Should We Walk Like An Egyptian?

JulesKorngold

We should walk like Popeye too!  An Egyptian Popeye...

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Reported for racism.

John_C_87

@JulesKorngold
Are you sure that is a image of a person walking and not doing something else.

JulesKorngold

Egyptians may be considered a distinct ethnic group with a shared history and culture, they are not a distinct biological or genetic "race."

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@JulesKorngold

Egyptians may be considered a distinct ethnic group with a shared history and culture

Absolutely, because they all come from Egypt and have a shared Egyptian history and/or culture. This is in stark contrast to Jews, who come from all over the world and who share no culture outside of religious culture.

John_C_87

@JulesKorngold
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It is hard to stand for peace without losing what is on your mind......turning to hate...

JulesKorngold

Judaism shares some of the characteristics of a nation, an ethnicity, a religion, and a culture, making the definition of who is a Jew vary slightly depending on whether a religious or national approach to identity is used.

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@JulesKorngold

Judaism shares some of the characteristics of a nation, an ethnicity, a religion, and a culture

It shares all of the characteristics of a religion, because that's what it is. Your efforts to elevate your religion to the status of ethnic group so that people are banned from criticising it only illustrates that you're a completely unreasonable fanatic.

JulesKorngold

Argument Topic: Not Just A Religion

Judaism is more than a religion:  Ben-Gurion,  Golda Meir, Moshe Dayan, and Einstein were Jewish atheists.   There are many millions of non-religious secular Jews.

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@JulesKorngold

Judaism is more than a religion

Utterly and inexcusably false. 

Ben-Gurion,  Golda Meir, Moshe Dayan, and Einstein were Jewish atheists.

No, they were atheists. It is the Jewish religion which labelled them Jews. I'm getting tired of refuting your absurd circular reasoning, where you claim Judaism is more than a religion, and attempt to support it with the beliefs of that same religion.

JulesKorngold

Argument Topic: Some More Jewish Atheists

• Woody Allen
• Stanley Kubrick
• Rodney Dangerfield
• Randy Newman
• Larry King
• Howard Stern
• Arthur Miller
• Isaac Asimov
• Yuval Noah Harari
• Franz Kafka
• Primo Levi
• Ayn Rand
• Carl Sagan
• Marvin Minsky
• Norbert Wiener
• Richard Feynman
• J. Robert Oppenheimer
• Sam Harris
• Christopher Hitchens
• David Silverman (current president of American Atheists who eats kosher food made by his Jewish mother)
• Herman Kahn
• Erich Fromm

Jewish atheism refers to the atheism of people who are ethnically and (at least to some extent) culturally Jewish. Contrary to popular belief, the term "Jewish atheism" is not a contradiction because Jewish identity encompasses not only religious components, but also ethnic and cultural ones. Jewish law's emphasis on descent through the mother means that even religiously Orthodox Jewish authorities would accept an atheist born to a Jewish mother as fully Jewish.

Jewish secularism, which describes Jews who do not explicitly reject the existence of God but also do not believe it is an important part of their Jewishness, has a long tradition in the United States.  A 2013 study conducted by the Pew Research Center found that 62% of self-described American Jews say being Jewish is mainly a matter of ancestry and culture, while just 15% say it is mainly a matter of religion. Even among Jews by religion, 55% say being Jewish is mainly a matter of ancestry and culture, while 66% say it is not necessary to believe in God to be Jewish.

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@JulesKorngold

You're a con artist with no valid argument. You can't use the beliefs of the Jewish religion as evidence that atheists can be Jewish. That's exactly like using the beliefs of the Christian religion as evidence that miracles are real. It's the dumbest, most fallacious circular reasoning imaginable and it shows you have zero respect for what is true and rational. 

The President of the Association of American Atheists, himself born into a family of Jews, makes that fact absolutely clear here:-

Can You Be an Atheist and a Jew at the Same Time? David Silverman Says No.

“He used the word wrong,” he said. “They are not Jews, they are children of Jews. Just as I am not a Jew, I am a child of Jews.”

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/belief/articles/david-silverman-atheist

JulesKorngold

Toxic people will often lie compulsively, not just to others, but to themselves. They will often perform mental gymnastics to convince themselves that their lies are reality. Unfortunately, lies are actually very hard to keep up. Recounting a true event is relatively easy, but keeping track of a bunch of made-up stories is difficult. Liars end up exposing themselves over time, by contradicting themselves with other lies.

Despite his protests to the contrary, David Silverman is a Jewish atheist.

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@JulesKorngold

Toxic people will often lie compulsively

Your upside down, black is white nonsense doesn't impress me, and neither does your absurd argument that religious Jews have the authority to define the identity of non-Jews. 

JulesKorngold

Argument Topic: Who Is Jewish?

“Who is a Jew?” This is an ancient question with no single, timeless answer. On the one hand, being Jewish is a matter of religion – the traditional, matrilineal definition of Jewish identity is founded on halakha (Jewish religious law). On the other hand, being Jewish also may be a matter of ancestry, ethnicity and cultural background. Jews (and non-Jews) may disagree on where to draw the line. Is an adult who has Jewish parents but who considers herself an atheist nevertheless Jewish, by virtue of her lineage? What about someone who has Jewish parents and has converted to Christianity? Or someone who has no known Jewish ancestry but is married to a Jew and has come to think of himself as Jewish, though he has not formally converted to Judaism?

Orthodox Judaism and Conservative Judaism follow Jewish law (Halakha), deeming people to be Jewish if their mothers are Jewish or if they underwent a halakhic conversion. Reform Judaism and Reconstructionist Judaism accept both matrilineal and patrilineal descent as well as conversion.

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@JulesKorngold

Stop making claims you know full well are false.

So perhaps the question should not be “Are the Jews a race or religion?”, but rather “who is a Jew?”

UNDER JEWISH RELIGIOUS LAW (halakhah), a person is Jewish if they are born to a Jewish mother, even if they themselves are not religious, or if they convert to another religion.

https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/142041

You are using the arbitrary, subjective beliefs of a religion to assign a false identity to people who are not members of that religion. You're a con artist who is pushing a fallacy rooted in circular reasoning, and since you are fully aware of the fact that you can't rationalise your fallacy, you are instead spamming material written by other people who are proliferating the exact same fallacy.

Barnardot

@JulesKorngold Well I think its a miscontraception that they walked like because its only the movies that made that up because theres no evidence like does it say under neath the painting this how we walk no it doesn't. It was proberly the artist who gets off on getting chicks to pose for him doing dum things like balance things on her head and be on one foot and making her arms go like that. You try and do that. If you look at all the cringy photos that they took in the 1920s the photographers did the same thing except that they got rubinesck chicks with small boobies and they were made to look at the sky looking surprised and doing dum things with there arms and legs.

JulesKorngold

John_C_87 said:

@JulesKorngold
Are you sure that is a image of a person walking and not doing something else.

What do you think they are doing?  Posting on Facebook?