh you're all upset because you got put back in your box you dirrty old dog 

Hello:

Yeah....  Butthurt for sure..  My work here is done.. 

Bwa ha ha h a ha ah ha ha

excon

Dee

@jack

Hello:

Yeah.... I'm  Butthurt for sure


You're stating the obvious now you dirty old man. 

ZeusAres42

I would go so far now as to say that this PC in UK is bordering on totalitarian gove sh!t.

@Dee if you are Ireland and not NI then at least you are doing better than us. I am beginning to wonder if the UK is fcked.

just_sayin

@Dee
Even left-wing nutjob extremists are embarrassed by this story.  They know this story is making them look bad.  it points out their eagerness to censor books, and the intolerance of the "sensitive readers' to words they have deemed "dangerous".  .Being "woke" means you have become a "joke".  

Nomenclature

@jack

Wow! Looky what I done. They're butthurt. Isn't it fun?

You're 80 years old Jack. Why are you using the language of a 13 year old skateboarder?

Barnardot

@Dee Well I reckon that your got to move with the times other wise they will ban those books because what was acceptable in those days isn't necessary acceptable now. What about those limy books about noddy they were taken off the shelves because they thought that the reason why big ears always went round to noddys place every morning was to do him because noddy was in bed then. See the way people think.

Dee

@Nomenclature

80 year old convict hanging round kids skateboard hang out ......sorta says it all don't you think?

Nomenclature

@just_sayin

Even left-wing nutjob extremists are embarrassed by this story.  They know this story is making them look bad.  it points out their eagerness to censor books

Yes, those perfectly sane right wingers never censor books, do they?

The Nazi book burnings were a campaign conducted by the German Student Union to ceremonially burn books in Nazi Germany and Austria in the 1930s. The books targeted for burning were those viewed as being subversive or as representing ideologies opposed to Nazism. These included books written by Jewish, half-Jewish, communist, socialist, anarchist, liberal, pacifist, and sexologist authors among others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_book_burnings

just_sayin

@Nomenclature
A whataboutism and a Nazi comparison in the the same post.  Translated that means "yeah, I got nothing. He's right - left wingers look bad censoring and editing these kids books."

When parents protested books like Gender Queer being in elementary, middle, and public high schools, they didn't call for the words to be altered or images to be removed as left-wing members have taken it upon themselves to do.  They wanted the book removed from public school libraries because it is not age appropriate with explicit images of underage characters performing oral sex and images of an adult naked man holding the manhood of a naked boy who is not yet a man.  I'd say there is a world of difference here.  As one protects underage children, while still allowing others access to the book, while the left-wing book editing keeps all from reading the offending words like "fat".

Nomenclature

@just_sayin

A whataboutism and a Nazi comparison in the the same post.

Lol. Looks like even fanatical far right Christian nutjobs are embarrassed by their Nazi legacy. Look guys, one of the adherents of a religion which gave us the Spanish Inquisition and the European witch hunts is calling other people "extremist nutjobs". We'd better take that one seriously.

Translated that means "yeah, I got nothing. He's right - left wingers look bad censoring

Oh, is that what it translates to? Cool. Now translate this:-

You're a delusional partisan clown who literally believes in space fairies. You have absolutely no grounds to be calling anybody else a nutjob.

just_sayin

Argument Topic: Attacking the guy who made the argument, isn't a good argument for censoring books

@Nomenclature
I noticed that you did not defend the left-wing editing of children's books.  Is that because you too think the left-wing nut jobs have gone too far?  Hey, I don't take your jabs at me personally.  Who knows, maybe if I was in your position and had to defend the censoring of children's books by left-wing nut jobs I'd resort to ad hominem Nazi comparison attacks too.  Anyway, wishing you all the best.

Nomenclature

@just_sayin

I noticed that you did not defend the left-wing editing of children's books.

Strange, right? It's almost as if attacking the left wing of the political spectrum because Puffin Books wants to edit some of Roald Dahl's work is one of the dumbest things I've ever born witness to. Just what on Earth is "left-wing editing" you absolute fanatic? Is that where we make the BFG into a revolutionary socialist?

MineSubCraftStarved

@Dee
I do agree that political correctness is destroying our culture.

Specifically, I find that the most insidious form of this "correctness" would be in our public school systems. The deliberate confusion of young children on the meaning of gender(specifically that you can change it) will only hurt them down the road. Teaching our children and our society of pseudo-scientific notions that you can biologically "change" your gender is not only incorrect but fundamentally disgusting.
As to what you said about fat people, I do agree that acceptance of fatness is wrong. Being fat is fundamentally harmful to the body, and "fat-shaming" people is only good as it encourages them to progress out of their current unhealthy state.
Another thing would be the changing of the English language as a whole. The removal of gendered words(mostly outside of the English language) and the addition of dozens of new pronouns is not only fundamentally useless but linguistically absurd. There are not more than two genders and to claim there are more than two genders is wrong. Another thing that I oppose regarding this is the separation between "gender" and "sex" in modern terms today. If gender is defined as your personal identity, then that is irrelevant, you are still a man or a woman regardless of what you personally believe. I may think I'm a walrus, but in reality, I'm not, nor will I ever be.

Although we may disagree on many topics, I hope we can agree on this.

John_C_87

 Political correctness is destroying our culture.

No, it is nothing more in America than an attempt at test looking for the more perfect state of the union with established justice. We then can go on to state as fact it has little, slight, lesser, or no assurance made towards the common defense of the general welfare. Somewhat like the contest now undertaken by United State Constitutional review that all women are created and held equal by their creator using the one United States Constitutional Right to this regard. Presadera than any international law. As it first relies on being right and not the opinion of being wrong as basic principle. As this state of the union might had work the same way for "all men" provided women or legal counsel representing all women held and made that same connection. 

: a protective interest : CARE

Regard Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

Dee

@MineSubCraftStarved



Specifically, I find that the most insidious form of this "correctness" would be in our public school systems. The deliberate confusion of young children on the meaning of gender(specifically that you can change it) will only hurt them down the road. Teaching our children and our society of pseudo-scientific notions that you can biologically "change" your gender is not only incorrect but fundamentally disgusting.

My problem with the whole PC thing is that goverments worlwide are under pressure to conform to what  I see as a rabidly militant  and dangerous movement that wants to destroy people who disagree with their ridiculous ever growing list of  dictates, their spokespeople talk about being " all inclusive" yet insisting that people who disagree with them are fascists, nazis,bullies etc,etc.

A friend of mine a teacher in a national  school over here was hauled before a school board for the crime of calling what he thought was a young lady " miss" the person in question burst into tears at being " misgendered" and was immediately surrounded bu a group of outraged pupils who en masse proceeded to the headmasters office, my friend is now doing a course on Gender issues in the workplace which he has to do or be fired.

This is outrageous and should be resisted by anyone who claims to be rational. My wife works for an American company who claim to celebrate diversity and inclusiveness and prove it every ear  by celebrating gay pride day by covering the place with rainbow decorations this is insisted on by the ones who organise  it and the decorations must stay up for a month.

 H.R .are the ones who run company policy  it seems and H.R.is run by a transexual ably supported by a lesbian ,they bring in differnt people to lecture on how society bullies ,dictates and demeans them, the company are now offering paid time off to those who want to transition.

One married man she's known many years who's a friendly decent guy who sports a well grommed black beard has being "advised "  and told  he must state on every email he sends his preferred pronouns in his case he/him.

When I worked for various companies and institutions over the years I ( mostly) succeeded in interacting sucessfully  by greeting people by name I didn't have to know their religion, politics etc,etc , now if employed in these same  places I have to know how you feel inside regards whether you feel like a woman today or maybe a man, maybe a combo of the two , maybe neutral and all the other 98 and counting different gender types , if I slip up in anyway I'm to be sent on a course of correction or fired and " outed /cancelled".

A lesbian on here last year called me a "cisgender"and said " you merely identify as male "  when I told here to stop using ridiculous,  meaningless terminology she of course was deeply offended, no one has the right to dictate to me or others that we must use their terminology that must apply to all and the scary thing is governments are now punishing people for failing to comply.

I believe a lot of this nonsense is supported by money as in big business and government who use this as an excellent way to control staff.
 
Most individuals I've heard over here spouting this clap trap are rich kids daughters and sons as this nonsense is so "in and cool" at universities throughout the world, working class people are mostly totally unaware of it.







As to what you said about fat people, I do agree that acceptance of fatness is wrong. Being fat is fundamentally harmful to the body, and "fat-shaming" people is only good as it encourages them to progress out of their current unhealthy state.

I don't believe in openly mocking someone for being fat , what I believe in is that  if I'm describing a grossly overweight person I cannot do that without  using terms that are descriptive of my observations to do otherwise is to deny reality as we perceive it . 

To remove a perfectly accurate word " fat" from a children's book is beyond ridiculous and teaching children to deny the reality of things their parents cannot bear to accept.





Another thing would be the changing of the English language as a whole. The removal of gendered words(mostly outside of the English language) and the addition of dozens of new pronouns is not only fundamentally useless but linguistically absurd. There are not more than two genders and to claim there are more than two genders is wrong. Another thing that I oppose regarding this is the separation between "gender" and "sex" in modern terms today. If gender is defined as your personal identity, then that is irrelevant, you are still a man or a woman regardless of what you personally believe. I may think I'm a walrus, but in reality, I'm not, nor will I ever be.

Our language is being changed as we speak by a growing band of bullies who are insisting on destroying their absurd worldview and worse governments and big business are totally on board in rigidly applying censorship of those who disagree

Although we may disagree on many topics, I hope we can agree on this

I disagree with a lot of stuff I hear on here but like us all I have vast areas of agreement with others , aren't we all more or less that way?

Dreamer

Argument Topic: Oh no wonder why we are having trouble getting a long, your using the telegraph as a source.

@Dee

"

• The U.K’s independent fact-checker, Full Fact, has found several false claims by The Telegraph. Climate Feedback has also found misleading information regarding human-influenced climate change."

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-telegraph/

"Overall, we rate Daily Mail Right Biased and Questionable due to numerous failed fact checks and poor information sourcing."

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/

/facepalm, okay I get it. You are highly conservative.

Political correctness, also known as civilized speech is awesome. I love political correctness I think it makes the world a much better place.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Political_correctness

Dee

@Dreamer


Argument Topic: Oh no wonder why we are having trouble getting a long, your using the telegraph as a source.

Argument topic : Dreamer being pretty st-pid by any standard doesn't realise this story was carried by most credible news outlets in the world , he thinks attacking one source means it never happened

"

• The U.K’s independent fact-checker, Full Fact, has found several false claims by The Telegraph. Climate Feedback has also found misleading information regarding human-influenced climate change."

OK,  so this is not actually happening then and the story is all lies ,OK prove it?


. 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-telegraph/

"Overall, we rate Daily Mail Right Biased and Questionable due to numerous failed fact checks and poor information sourcing."

Read above troll

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/

/facepalm, okay I get it. You are highly conservative.

You really are incredibly st-pid , I bet your mum regrets she didn't accept the option of  swallowing. 

Political correctness, also known as civilized speech is awesome.

It's known  as "civilised speech"  by super sensitive cupcakes like you who are deeply offended that someone describes a fat person as being fat , you admitted you want people jailed for having different opinions to yours now you want to bully people into using language that you and other super sensitive fascists deem offensive


 I love political correctness I think it makes the world a much better place. 

No it turns the world into a place where insecure attention seekerss want rational  people to take their self pitying super sensitive ever changing inner feelings into account or they want them publicly  shamed , fired or jailed,  its perfectly and in line with your support of science denialism and love of facisim  

Listen buddy if on a daily basis you run around bawling your eyes out that someone didn't use your preferred pronouns or " misgendered " you tell it to someone who gives a f-ck , maybe someday you will man up up dry your eyes and realise constantly bawling your eyes out won't get you what you want , hey I think you're a if I " misgendered" you let me know and I will send you on a box of jumbo tissues .......not

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Political_correctness


FACEPALM........

You never even read your own link you st-pid troll......

As a pure and basic concept, yes, there is technically  validity to the idea, that hypersensitivity can be taken a bit too far at times, particularly as it relates to academic revisionism and the tendency for a small, but vocal (not as big as conservatives would have you think) minority who seek to search for things to become outraged about, just like conservatives. However, the term has been so overused that the validity that the concept holds in some respects has been overshadowed by the fact that it is frequently used as a buzzword by the far right simply as an excuse to be total



That's talking about you the conservative snowflake bawling its eyes out because its offended ........I called you "it"in  case you're " non binrary today bwahahahahahahahahaha 

Barnardot

@Nomenclature ;Even on a site like this one which is saturated with dummies, Jack stands out as being a bit thick.

Don’t you think that’s it’s a bit odd that every one else is dum and 13 years old except for you. May be you need to slap your self across the face an wake up one day and get your self a descent brain that isn’t so infested with such radical anti people dog mess 

John_C_87

@Barnardot
Barnardot said to Nomenclature: "Don’t you think that’s it’s a bit odd that every one else is dum and 13 years old except for you. May be you need to slap your self across the face an wake up one day and get your self a descent brain that isn’t so infested with such radical anti people dog mess "

No not when I debate Nomenclature it is understood some people are incapable if addressing whole truths outside a Court of law.....Female Specific Amputation, Binvir and Uno's Mulier, Presadera, Time, Pi, GOD as Axiom not religion, and Military versus Armed Service are just a few major acts of perjury created by malpractice of law in the judicial courts of the world on my filed grievance. What is important to understand is "we the people" do not address his words as fact or as whole truth, otherwise someone at my age starting to date a 13-year-old young women would be extremely inappropriate. As I have aged to 13 over 4 times now and a lot of synchronizing of time would need to take place so when she reached 21 I didn’t through a hip or forgot her name.

Dreamer

Argument Topic: Civilized speech makes the world better and more free.

"This book was written many years ago and so we regularly review the language to ensure that it can continue to be enjoyed by all today"

A note from the book. We need to embrace diversity.

MineSubCraftStarved

@Dreamer

We need to embrace diversity.

Why is diversity so important? Why should a person's background be important in today's society? Ideally, we should live in a meritocracy where we are based, not on our looks and ancestry, but on our ideals and our skills.

Dreamer

Argument Topic: The idea of meritocracy to replace Fuedalism has been around too long.

@MineSubCraftStarved

We have all been taught the trouble with feudalism whether with Kings and Queens or communism. That capitalism or meritocracy replaces corrupt nepotism. The problem is people have unconscious bias. Ironically, the more people believe in meritocracy the more implicit bias.

JoeKerr

@Dreamer
I bet you are the kind of person who, when someone says "Good morning" to you, feels offended if
you're not having a good morning.

Dreamer

Argument Topic: No, why would you think that?

@JoeKerr

I am curious has anyone done that to you?

Dee

@Dreamer

Ironically, the more people believe in meritocracy the more implicit bias.

All you're you're saying is everyone displays bias so what exactly is your point?


It's amusing coming from you who's views include a burning dislike of the working classes all in favour of your almost  religious zeal and bias for spreading the message of big business in ripping of the working classes with so called " innovative " green technologies.


I noticed you again displayed your dishonesty by refusing to address my questions I asked you on green issues, race, and censorship,  why do you consistently lie?

Dee

@Dreamer

Argument Topic: Civilized speech makes the world better and more free.

Argument Topic: Bet Dreamer will refuse to define " civilised speech."

"This book was written many years ago and so we regularly review the language to ensure that it can continue to be enjoyed by all today"

Translation : people like Dreamer will burst out crying if someone offends them , they want people to be forced under law to adopt snowflake languge or they will bawl their eyes out , stamp their feet and take to the street with placards and all because, their 22 stone flat chested friend with cropped purple hair , tattoos, bodily piercings is unsure whether it's a he or a she and someone called them miss and is therfore guilty of " misgendering " them .......boo hoo, wail wail .........

A note from the book. We need to embrace diversity.

It's not " diversity" to go  around saying.....  " I'm non binrary , binary , otherkin, a gender ,gender fluid, MX , gender variant , etc , etc.........its language designed by hyper sensitive attention seeking weirdos who want to censor everyone who refuses to play their infantile games of  " you hurt my feelings that should be illegal"

You self pitying cupcakes ought to accept the simple fact no one cares whether  you feel like a man or a woman inside today  you will bawl your eyes out and insist we must know , you're  either a he or a she or a curious mix making you a he /she ,maybe put a label on your foreheads to let us all know seeing as it's so important ,no doubt the label will change on the  hour in the hope someone may misgender you so you can run to the gang and demand that the person who did it is fired , outed and cancelled

Dreamer

Argument Topic: I am not lying,

@Dee

You interrupt me a lot. I was talking to MineSubCraftStarved. Then, you bring up some past debate and accuse me of lying and dishonesty when I don't respond to thoroughly to every statement or question you make.

As for meritocracy and bias. Watch the video, read the books White Fragility and Nice Racism by Robin Diangelo, read the links from the below hub of links if you want more information:

https://www.eddiemoorejr.com/

I have given you a treasure trove of where to look and what to learn. At some point I am just doing unpaid intellectual labor. In the end, it is up to you to decide if you want to learn or not.

MineSubCraftStarved

@Dreamer

 The problem is people have unconscious bias. Ironically, the more people believe in meritocracy the more implicit bias.

Unironically, the more we focus on race/background issues, the more racism and discrimination there is. If we ignore it as a society than it becomes a non-issue, yet if we embrace a policy of diversity and equality of outcome, then we are then ourselves implicitly racist and discriminatory against groups that actually succeed.
To keep a level of "diversity" in institutions, you must enact discrimination since some groups do tend to outperform others. Meaning that while some groups may be welcomed in more easily, others may find it more difficult to enter such institutions.
This is by definition discrimination of background and race, not discrimination by beliefs and skills, which is what we should be striving for.

MayCaesar

@Dreamer

Ah, the "White Fragility" book... The author of which wrote a story about how she felt extremely uncomfortable picnicking with a bunch of black guys and assumed that everyone else would feel the same way in her shoes? A "treasure trove" indeed!

Dreamer

Argument Topic: I am going to summarize your argument.

@MineSubCraftStarved

I think you are stating that affirmative action is reverse racism. Is this correct? I don't want to put words in your mouth.

Dee

@Dreamer

Argument Topic: I am not lying,

Argument Topic : Dreamer lies yet again by lying about lying.

You interrupt me a lot.

This is a debate site you addressed me on this topic I corrected you and you lied yet again. You seem to think this site is just a place for you to post up copy and pasted nonsense you dont even understand.

 I was talking to MineSubCraftStarved. Then, you bring up some past debate and accuse me of lying and dishonesty when I don't respond to thoroughly to every statement or question you make.

You are a I demonstrated such only yesterday you posted up a piece pretending there was only one negative review of medical news net denying my earlier post and  then   worse being  a coward fled.

On climate change you lied several times and fled when challenged 

On the media piece on Roald Dahl you lied and fled when challenged 

On Covid mandates you lied and fled when challenged 

On this very debate you again resorted to lying regards claims I made regarding  you "new" favourite author

As for meritocracy and bias. Watch the video,

So yet again you cannot formulate an opinion of your own but instead post up  the opinion of other WOKE cupcakes

read the books White Fragility and Nice Racism by Robin Diangelo, read the links from the below hub of links if you want more information:

You mean read the books you haven't read ? Diangelo admits she's a racist and she actually calls people like you racist as you never stop banging on about how everyone who disagrees with you is racist to hide the fact that the real racist here is you.

You've made it clear you detest the working classes and you said people who didn't vaccinate were racist , that means that blacks are also racist , so according to you everyone including blacks are racist.

Diangelo has been called out several times for talking down to blacks you do the same , I do admire Diangelo for making money out of hyper sensitive cupcakes like you.

https://www.eddiemoorejr.com/

I have given you a treasure trove of where to look and what to learn. At some point I am just doing unpaid intellectual labor. In the end, it is up to you to decide if you want to learn or not.

No , what you've done is your usual  copy and pasting  the views of an admitted racist who appeals to your ever changing and  latest WOKE super sensitive feelings.

For you " intellectual labour" is posting up a link to a You Tube cartoon which suggests to me that the better part of your day is spent with a colouring book and chubby crayons while your minder gently reminds you " try not go outside the lines with your colouring dear"

MineSubCraftStarved

@Dreamer

I think you are stating that affirmative action is reverse racism. Is this correct?

Yes. It's not "reverse racism", it's just racism... discriminating in an opposite way that was done before is still racism. Discriminating against White or Asian people is just as racist and despicable as discriminating against Black or Hispanic people.

Dreamer

Argument Topic: Discrimination against white people is totally different than against Black people.

@MineSubCraftStarved

Yes, white people can be ridiculed for example by a group of American Indians or Black people. Yet, this is punching up. On the other if a group of white people ridicule a group of Blacks or Indigenous peoples this is totally different because it is punching down. Lindy West's book Shrill does a good job of explaining humor and stigma.

Black people for example have a right to feel angry about the razing of Tulsa and Rosewood by white mobs. We can cut Black people some slack in this case. Same with American Indians being upset about people celebrating Columbus day instead of Indigenous people's day. On the other hand some gullible white guy who believes the extreme right conspiracies should not be given slack. 

MineSubCraftStarved

@Dreamer

Discrimination against white people is totally different than against Black people.

No it isn't...

this is totally different because it is punching down. Lindy West's book Shrill does a good job of explaining humor and stigma.

Not entirely sure what you mean by "punching up" or "punching down." Racism is still racism, regardless of who is the majority in a region. Louis Farrakhan was still a racist, just as much as Nathan Forrest.
By that same logic of "punching up" or "punching down," since women are the majority in France (around 51%), that doesn't mean I can go around beating up women(just because they are women). Similarly, because white people outnumber black people in the United States, it does not make it right for black people to beat up white people(just because they are white).

On the other hand some gullible white guy who believes the extreme right conspiracies should not be given slack. 

People who believe in the theory perpetrated by the Nation of Islam are just as racist and pseudo-scientific as those who support the KKK. To believe that someone can be racist only based on their skin tone IS racism by definition.