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There are no contradictions in the Bible.

Debate Information

Position: Against
A challenge for anyone to come forth and present what they believe to be biblical contradictions and for to refute.



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For:

50% (5 Points)


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50% (5 Points)



Votes: 1


Debate Type: Traditional Debate



Voting Format: Casual Voting

Opponent: JulesKorngold

Rounds: 3

Time Per Round: 48 Hours Per Round


Voting Period: 24 Hours


Round 1

Round 2

Round 3

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  • Round 1 | Position: For
    JulesKorngoldJulesKorngold 828 Pts   -   edited August 2023
    Some contradictions:
    • The number of days in the creation story: Genesis 1:3-5 says that God created the heavens and the earth in six days, while Genesis 2:4 says that he created them in "one day."
    • The location of the Garden of Eden: Genesis 2:8 places the Garden of Eden in Eden, which is located "in the east," while Ezekiel 31:8-9 places it in Assyria.
    • The number of times Moses struck the rock: Exodus 17:6 says that Moses struck the rock twice to bring forth water, while Numbers 20:11 says that he struck it once.
    • The genealogy of Jesus: Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke 3:23-38 give two different genealogies of Jesus.
    • The resurrection of Jesus: In Matthew 28:1-10, the women who visit Jesus' tomb find it empty and an angel tells them that he has risen. In Mark 16:1-8, the women find the tomb empty but do not see an angel.
    • The age of Noah: Genesis 5:32 says that Noah was 500 years old when he had Shem, Ham, and Japheth, while Genesis 7:6 says that he was 600 years old when the flood began.
    • The number of people who were saved in the ark: Genesis 7:7 says that eight people were saved in the ark, while 1 Peter 3:20 says that only six souls were saved.
    • The fate of Sodom and Gomorrah: Genesis 19:26 says that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by fire and brimstone, while 2 Peter 2:6 says that they were destroyed by sulfur and fire.
    • The number of times Jesus was tempted by Satan: Matthew 4:1-11 says that Jesus was tempted by Satan three times, while Luke 4:1-13 says that he was tempted four times.
    • The day of Jesus' crucifixion: John 19:14 says that Jesus was crucified on the day of Preparation, which is the day before the Sabbath, while Mark 15:42 says that he was crucified on the Sabbath.
    • The order of events in Jesus' life: The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke all give different accounts of the order of events in Jesus' life. For example, Matthew and Luke place the Sermon on the Mount before the Transfiguration, while Mark places the Transfiguration before the Sermon on the Mount.
    • The words of Jesus: The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all record different sayings of Jesus. For example, Matthew and Luke record Jesus saying, "Love your enemies," while Mark and John do not record this saying.
    • The miracles of Jesus: The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all record different miracles of Jesus. For example, Matthew and Luke record Jesus healing a blind man, while Mark and John do not record this miracle.
  • Round 1 | Position: Against
    smithj_jamalsmithj_jamal 27 Pts   -  
    Genesis 2:4 "This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the Lord God made the earth and the heavens." --------- This verse does not say anything was made in one day. Your charge or point has been refuted.

     Ezekiel 31:8-9 "The cedars in the garden of God could not rival it, nor could the junipers equal its boughs, nor could the plane trees compare with its branches— no tree in the garden of God could match its beauty. I made it beautiful with abundant branches, the envy of all the trees of Eden in the garden of God." ----------This verse mentions nothing of Assyria.

    Exodus 17:6

    " I will stand there before you by the rock at Horeb. Strike the rock, and water will come out of it for the people to drink.” So Moses did this in the sight of the elders of Israel."

    The verse doesn't say the rock was struck twice.

    In regards to the genealogy in Matthew and Luke please buckle down the exact verse in which you think there's a conflict. You've given several points and for the sake of time, a lot of time will not be allotted to just one point dealing with several verses.

    Same thing with Mathew and Mark, Matthew 4 and Luke 4, buckle down, point out the exact single verse.

    John 19:14

    " It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon.

    “Here is your king,” Pilate said to the Jews."

    Nothing is mentioned here about crucifixion.

    Order of events aren't conflicts. Just subjected tellings of events by perspective.
    The gospels vary details by perspective. These don't contradict. This might be the most number one thing people get wrong from the scriptures.



  • Round 2 | Position: For
    JulesKorngoldJulesKorngold 828 Pts   -  
    Genesis 2:4
    "This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made them."
    Your translation is faulty.  Use a better version.

    The Bible mentions Moses striking the rock twice in Numbers 20:8-11. In this passage, the Israelites are complaining to Moses about their lack of water. Moses asks God for help, and God tells him to speak to the rock. However, Moses instead strikes the rock twice with his staff. This angers God, and he tells Moses that he will not be allowed to enter the Promised Land.  You need to do more research.

    Here are some key contradictions between the genealogy of Jesus in Matthew 1:1-17 and the genealogy of Jesus in Luke 3:23-38:

    • The starting point: The genealogy in Matthew begins with Abraham, while the genealogy in Luke begins with Jesus' father, Joseph.
    • The number of generations: The genealogy in Matthew has 28 generations, while the genealogy in Luke has 42 generations.
    • The names: There are some names that appear in both genealogies, but there are also many names that only appear in one genealogy or the other.
    • The order of the names: The order of the names in the two genealogies is different.
    Read the passages and weep.

    The conflict between John 19:14 and Mark 15:42 is one of the most well-known contradictions in the Bible. The two passages record the time of Jesus' crucifixion. John 19:14 says that Jesus was crucified at the third hour, which is 9:00 in the morning. Mark 15:42 says that Jesus was crucified at the sixth hour, which is 12:00 noon.

    You have yet to address the following contradictions.  What's stopping you?
    • The resurrection of Jesus: In Matthew 28:1-10, the women who visit Jesus' tomb find it empty and an angel tells them that he has risen. In Mark 16:1-8, the women find the tomb empty but do not see an angel.
    • The age of Noah: Genesis 5:32 says that Noah was 500 years old when he had Shem, Ham, and Japheth, while Genesis 7:6 says that he was 600 years old when the flood began.
    • The number of people who were saved in the ark: Genesis 7:7 says that eight people were saved in the ark, while 1 Peter 3:20 says that only six souls were saved.
    • The fate of Sodom and Gomorrah: Genesis 19:26 says that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by fire and brimstone, while 2 Peter 2:6 says that they were destroyed by sulfur and fire.
    • The number of times Jesus was tempted by Satan: Matthew 4:1-11 says that Jesus was tempted by Satan three times, while Luke 4:1-13 says that he was tempted four times.
    • The order of events in Jesus' life: The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke all give different accounts of the order of events in Jesus' life. For example, Matthew and Luke place the Sermon on the Mount before the Transfiguration, while Mark places the Transfiguration before the Sermon on the Mount.
    • The words of Jesus: The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all record different sayings of Jesus. For example, Matthew and Luke record Jesus saying, "Love your enemies," while Mark and John do not record this saying.
    • The miracles of Jesus: The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all record different miracles of Jesus. For example, Matthew and Luke record Jesus healing a blind man, while Mark and John do not record this miracle.


  • Round 2 | Position: Against
    smithj_jamalsmithj_jamal 27 Pts   -  
    Are you adding new points?

    You haven't even cleared up the first ones.

    I'm not addressing several verses and several points. No essay here. Condense it down to a single verse with another single one per point.

    I've showed several verses that don't say what you are saying.

    Genesis 5 and 6 have two different events.

    I can see if they were the same event. That's how contradictions work.


    1 Peter 3:20 says 
    "to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, "


    Another verse that is not saying what you're saying.

    Actually read these verses instead of perhaps copying and pasting from a site.

    About Sodom and Gomorrah, what's the difference between fire and brimstone and fire and sulfur?

    See you got to be careful not to create conflict. Don't add conflict to the scripture. Scripture mentions about adding less you be found a .

    It doesn't look too good from much of these verses we went over.

    Every other point is just a regurgitation from my first counterpoint.

    Saying "Your translation is faulty.  Use a better version." is faulty. It's an invalid rebuttal. This is a biblical debate. What I provided were biblical scriptures regardless of the translation.

    As long as its bible, you have to be ready for any version as long as its bible.




  • Round 3 | Position: For
    JulesKorngoldJulesKorngold 828 Pts   -  
    You failed.

    Of my 13 contradictions you only responded to 7.  You did not address:
    • The resurrection of Jesus: In Matthew 28:1-10, the women who visit Jesus' tomb find it empty and an angel tells them that he has risen. In Mark 16:1-8, the women find the tomb empty but do not see an angel.
    • The age of Noah: Genesis 5:32 says that Noah was 500 years old when he had Shem, Ham, and Japheth, while Genesis 7:6 says that he was 600 years old when the flood began.
    • The number of times Jesus was tempted by Satan: Matthew 4:1-11 says that Jesus was tempted by Satan three times, while Luke 4:1-13 says that he was tempted four times.
    • The order of events in Jesus' life: The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke all give different accounts of the order of events in Jesus' life. For example, Matthew and Luke place the Sermon on the Mount before the Transfiguration, while Mark places the Transfiguration before the Sermon on the Mount.
    • The words of Jesus: The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all record different sayings of Jesus. For example, Matthew and Luke record Jesus saying, "Love your enemies," while Mark and John do not record this saying.
    • The miracles of Jesus: The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all record different miracles of Jesus. For example, Matthew and Luke record Jesus healing a blind man, while Mark and John do not record this miracle.
  • Round 3 | Position: Against
    You reject me and receive not my words. That's what the scripture says. I have responded to you .

    You rejected what I had to say point blank. You refuse to narrow down to a single verse as I've requested over and over.

    You reject it, so be it. Scripture says let every man be persuaded in his own mind.

    You can't lean on your own understanding without believing these scriptures. 

    1 Corinthians 2:14

    "The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them."

    Being that all scriptures are God breathed, these are the things of God or come from the Spirit. So it's just folly to you, it doesn't make sense, it APPEARS conflicting to you.

    Having eyes that do not see, etc .

    A rebellious house indeed but I'm done.

    The dust is wiped off my feet.
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