Does climate change makes wildfires worse?

Dreamer

Argument Topic: Yes, climate change makes wildfires worse.

We cannot be 100% sure if all those Canadian wildfires are caused by climate change, but overall expect more wildfires.

https://skepticalscience.com/wildfires-global-warming.htm

Barnardot

@Dreamer ;We cannot be 100% sure if all those Canadian wildfires are caused by climate change, but overall expect more wildfires.

I was wondering if when if you cant be sure that the fires aren't caused by climate change then why do you expect more wild fires. Is it that there are going to be more lunies running around with gas cans or what are you trying to mean because it doesn't make sents to me.

Dreamer

Argument Topic: Climate change causes plants and soil to dry.

@Barnardot

Thank you for your response. Does explaining how climate change causes vegetation and soil to become dry answer your question?

Bogan

I really can not say.   Whereas Australia recently experienced a continent wide phenomenon of extreme bushfires, which were blamed by climate cultists of anthropogenic global warming, the climate in Australia seems to have become wetter over the last few decades.       This was contrary to the hysterical predictions of the climate cultists, who confidently predicted that Australia would become hotter and drier.    Australia's Climate Commissioner, Tim Flannery, opined that "The dams will never fill again, and even the rain that falls will just soak in and not create runoff."     This prediction fell flat on it's face when the dams in Queensland and NSW overflowed with rainwater which drowned downstream towns.     Then there was "the ship of fools" incident, where a bunch of climate cultist scientists convinced the Federal government to fund their little expedition to Antarctica, to monitor how global warming was reducing the Antarctic ice cap.    They set off in a Russian icebreaker chartered by the taxpayer and got stuck in the Ross Sea icepack which rather inconveniently had increased in size over the last time anyone had looked.    They spent weeks on the ship watching re runs of "Breaking Bad" before being rescued by gas guzzling helicopters. 

Dreamer

Argument Topic: There is a 97% scientific consensus on climate change. You are using conspiracy thinking.

@Bogan

I am going to pick my battles and walk away from this. It doesn't take long to realize you are using questionable sources to make your claims.

https://crankyuncle.com/which-climate-scientists-are-in-the-97-consensus-poster/

Barnardot

@Dreamer ;Does explaining how climate change causes vegetation and soil to become dry answer your question?

No it doesn't at all in fact your saying the opposite and trying to wriggle out of it. Because your trying to say that you cant be sure if there caused by climate change and now your back tracking by saying they are. Not good arguing is it  because if you dont know weather your Arthur or martha then people are not going to under stand where your coming from.

Barnardot

@Dreamer @Bogan ;I am going to pick my battles and walk away from this. It doesn't take long to realize you are using questionable sources to make your claims.

Bogan is right and you cant say what you did because you dont know what his sauces are any way so again your pulling a long bow to come up with that.
But the wired thing is that your sauces are so questionable and 1 sided its not even funny like Cranky Uncle and then this one

https://skepticalscience.com/wildfires-global-warming.htm
And then you cant decide which side of your breed is butted. And then you give up the debate just because Bogan came up with a proper answer. man your debating is off this planet.

Dreamer

Argument Topic: No your misrepresenting my argument that's a strawman.

@Barnardot

How difficult is to understand the difference between trends and one time events? Climate changed increased heavy rains by 20% in some areas. Any individual heavy rain we cannot known if this was definitely caused by climate change. All we know is the general trend, and that is more important anyways.

Barnardot

@Dreamer ;All we know is the general trend, and that is more important anyways.

I get the point that you are pointing out but the thing is that climate change has made no impact on fires braking out because 2 degrees in 50 years is not going to make that much difference at all. The number of lunies who have cars and watch violent stuff on TV and who easily get a can of gas and go in to the forest has probably in creased. Just have a look at how most of the fires are started and youl see its by lunies who want to get on a power trip because there moms didn't give them breast milk and there dads beat the living day lights out of them. Instead of blaming fancy nancy greenie stuff like climate change we should be looking at these spaozs running a round with Zippos. If we stop them then we stop 90 per % of fires I bet.

Bogan

@Dreamer ;   I am going to pick my battles and walk away from this. It doesn't take long to realize you are using questionable sources to make your claims.

What "questionable sources"?    Australia had continent wide bushfires although Australia's climate seems to have become wetter.     The quote from Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery is an oft quoted remark in Australia, and the subject of much mirth.   Dams in Rockhampton, Brisbane, and Sydney had to open the floodgates which drowned Rocky, Brisbane, and Windsor (west of Sydney)   The "ship of fools", of climate change scientists who got stuck in the Ross Sea ice shelf in a Russian icebreaker really happened.  I suppose I could give you links, but I won't bother, you are probably a hopeless case.    If you had ever done your homework first before you accepted what your peers expect you to believe without question, you would never have believed the climate cultists anyway.

Run rabbit, run rabbit, run, run, run.

Bogan

@Barnardot

Eeek!   Are you agreeing with me, Barnadot?     I must be wrong then?

MayCaesar

Depends on the nature of change. In general, wildfires grow in frequency and severity as the forest coverage grows and as the humidity level drops - yet, at the same time, increase in humidity is associated with increase in the forest regrowth rate. When it comes specifically to increase of average temperatures (which I assume is what you are referring to), there is not a single reliable model that accurately predicts how it affects humidity and forest coverage in the long run. One can model it accurately in case of a small isolated system, but not in case of something as complicated as planet-wide climate.

jack

@Dreamer

Hello Dreamer:

It most certainly does.  Our climate is in a continuous state of flux..  The pertinent question here is, are we exacerbating it.  We unquestionably are.  Certainly, we've heard the arguments on all sides.  I'm not going to take them up here except to say, that if you DON'T believe mankind is effecting our environment, you NEVER will.  And, if you believe we are, you'll NEVER change your mind. 

excon

Barnardot

@Bogan ;Eeek!   Are you agreeing with me, Barnadot?     I must be wrong then?

I think its fare that you agree with some ones point because of the point and not because of them being a dufis or not. I dont agree with all your racialist stuff for example but I know that red necks do have some valid points like not believing all those lezos with smelly hairy arm pits who hug wales and expect us to believe that the planet is doomed because people keep spraying there deodorant and recking the ozone and causing bush fires. What those dikes and nancy green boys dont under stand is that there blaming big companies and burning gas when that has vary little impact impacting on the environment any way. I think that there are more psychos running around with Zippos and gas cans than ever before.

Just think about it because there are so many dysfunctional families a round nower days because kids moms didn't give them breast milk and there dads beat the crap out of them. So what they do is look at heaps of destructive x box games then decide they want to be in control and go and burn down a forest because its so easy. Then they go home and watch it on CNN with one hand on a crack pipe and guess where the other hand is.

Bogan

@Barnardot

Hi Baranadot.    You don’t agree with ALL of my “racialist stuff”?      Then that means that you agree with SOME of it?     (I think I may have a contributor who has a functioning brain here?)     Okay, so what do you agree with, and what do you not agree with?   WARNING, if you even agree with “SOME” of my “racialist stuff” then as far as the Left is concerned, you are an evil racist.    So, if you do agree with SOME of my “racialist stuff”, then you may as well go all of the way, open your heart, and learn something.     

Dreamer

Argument Topic: "It is unequivocal that human influence has warmed the atmosphere, ocean and land."

For those questioning my sources here is reuters also. 

https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/key-takeaways-un-climate-panels-report-2021-08-09/

Here's snopes, at some point others will see you are simply incorrect.

"Despite persistent and ominous predictions from scientists and advocates, equally persistent sources continue to circulate misinformation and cast doubt on what is a widely accepted truth among thousands of scientists: Climate change is real and it’s caused by humans."

https://www.snopes.com/collections/climate-change-denial-debunked/

MayCaesar

@Dreamer

Reuters and Snopes... You did little to alleviate my skepticism, Dreamer.

These authors cannot even write the sentences containing their position well enough.. "Widely accepted truth among thousands of scientists" - according to UNESCO, as of 2013, there were roughly 7.8 million scientists in the world. A few thousands of them correspond to a much narrower consensus than the consensus on the shape of Earth.
If this is the kind of sources you read in order to learn about science, it is no wonder that you so consistently make the most absurd claims.

Dreamer

Argument Topic: The relevant climate change scientists are all that matters. Computer science majors are scientists.

There are plenty of scientists in unrelated or marginally related fields. You don't want a plumber fixing your car nor a doctor replacing your electrical wiring. Once a specialist is outside their narrow field of expertise they are vulnerable to all the cognitive biases we all have.

MayCaesar

@Dreamer

That is something that needs to be specified when talking about "thousands scientists". Notice, by the way, how low your own standards is: you are okay with articles leaving such essential clarifications out. This is how you become as a consequence of consuming content of this level of quality regularly.

My criticism to you is "irrelevant"... Of course, anything is ever only relevant if it agrees with your preconceived notions, regardless of how logically flawed it is. When something questions those notions - hey, it is irrelevant, I do not want to even consider the possibility of being less than perfectly right.

Barnardot

@Bogan ;You don’t agree with ALL of my “racialist stuff”?      Then that means that you agree with SOME of it?  

Well by the same tockin it could mean that I agree with more than your racialist stuff.

So you better quit trying to be smarter than me before you dig your self in to a real deep sess pit full of dog mess.