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Are the riots in France the start of a new Revolution?

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I don't think so, but posing a provocative question like this is surely bound to attract interest.
Undoubtedly, these clashes come after an extended period of tension regarding immigration. I suppose the real question is to what extent these riots will affect France.
Will they result in police reforms, more limitations on their powers, greater leniency to immigration, and more progressive policy? Or will it spark a radical reactionary government to enforce the rule of law strongly in the face of such an uprising, and the potential side effects associated with such an event?
Which is the likely result, and which is desirable?



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  • BoganBogan 451 Pts   -  
    For thirty odd years, us "racists" have warned the loony left that the importation of people from different racial and religious cultures who have cultural and reluigious values diametricaly opposed to the west, would eventually result in serious social strife,  calls for separtism. terrorism, and finally, civil war.      We even had the example of Yugoslavia in why Balkanising your country will result in complete dysfunction.    But no, the virtue signalers who insisted that immigrants were all "just like us" refused to listen.  Okay then, the result we predicted is right there on your TV screens.    This has been coming for decades and the portents were plain to see with serious rises in criminal behavior's, rape, civil strife, and terrorism.       

    We told you so.

    It just goes to show how wealthy people can get so comfortable that they forget about what is important for their own people and their nation to survive.     Europe will fall unless the Eurotrash get together and start figuring out that a bit of racism and ethnic cleansing is essential for their survival.    During WW2, much of eastern Europe had quite large populations of ethnic Germans within their borders.    That was one of the justifications that Hitler used to start WW2.    He insisted that wherever Germans lived, that was Germany.    Putin is doing the same thing right now in Ukraine.  wherever there are Russians, that is Russia.   

    During WW2, the German minorities in the east European countries enthusiastically sided with Nazi Germany.     Because they were Germans, the Nazi party trusted them and they became the administrators of the conquered countries.    They also formed the Einsatzgruppen, the mass murderers who went around their conquered countries mass killing anybody, or any group that they did not like.    After WW2, the east Europeans, Poland, Romania, Czechoslovakia, and Bulgaria realised that these ethnic Germans resident in their countries were an existential threat.    They forced them all to go back to Germany, at gunpoint.    Were they wrong for doing a bit of ethnic cleansing of a nationality which had turned on them?  I don't think so.

    In Korea, the Japanese had settled there for 100 years and they were the administrators of this Japanese colony.    The yanks knew that to allow the millions of Japanese to stay in Korea would cause untold problems for decades to come.    So the Americans too did a bit of ethnic cleansing themselves, and they forced millions of Japanese people resident in Korea to go back to Japan.  The North Koreans just murdered the ones in the north.   

    Here in Australia, hordes of illegal immigrants sailed from Indonesia to avail themselves of the Australian social security system.     As usual, the socialist Labor Party of Australia looked upon these people as their new electorate.     The more useless and crime prone people dependent on welfare, the better the election chances of the socialists.      Bringing third world people into Australia has not gone well either, with ethnic crime in our major cities littering our streets with bodies from drive by shootings.   Dozens of Australian girls have been gang raped by Muslim race hate rape gangs.    Somali and Sudanese "refugess", despite being given free houses and money to buy furniture and appliances, repaid Australian generosity with home invasions, burglaries, and car thefts.    Even though both major political parties never stop virtue signalling over how bad racism is, both parties quietly agreed among themselves to stop importing Somali and Sudanese "immigrants" into Australia "because of the difficulty in assimilating these people"

    The smartest thing that the Liberal Party of Australia did for a long time, was to purchase second hand lifeboats and put the illegal immigrants they navy had intercepted at sea, and released the boats back off the Indonesian coast, with enough fuel to get to an Indonesian port or beach.    This is what the eurotrash had better start doing for their own national survival.     The first customers should be those Arabs and Africans who were arrested  during the French riots.   If they can't act civilized, and they want to be a threat to the French people, then they can go back to Muslimland and Africa.    
  • jackjack 458 Pts   -   edited July 2023
    Argument Topic: Are the riots in France the start of a new Revolution?


    Bogan said:

    For thirty odd years, us "racists" have warned the loony left that the importation of people from different racial and religious cultures who have cultural and reluigious values diametricaly opposed to the west, would eventually result in serious social strife,  calls for separtism. terrorism, and finally, civil war.
    Hello M:

    I wouldn't call it a new revolution..  I'd call it a continuation of both the Civil War, and WW II.  We never did finish either of 'em.  We drew borders that were bound to fail, and for the last 50 years, they have.  Not for the betterment of mankind either.   

    Therefore, I agree with the "racist" above. 

    excon

  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6053 Pts   -  
    The French society is known for its tendency to respond to crises in a weighted manner, rather than overreacting and going all in on the counter-offensive as the US or the UK are prone to. The society usually acknowledges existence of a problem, but also recognizes that solving it necessarily comes with unpleasant trade-offs, and that, to the extend to which it is possible, it is better to not upset the boat. Partially this tendency could be explained as a heritage of the French Revolution, when the massacre that ensued left such a deep mark on the history of France that the society has developed almost a physical aversion to sudden changes of the course.

    Compare, for instance, the response of the French people to the Charlie Hebdo shooting to the response of the American people to George Floyd's murder. In the former case we saw a pretty unanimous response that acknowledged that the shooting was absolutely a product of Islam and that commitment to freedom of expression was far above any considerations of political correctness/ In the latter case we saw a mass hysteria and endless allegations of "systemic racism" and "evil cops" despite lack of any evidence suggesting that a) the murderer was acting out of racist considerations, and b) that the murderer's actions reflected a larger trend in the police system.

    I do not expect anything to come out of these protests. It is worth noting that France has a pretty strong national identity unlike, say, the British colonies, and demands of immigrants there have much less power than here. There are upsides and downsides to this, but in this particular case it means that the general population will be strongly opposed to the idea of inducing some massive reforms in the police or the immigration system based on demands of arrivals from a few less developed countries.
  • BarnardotBarnardot 533 Pts   -  
    @Bogan ;would eventually result in serious social strife,  calls for separtism. terrorism, and finally, civil war.

    And who causes the social strife terrorism and civil war. Yes the bogins and the red necks who have there heads so far up themselves and so arrogant and ignorant that they cant and wont understand that people that are different from them have a right to live there life style and not be told that they have to go a round with guns in there mat black hi luxes shooting every thing. To them every one should be like them or not be any thing at all.

    jack
  • BarnardotBarnardot 533 Pts   -  
    @MayCaesar ;I do not expect anything to come out of these protests.

    Still in the end the authorities have to sit up and listen and do some thing different because look what happened when the Frenchies protested before. That bitsh queen told them to eat cakes and her dum ace husband who didn't know wheather he was Arther or Marther didnt know what to do and the rest is history. 

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