When will America kick in?

John_C_87

@jack

Is an impeachment of a President of the United States of America really a crime. The process of an impeachment may rather be an official relief of command by its original connection to established justice by Delcoration of Independence. By law of nature “all men are created equal by their creator and the oath of office by ability describes President as just one of those creators of men. As self-evident truth. If they, men are to compete for a right of Presidency by display of ability an impeachment may be written as a state or federal criminal law somewhere but is by self-evident truth written in American Constitution a United States Constitutional Right. This make an impeachment a United States Constitutional Right for men, no offence as the truth is short and to the point.

MayCaesar

A person being found guilty outside of formal procedures such as Senate hearings simply because some people really dislike him is not how I see "America kicking in". This kind of thing happens in Russia or China; luckily, not here.

Dreamer

Trump is bad and I hope justice is served, but what caused Trump to get elected Trumpism will persist even if he goes to jail.

https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2022/01/28/why-is-there-now-such-an-affinity-between-antivaxxers-and-fascism/

Trumpism is worse than Trump and has similarities with fascism. We could throw Trump in jail and elect a fascist.

"He discusses each major characteristic of fascism in a chapter, the characteristics being:

1. The Mythic Past
2. Propaganda
3. Anti-intellectual
4. Unreality
5. Hierarchy
6. Victimhood
7. Law and order
8. Sexual anxiety
9. Sodom and Gomorrah
10. Arbeit Macht Frei"

https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2022/01/28/why-is-there-now-such-an-affinity-between-antivaxxers-and-fascism/

We need to counter all ten of these pillars of fascism. Also, the regressive left new age movements are likely candidates to become fascists because of Syncretism. I hope I am incorrect, but we are in serious risk of America becoming a fascist country. Fight, fight, fight don't let this happen. Punish Trump

Openminded

Argument Topic: A person being found guilty outside of formal procedures such as Senate hearings simply because some people really dislike him is not how I see "America kicking in". This kind of thing happens in Russia or China; luckily, not here

@MayCaesar
The J6 committee laid out strong evidence against Trump. He incited an insurrection against our government. It is not simply that he is unliked, he is simply guilty of crimes.

Barnardot

@jack ;This time, however, Trump will be tried, not by a right wing Senate, but by a jury of his peers..  Will he escape again?

I reckon its a matter of finding out weather or not this is all just a which hunt when Trump comes up in court. The indications are that all the carp thrown at him so far has been exaggerated stuff that the democrats have pinned on him. When you analize it in the end its up to the people to sort through all the crap and if we look at Clinton and now Biden the public will proberly find that its all a load of trumped up crap.

John_C_87

@MayCaesar

A person being found guilty outside of formal procedures such as Senate hearings simply because some people really dislike him is not how I see "America kicking in". This kind of thing happens in Russia or China; luckily, not here.

A President is not found guilty He is convicted as a civil officer impeachment is the failure to set and hold a state of the union with established justice and articles of the Preamble of American Constitution and is seen as treason. The idea that congress and senate are not civil officers is wrong and the bet was set that the United States Constitution cannot represent a woman as created equal by her creator with all women faster than a criminal law that obstructs justice can be enforced by the House of Representatives.

Executive officer # 45 is not acquitted those who act with the impeached are co-conspirators in treason. The House is simply demonstrating what it has been incapable of doing for decades, the responsibility of preserving, protecting, and defending the United States Constitutional Right. What the House of representatives has done is displayed an ability to legislation United States Criminal law which is held in the courts as possible evidence against legislators of possible treason. Executive officer # 45 is taking donations / payments on behalf of his legal counsel from the civil public just as members of the House of Representatives take donations from the civil public, they are civil officers. This is a reality show joke an impeachment is required to take place in an Armed Service Court. This is an irony for the principle was written as the United States Military was just forming.

John_C_87

@jack

A government institution cannot proceed through a task it does not know how to perform.

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

The argument is that impeachment is the sole power of the House of Representatives and not the Courts, or the peoples as all men are created equal by Independence of English law. The houses having sole power means the only power and they cannot house trials of criminal law by United States Constitutional Right.

John_C_87

@jack

In the 1st impeachment hearing, the evidence of Trumps guilt was overwhelming, yet the right wing Senate acquitted him.  The same was true in his 2nd impeachment.  The Senate acquitted him again.

My first addition here would be that the Senate did not acquit executive officer # 45, they the officers overruled the impeachment. The interpretation of impeachment by Article 1 as a sole power of the House led them to believe the process of impeachment is not part of the American declaration of Independence where are men are held equal by the assignment of Constitutional development and preservation as President of the United States of America. A sole power is the only power to which they oversee as a body of Civil officers of the United States Constitution. 

They oversee legislation of criminal law and United States Constitutional Right but cannot under any condition perform a trial or hearing of any kind. The sole power of United States House of Representatives is impeachment, and it is not a Constitutional criminal law it is a United States Constitutional Right. The order of creation places this power before the idea of Federal criminal law. I can see why the idea of sole power can be interpreted to be only theirs to control and not the only power the house holds. 

The Early Years of American Law | Encyclopedia.com

Article I Section III

The Senate shall have the sole power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. (Look at this as to mean King, President, man vs. King, President, man but without war it is before the house of representatives as a witness, and they are held all under oath or Affirmation.)

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

Military Justice | Article | The United States Army

"Three organizational components of military justice exist within the Judge Advocate General's Corps (JAGC): the SJA; the Chief, United States Army Trial Defense Service (USATDS); and the Chief, U.S. Army Trial Judiciary."

This is like a complicated way to say double jeopardy does not apply so rushing an impeachment into a criminal court to get a verdict before the process begins will not stop the process once started.

John_C_87

The Bill of Rights tells the GOVERNMENT what it CAN'T do.

The American Declaration of Independence has been changed, has been altured, we will say by men who are acting as people who may or may not wish to remain equal to all men. equality of all men are said by grievance to be untrue from accusations made outside the independence declared, while the fact is that a united state of people have only chosen not to hold the self-evient truth as false and not true. They become the creators of a criminal law to seek that all men are not created equal by enforcement of that criminal law.

assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them. ( An act of Independence is not sending people to the House of reprenatives without regulation, a person is acting as a united state when not sending people to re-act anywhere but to their homes, taking money for legal fee's is not an act of a declaration of independence.) A free nation is dependent on the value of cost, those cost are measured in Notes and in liberties.

Declaration of Independence: A Transcription | National Archives
Is the statement that men are one people true? Can it be held as self-evident truth without assistance from criminal law?

Do you not want to understand and see why it is illegal for a women to be President of the United States of America?

When will America kick in. America is described by its declaration of Independence from English law, English criminal law legislated by parliament to speak as whole truth. When will America kick in, when it reaches the more perfect state of the union with established justice and facts described by preamble of the United States Constitution, is when. Repeating myself I will say all men are able to assume the responsibility and burden of President of the United States Constitutional right, not all men are found tom be fit to hold both the executive office and office of the President of the United States of America. A woman is because of a lack of provision of life and liberty a Presadera it is the condition of the constitutional representation and not the name of the representation to American Constitution which is to describe a woman’s pursuit of happiness. Sharing a name or title is a liberty of religious states of the union they are not a liberty of best United State Constitutional right. The connections made are too small to be a perfectly achievable united state.

jack

jack said:

This time, however, Trump will be tried, not by a right wing Senate, but by a jury of his peers..  Will he escape again?

excon

Hello ex:

It looks like only one trial is gonna happen before the election, and that's the insurrection trial.  If he's acquitted, then I think he'll win the presidency, and will begin dismantling our beloved country..

excon