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Progressive Democrat v. Christian Conservative (Moral Debauchery v. Moral Good?)

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I recall reading and listening to American history and the statements of our Founders and those intimately involved in America's genesis stating that they had given us, the American people, a Republic if we could keep it and that one of America's early Patriots stated that he did not believe America's Constitutional Republic would survive much over 100-years? These words have come to fruition in 21st-Century America as the Boomer-Generation has failed the Greatest-Generation miserably.

The Greatest-Generation having endured and conquered the horrors of the Great Depression; WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and having done so with the love of Jesus Christ, Patriotism, a staunch work-ethic, family values, discipline, education, honor, dignity, morality...though not perfect people, they were gutsy, dreamers, fearless with a "can do" attitude. Then comes the Boomer-Generation and the ebb and flow of Progressive Socialism, initiated by John Dewey in 1900, slithering into America's education system via historical revisionism, Darwinism, and the Boomer's are subtly given-over to an ideology of pacifism, sexual perversity-free love-free drugs-"peace brother," dishonor, narcissism, socialism, and these destructive traits mature void much push-back/intercession from the Greatest-Generation who were busy working, building, endeavoring to provide for their family, fighting the wars, standing their ground against Communists and Socialists abroad while these same traitorous pacifists i.e. Progressive Socialists were infiltrating America's schools and government and entertainment industry at home in America. Then, the Boomer-Generation gives birth to the Millennial's and Gen-Z Generations who are, without a doubt, the most historically ignorant, naive, sexually perverse, bloody-abortionist, generation in American history.

I observe snippets, with sorrow, of the Democrat Presidential Debates and watch Communists like Sanders, Socialists like Warren-Biden-Harris, Sodomites like Buttigieg, seeking the nomination for the 2020-Democrat President nominee and I grimace as these traitorous buffoons defecate on the graves of Patriots who fought and died to defend America from the very Leninist-Marxist ideology these infidels espouse. America is surely dying in apostasy, America is surely under God's curse as America glories in the blood of 61-million American babies slaughtered in the womb subsequent to 1973; America is dying at the perverse hands of sodomites - lesbians, homosexuals, transsexuals, queers, pedophiles, inundating our government - our schools - our media subsequent to satanic Obama's Obergefell v. Hodges (2015). God will not be mocked - God hates the hands that shed innocent blood and rampant sexual perversion in our society is an irrefutable sign of God's wrath upon the American people! (Proverbs 6:17; Romans 1:18-32)

Having policed this suffering society for 31-years, I’ve never understood how a man or woman possessing even a modicum of common decency, wisdom, logic, patriotism, discernment, can support a Political Party i.e. Progressive-Socialist-Democrats that represent flagrant racism; bigotry; misogyny; hate; anti-American/anti-Israel/anti-Christian/pro-Islamic initiatives including…

1) The mutilation of babies in the womb up to the ninth-month thereby denying these innocent children their 5th/14th-Amendment due process protections. Some 61-million babies murdered thus far subsequent to Roe v. Wade (1973). Anyone who votes for a Progressive-Socialist-Democrat has the blood of innocent, slaughtered, babies via abortion on their hands and their culpability will be Judged in Eternity before our Holy, Just, Righteous, Creator, Jesus Christ-Yeshua!

2) Sexual perversion that is destroying America’s posterity in confusion, disease, addiction, mental illness, incredible rates of suicide, hopelessness.

3) Socialism that is destroying America’s Constitutional Republic and Capitalist economic success. Socialism that is responsible for 100-million deaths in the last 100-years.

4) Open Border initiatives which are destroying America’s sovereignty through non-assimilating multiculturalism, disease, murder of American citizens by illegal aliens, economic deprivation – employment scarcity for American low-wage earners; destruction to America’s schools through overpopulation/lowered academic accessibility and incredible burdens shouldered by school administrations and teachers with insufficient wages/compensation.

5) Repeal of the 2nd-Amendment and restrictions on the 1st-Amendment creating a society easily subjected to a tyrannical-socialist government.

6) Destruction of America’s municipalities through Politically Correct policies that are destroying the middle-class and creating epidemic levels of homelessness, addiction, disease, murder, poverty, hopelessness.

7) Destruction of the family unit through abortion; gender confusion forced upon America’s youth; the celebration of sexual perversion insisting the reality of over 100-genders…suicide, absent fathers, welfare dependent mothers, illiterate children.

8) Castration of America’s law enforcement community by Progressive-Socialist-Democrat municipal and state administrations exploiting the Ferguson Effect and demonizing our police, thwarting all forms of proactive policing, while our inner-cities suffer unconscionable crime rates, murder rates and the law-abiding citizenry cowers in fear. Mothers using bathtubs as beds for their children due to stray gunfire killing the innocent in urban gang wars and drug wars. An epidemic of addiction, overdose deaths, violent gang wars, trash, rats, human feces-urine polluting our streets, the resurgence of diseases from antiquity while pompous, arrogant, mindless, Democrat mayors, governors, live in their gated, posh, safe, communities.

Progressive Socialism is death to America and the Progressive-Socialist-Democrat is the epitome of a traitor to America and the icon of hypocrites. May God have mercy on America's posterity!



   


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  • Is it morally acceptable to punch a fascist in the face?
    Plaffelvohfen
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • You appear very jaded and frustrated in your posts. Does Christianity not teach love and compassion regardless of the circumstances? If so, you are not the best champion of Christian values out there.

    Socialism is a pretty terrible ideology responsible for countless deaths, but so is Christianity. Crusades alone, by various estimates, have killed up to ten million people. Half-Europe died out during the Black Plague, because, instead of trying to treat people (and, despite what people believe nowadays, scientists at the time knew something about plagues and could do something about it), the clergy argued daily over who gets to fill the emerging power vacuum. Countless starvations, horrible wars, genocides and purges for religious reasons and for clergy's inability to do anything but punish people for their transgressions - given how much smaller the European population was at the time, it would not be a stretch to say that the unnecessary death rate was comparable to that in most socialist/communist regimes of the 20th century.

    American system indeed was originally based on higher values than the ones modern politicians promote. Only not in the way you think. It used to be that individualism was very highly valued; that people who stood out in some way were respected, not ostracised.
    Nowadays, the political space is full of controlling people who want to subject everyone to their totalitarian ideology, be it socialism, nationalism, Christian fundamentalism or whatever else. People who stand up for the original values of the Republic are now called "classical liberal", with the implication that their time has come and gone.

    Thomas Jefferson would not be proud of your preachings, my friend.
    Happy_KillbotPlaffelvohfensmoothie

  • 1) I fight for the Truth of my Lord and His dominion and authority over this World. My words are simply Truth and you're free to rebut them.

    2) In your lack of knowledge, you equate Christianity with Catholicism but Catholicism has never been Christian. Catholicism was founded by Constantine in 312-313AD via the Edict of Milan by merging Babylonian Paganism/Roman Paganism with elements of Christian and non-Christian (Apocrypha) doctrine in order to make the pagan cult more palatable to the masses.


    The Mass; The Sacraments; Transubstantiation; Purgatory; The Rosary; Statues in Worship; The Perpetual Virginity of Mary as the Goddess of Heaven; The Idolatry of Mary Worship; calling Catholic Leadership as "Father"; Confessing sin to a Priest; The Magisterium; Indulgences; these are NOT Scriptural and undermine the purity and simplicity of salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ as Lord; thereby, leading the innocent millions/billions in the way of deception and hopelessness. http://www.eaec.org/cults/romancatholic.htm

    The Crusades were overwhelming Catholic and they were a reasonable response to Islamic terrorism as the Islamic Caliphate enslaved and murdered Jews and Christians...and even though the Crusaders were not successful in stopping the Islamic Caliphate, they fought with honor; until the Caliphate was stopped in 1924 subsequent to 1400-yrs of terror, Islam had butchered 270-million non-Muslims in the name of Allah-Satan.

    3) The only totalitarian ideology existing in today's America is that espoused by the Progressive-Socialist-Democrats who have always been the Party of bigotry, slavery, restrictions on human rights...you have been lied to and hood-winked by revisionist history, Darwin and lust.


     


    PlaffelvohfenHappy_Killbotsmoothie
  • Plaffelvohfen
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @RickeyD I actually read what you wrote for once:

    "In your lack of knowledge, you equate Christianity with Catholicism but Catholicism has never been Christian. Catholicism was founded by Constantine in 312-313AD via the Edict of Milan by merging Babylonian Paganism/Roman Paganism with elements of Christian and non-Christian (Apocrypha) doctrine in order to make the pagan cult more palatable to the masses."

    You are wrong! Why would you even think that? Catholic is the original Christian!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmbrbouyKgA
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @RickeyD Just saying:
    At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
  • @Happy_Killbot has been muted for his abuse, harassment and comments to his absurdity will not be forthcoming. Thank you, @RickeyD ;
  • @RickeyD

    Catholicism is as much Christianity, as Shia is Islam. Catholics have slightly different values, but the same core beliefs. If you have to dismiss various Christian subgroups as "not true Christians" because it is inconvenient for your "religion of peace" claims, then there is something wrong with your claims.

    And yes, Islam also has brought an incredible amount of misery to humanity. I do not know if Islam or Christianity has done more harm; they are comparable in this regard.

    At the time of Crusades, Europe was in an even worse state than the Caliphate. Those people did not fight the Caliphate; they fought usual land grab wars. You see, people fighting for a good cause do not slaughter and impregnate entire cities, and they certainly do not send children to fight.

    When you have to tell a perverse version of history to make your camp look good, then your belief system is skewed. Me, I do not need to tell any perverse versions; I love free markets and individual freedom, and I will be the first to acknowledge that free-market societies are not blameless. I can say that without shame, because I have no insecurities; my advocacy for free markets is not based on some alleged god who proclaimed that they are divine, but on their objective qualities, and I realise that nothing is ever perfect, and even the best free market in the world will sometimes underperform.
    You cannot say the same about Christianity, as that would imply that your god has been lying to you, and your entire world view would collapse then - hence you cling to a rewritten version of history, to avoid facing that horror. That is the problem with irrational points of view: one has to invent stories all the time to defend them.
    Plaffelvohfensmoothie
  • PlaffelvohfenHappy_Killbot
    why so serious?
  • @smoothie ; God's objective morality is infused within our inner-man, out spirit, at conception. Christianity did not invent morality but seeks to honors God's morality through obedience to the Holy Spirit. Treating your neighbor, your fellow man with respect and dignity is a good thing but it does nothing to alleviate your sin problem and the truism that without Jesus Christ as Lord for the forgiveness of your sin, you have no hope of life in God's Kingdom. Mankind endeavors to pursue moral relativism while God's law, as written upon our heart, is immutable. 
    smoothieHappy_Killbot
  • At some point in the distant past, the universe went through a phase of cosmic inflation,
    Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
    Through a long process of evolution this life 
    developed into the human race.
    Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .

    All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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