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maxx

several times i have asked you specific questions. What does the definition of racism mean to you? explain that definition in terms of what it means. I have also asked you if it is not the whites fault for blacks plight then tell me why. I have explained very clearly as to why it is whites fault  . answer those questions. very well you do not hate blacks; you simply discriminate to them because according to your previous replies: they are most of them are inferior in many ways to whites. You also are racist to them because you resent the fact that blacks claim this inferiority is we whites fault. I ask you how it is not the fault of whites?  You can not be tired of explaining these 2 questions to me, for you have not answered them.  Look. i do know you have a decent intellect; so if you look at the history of blacks since enslavement by whites, and to this very day; how can you possibly even deny it is the whites fault? @Bogan

Bogan

@maxx ;  several times i have asked you specific questions. 
And because I am a nice guy who is trying to educate you, I almost always answer them.   (some I regard as metaphorical) Which is more than you ever do for the questions I pose to you.    I do not think that you have ever answered a single question of mine.  

Maxx quote    What does the definition of racism mean to you? explain that definition in terms of what it means. 
Already answered.  Which makes me think that you do not even bother to read my lengthy and detailed replies to you?

Maxx quote     I have also asked you if it is not the whites fault for blacks plight then tell me why.
No you have not.     And your question assumes that the plight of blacks definitely is the white guys fault.    Which is a racist attitude towards whites.        How do you justify your disgusting racism towards whites?  

Maxx quote     I have explained very clearly as to why it is whites fault 
Please cut and paste any quote from you where you ever made that racist assertion, which proves that you hate your own race.  

Maxx quote     . answer those questions.
 Why?  You never answer mine.    I know what you are up to, ask me endless questions to put me on the defensive, and tie me up doing all the work.       Sorry ma-a-a-a-te.    I am an experienced debater, I am awake to your dirty tricks.  

Maxx quote       very well you do not hate blacks; you simply discriminate to them because according to your previous replies: they are most of them are inferior in many ways to whites.
Another attempt to put words in my mouth by misrepresenting all that I have written to you, and putting the worst possible spin on it.     Black African (and Australian aboriginal) people make exceptional athletes in any sport involving running.    That does not mean that Asians and whites are "inferior" people.    It just means that races are not equal in physical terms alone.     

Maxx quote     You also are racist to them because you resent the fact that blacks claim this inferiority is we whites fault.
True enough.     If somebody accuses me or my group of something insidious, I am hardly going to consider them my bosom buddies.  
  
 Maxx quote       I ask you how it is not the fault of whites? 
I have spent two and a half years on this debate site explaining that to people who just do not want to know.    So, you explain to me how it is the white people's fault, and I will just do what you do, and deny, deny, deny.  

Maxx quote      You can not be tired of explaining these 2 questions to me, for you have not answered them. 
it is pointless explaining anything to anyone who has already made their mind up, and they just do not want to know.     And all they want to do is run you around in circles playing silly buggers because it amuses them.  

Maxx quote     Look. i do know you have a decent intellect; so if you look at the history of blacks since enslavement by whites, and to this very day; how can you possibly even deny it is the whites fault?
Everybody enslaved everybody else. since forever.  It was the white race which first race which claimed to a disbelieving world that slavery was wrong.      But only black people keep using slavery as the lame excuse to explain away why their race is so dysfunctional in the modern world.      Australia's only experience of slavery was white people enslaving other white people.     Surprise, surprise, the importation of black Africans into Australia is seeing crime rates surge involving black Africans.   Even though these people get generous welfare, free medical treatment, and public housing.   Only last week, a 70 year old white grandmother in Ipswich Queensland was stabbed to death in a shopping center carpark by four African teenagers, right in front of her terrified 6 year old granddaughter, just to steal her car which they dumped only 20 minutes later.     

Barnardot

@Bogan ;@Maxx Queensland was stabbed to death in a shopping center carpark by four African teenagers, right in front of her terrified 6 year old granddaughter, just to steal her car which they dumped only 20 minutes later.     

And how many more mugging s and murders were done by whites ? Of course the other side of your brain that would compute that info does not work for some odd reason does it?

Barnardot

@Bogan @Maxx And any way the woman was killed by one person and he is Australian so it just goes to show how some people lie there head s off when they only have half a brain and want to make false arguments.

maxx

bull. you have not answered those 2 questions, which is why i am forced to read between the lines and guess; in which is why you claim i misinterpret you. Also look at history and you will see so many murders done to blacks, by whites simply because they did not like them. You do not hate blacks but discriminate them based upon two reasons according to your replies. One: They are intellectually inferior to whites; however; and you agreed; this is genetic. Makes little sense to discriminate any race or people because of genetic issues. You may as well discriminate against people with blue eyes. Genetics are not the fault of blacks.  Two: from enslavement, to reconstruction, to jim crow, to today, we have downtrodden blacks in so many ways, that it has ben impossible to make it in society as we whites have. The history books alone prove you wrong. We denied them proper education; decent jobs; we kept them out of our neighborhoods, forced them into slums, formed anti-black organizations; treated them as sub humans, all because of what? Genetics? We have denied them almost everything since we enslaved them; up to the point that they had very little resort, than to scavenge and steal just to survive in a world that they were enslaved to. Don't believe me? look at the history books. Either that; give me a rebuttal than proves me wrong, for you simply do not like the idea that it is whites fault.  I never thought you would act like some of these religious folks, and totally ignore the facts and evidence just because it goes against your beliefs. @Bogan

Bogan

@maxx ;     bull. you have not answered those 2 questions, which is why i am forced to read between the lines and guess; in which is why you claim i misinterpret you. Also look at history and you will see so many murders done to blacks, by whites simply because they did not like them. You do not hate blacks but discriminate them based upon two reasons according to your replies. One: They are intellectually inferior to whites; however; and you agreed; this is genetic. Makes little sense to discriminate any race or people because of genetic issues. You may as well discriminate against people with blue eyes. Genetics are not the fault of blacks.  Two: from enslavement, to reconstruction, to jim crow, to today, we have downtrodden blacks in so many ways, that it has ben impossible to make it in society as we whites have. The history books alone prove you wrong. We denied them proper education; decent jobs; we kept them out of our neighborhoods, forced them into slums, formed anti-black organizations; treated them as sub humans, all because of what? Genetics? We have denied them almost everything since we enslaved them; up to the point that they had very little resort, than to scavenge and steal just to survive in a world that they were enslaved to. Don't believe me? look at the history books. Either that; give me a rebuttal than proves me wrong, for you simply do not like the idea that it is whites fault. 

 

I tend to treat my opponents I two ways.   Those who debate me honestly, I consider to be people who are committed to an unbiased search for the truth.     They may have a position opposite to mine, and they may advocate and defend that position passionately.    But they do not resort to dishonest debating tricks to stay in the game.      My original profile of you was, that you had a brain (unlike so many trolls here), so you were worth engaging in.     I suspected that you were up to no good on previous debates when you pretended that you could not even make the simplest of connections involving what species and sub species were.       But I still considered that you might be smart enough to understand reason and logic.     But it looks like you are just another ideologue with a bee in his bonnet, who really does not even want to know what his opponent is saying?     You probably do not even read more than my first 2 or 3 sentences?  

 You have submitted reasons why you blame your own race for African minority dysfunction.      I have already told you that Australia’s experience with black Africans is only recent, and that despite these people getting all sorts of advantages over other Australians, we are seeing the same pattern of absolutely mindless violence being committed by young black African males.      Because Australians have been more or less disarmed by the governments, it was at one time in Melbourne impossible to purchase a baseball bat because so many men were buying them to defend their homes and families from young black home invaders.     I have already submitted to you the fact that both sides of our federal government, including the staunchly anti racist socialist Labor Party, passed a bi partisan bill in our Parliament to stop the immigration of any more African blacks from the horn of Africa (Somalis, Eritreans, and Sudanese) because they are just too crazy violent and so that they almost unemployable.     The stabbing murder of the 70 year Ipswich grandmother last week was just another example of that.       As usual, our rulers do not want you to know which ethnicities are a problem, so once again, the ethnicity of the offenders was not published by our fake news press.      It is only because video images of the accused being taken into custody could the public figure out that the young men who committed such a senselessly violent and needless crime were Sudanese.

 Young black males are a serious crime problem in any western country that has them as recent immigrants.   So, you premise that black dysfunction is all the fault of historical slavery does not add up.         In Australia, Sudanese born or descended offenders are 20 times more likely to commit violent crimes than for any other none African ethnicity.     How does your Jim Crow theory stack up there?     In Britain,  although African blacks account for only 12% of the London population, they account for to thirds of the shootings and stabbings in that city.   African blacks make up 2% of the UK population, and 15% of the prison population.    Since Britain abolished slavery 300 years ago, please explain how Jim Crow applies there?       According to Nicholas Stix’s report " The Color of Crime" in the USA, published by the New century Foundation (10/06/05) citing FBI statistics     “… between 2001 and 2003, blacks were 39 times more likely to commit violent crimes against whites than the reverse, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.”     Between 2001 and 2003, blacks committed, on average, 15,400 black-on-white rapes per year, while whites averaged only 900 white-on-black rapes per year.      “Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.”

 From these figures, could you please tell me which race is the more racist?   (Yet another question that you will dodge)

 If white people do not like black people, and even discriminate against them, can you blame them?      If blacks are the equal of whites, then why is it that every single black majority city in the USA, run by a black mayor and a black DA, such sheetholes?      Why are retail stores fleeing black areas?      For any person with a functioning brain, the answer is pretty damned obvious.     Black suburbs and cities are sheetholes because they are full of blacks, and because black people turn good cities and good suburbs into sheetholes.     The problem is not white people, or Asian people, or Jews, or Indians from India, at all.    The problem is black people themselves.    

maxx

i have already explained as to why blacks commit more violence; so now you are doing the exact thing to me as you accused me of doing. They are poor, down-trodden for many generations, live in slums, have little food, no prospects, nothing but a bleak future ahead of them; at least if we are discussing the blacks who are below our class. Just how much crime and violence do well off, middle class suburban blacks commit compared to whites? No answer there i bet. and still no answer to my question on how it is not whites fault considering the 500 history of racism that whites stamped on them. You are not accepting the facts.  the odd thing about this, is you point to your statistics "without" understanding sa to why they exist. Assessing the Race–Crime and Ethnicity–Crime Relationship in a Sample of Serious Adolescent Delinquents - PMC (nih.gov)       Crime Statistics: Whites Commit 3 Times More Crimes Than Blacks — So Why Aren’t There Far More Caucasians In Prison? - Inquisitr  another thing, is you do not even bother to study as to why blacks are inferior aside from agreeing it is genetic on intellect, which you are racist for that reason; and ignore the facts that the history books show it is whites fault.  You ask can do i understand why whites do not like blacks considering the statistics?  Blacks did not enslave themselves.  We whites are simply shifting the blames. are you even aware that police tend to target lower income blacks much higher than lower income whites? One thing is for certain; if racism to races based simply on their inferiority, it will continue to be passed on through whites genetics to where it will eventually become inherent.   also, biologically there are no actual sub races; just culturally. Biological Races in Humans - PMC (nih.gov)  @Bogan ; Human races are not like dog breeds: refuting a racist analogy | Evolution: Education and Outreach | Full Text (biomedcentral.com)  Think for a minute. You have a racist view, therefore tend to think in those terms; and in such, it is not allowing you to objectively look at the facts. 

MayCaesar

Bogan said:

@MayCaesar ;    I do not remember any of these events: 

Uhuh!    just as i suspected.    Early Onset Dementia.   You have not been taking your Geritol, tovarich.   

I am sorry that our relationship is so one-sided... You are thinking so much about me, suspecting things, analyzing things... And I am only aware of your existence for a few seconds per week, when I decide to lazily reply to you just to warm up with typing before opening LeetCode. I know your pain, I have been there. Sending you a virtual hug!

Bogan

Maxx quote   i have already explained as to why blacks commit more violence; so now you are doing the exact thing to me as you accused me of doing. They are poor, down-trodden for many generations, live in slums, have little food, no prospects, nothing but a bleak future ahead of them; at least if we are discussing the blacks who are below our class.

To begin with, thank you for once again dodging the question I asked you to answer in my last post to you.   I think that now makes it 100-0.         Secondly, other than disagreeing with me that races are different, your last posts were the first time that you ever displayed your true colours, and claimed outright that white people are the cause of black dysfunction.   If you had told me that a couple of years ago that you support CRT, I would have handled you differently.     Thirdly, my last post to you displayed to anybody who has the ability to think, that your CRT is simply malarky.     Here in Australia, with the recent importation of African blacks into Australia, and with Australians waiting ten years for public housing, the Federal government used taxpayer funds to purchase suburban houses from suburban real estate agents, just to house incoming black Africans.     In addition, our governments gave every black family AUS$15,000 dollars with which to purchase furniture and white goods.      Australian welfare is so generous that boatloads of “refugees” land on our shores every year in order to become part of our supposedly racist society.   It is racist all right.   Racist toward white Australians.     Despite the generosity of the Australian government towards African blacks, we are seeing exactly the same very high rates of criminal behaviour and welfare dependency that we see everywhere else in the western world, where certain always dysfunctional ethnicities go to live.    Your CRT “explanation” is obviously invalid. 

 

Maxx quote        Just how much crime and violence do well off, middle class suburban blacks commit compared to whites? No answer there i bet.

The answer is, I just do not know?    But it would not surprise me if the black middle class crime rate equaled the white or even Asian crime rates?       Intelligent people have low crime rates, and that fact could apply to all races?       But it is impossible to confirm that because just like in the Ipswich murder last week, governments do their utmost to keep the ethnicity of offenders from the public.     In Australia in 1984, the sundry ethnic organizations successfully lobbied the Federal government to prevent the Australian Bureau of Statistics from collating or storing any statistics related to ethnic crime.    Gee?    I wonder why?   Our governments even resort to even outright lying about it.       Victoria Police’s Chief Commissioner, Christine Nixon, claimed that “African” crime rates were not noticeably higher than for anyone else.      She “proved” this by mixing the crime rates of white Rhodesians, white South Africans, Jews who had fled African Arab countries, and Portuguese from Angola and Mozambique, together with black Africans.    Which is another example of how our public service institutions are being corrupted by officials who know that their careers and their pension funds rely entirely upon toeing whatever government line is in fashion at the moment. 

 

Maxx quote  and still no answer to my question on how it is not whites fault considering the 500 history of racism that whites stamped on them.

Hey mate.    Already addressed add nauseum in my previous posts to you, including the top of this current reply.   And if you think that black dysfunction is all the fault of white people, then that is your premise to prove.    It is not my job to do your job for you.

 

Maxx quote       You are not accepting the facts. 

Please post up whatever “facts” you have to support your belief in CRT.    I have already posted enough facts and reasoned arguments to sink you. 

 

Maxx quote   the odd thing about this, is you point to your statistics "without" understanding sa to why they exist. Assessing the Race–Crime and Ethnicity–Crime Relationship in a Sample of Serious Adolescent Delinquents - PMC (nih.gov)       Crime Statistics: Whites Commit 3 Times More Crimes Than Blacks — So Why Aren’t There Far More Caucasians In Prison? - Inquisitr 

Yeah Dreamer does that a lot.   Unable to think up any reasoned arguments to support his crazy ideology, he just posts a link and says “so there!”   If your link says anything you think is pertinent, summarise it and post it up as your own argument.  You may use links as evidence to support your argument, but I object to you using links AS your argument.  I am debating you, not your link.  

 

Maxx quote      another thing, is you do not even bother to study as to why blacks are inferior aside from agreeing it is genetic on intellect,

You are once again implying that the reason why certain ethnicities are always dysfunctional is all the white man’s fault?       That is a racist accusation which is provably wrong.      If your premise was correct, it has to be repeatable everywhere.   Australia is a glaring example of how wrong it is.   The only people who get discriminated against in Australia are white people.  Would you like me to post up the laundry list of special benefits that people claiming “aboriginality” get in Australia?     And this from people who say that they only want “equality.”     None of these benefits alters the fact that aboriginal women are 15 times more likely to be murdered by their spouses than for any other ethnicity in Australia.  

 

Maxx quote       You ask, do i understand why whites do not like blacks considering the statistics?   

Another question that you did not answer.    101-0.

 

Maxx quote     Blacks did not enslave themselves. 

Nobody enslaved blacks in Australia.    The only slaves we had were white convicts, and white indentured labourers.    Yet here we are seeing exactly the same pattern of black dysfunction in Australia, despite blacks having more rights and privileges than whites.     Your CRT does not make sense.

 

Maxx quote       We whites are simply shifting the blames. are you even aware that police tend to target lower income blacks much higher than lower income whites?

Probably because low income blacks are much more prone to serious criminal violence than low income whites.    The people on death row are there for committing the most heinous of violent crimes.    That blacks are very seriously over represented as death row inmates, despite only being 12% of the US population, should tell you that black African people are much more crazy violent than white, Asian, Indian, or Jewish people. 

 

Maxx quote  One thing is for certain; if racism to races based simply on their inferiority, it will continue to be passed on through whites genetics to where it will eventually become inherent. 

You have claimed previously that racism is inherent in all people, so what you are now saying is contradicting yourself.

   

Maxx quote  also, biologically there are no actual sub races; just culturally.

Sub species.     I have never said sub races.  “Sub races” is your invention to avoid acknowledging an inconvenient truth.  

 

Maxx quote      Biological Races in Humans - PMC (nih.gov)  @Bogan ; Human races are not like dog breeds: refuting a racist analogy | Evolution: Education and Outreach | Full Text (biomedcentral.com) 

Once again, if your link has anything pertinent to say, then summarise it as your own words, as your own argument.    But just looking at it, it is clearly potty.    Anyone with high school genetics knows that if you can breed a dangerous dog, you can breed a dangerous human being. 

   

Maxx quote     Think for a minute. You have a racist view, therefore tend to think in those terms; and in such, it is not allowing you to objectively look at the facts. 

 Wrong again.    I was once a young trendy lefty like yourself, who protested against the South African Springboks playing football in Sydney.     But unlike you, I began to see that those who claimed to be the most ardent anti racists, were in fact extremely racist.  They were racist against my people.  And your people.     In addition, it was the very same caste of university educated elites who banged on, and on, about “equality” who were looking down their noses at me.   It was facing those obvious contradictions which got me at the “tipping point”, where I did start to become objective.    Hopefully, you may yet get old enough to begin to think straight too?    

Barnardot

@MayCaesar @Bogan ; I know your pain, I have been there.  Sending you a virtual hug!

He needs a virual kick in the pants so he gets off this site. Now hes making up bazzar stories about a group of Africans who killed a woman which never happened. Once again I checked his story and it is like all the other imaginary stuff he makes up. He is one bad ace and has gone past the hug stage.

Bogan

Barnardot

@Bogan And sooo. What is your point here? Are you finally trying to tell every one what a low down lieing dishonest person you are? Well thats ok because its a start isnt it?
Because no where in the video does it say the woman was killed by 4 men does it? And no where in the video does it say that the 1 person they think who did it is African does it?

And white Australians did not enslave white Australians did they? 
And white Australians enslaved black Australians and ruthlessly murdered them and took a way there children dint they? And of course you forgot to mention that part didnt you?

So many questions to some one who will never answer them but demands that others answer his dum and offensive questions. 

maxx

Argument Topic: ce and facts simply because of your views.

you mentioned sub races in another post on racism between you and I. However you will continue to ignore the evidence simply because of your views. so my posting of links supporting the facts, you will ignore. You seem to think it is ok for whites to be racist to certain races, but you do not like it when they are racist to whites.  I also guess that you probably that the world in the far future should continue to be racist based upon that any race is considered inferior by another race, we should always be racist to it; based simply upon genetics; lower intellect, and resentment of their views. As well, comparing me to dreamer simply because i posted high quality links to prove my statements; in which you fail to agree upon is ridiculous. Now you not only dis- agree with me, the history books; but also the links. @Bogan

Bogan

@maxx

Maxx quote    you mentioned sub races in another post on racism between you and I.

Thank you for once again proving that you take whatever I say, then put the worst possible spin on it, and then insist that I justify my “extreme” position.    I challenge you to find any quote by me where I have ever used the term “sub races” to describe non whites.        I only ever used the term “sub species”, which just happens to be a scientific term used by Naturalists, to describe how different species can evolve into other species through intermediary stages.   These intermediary stages are well known in the scientific world, and results in sub species that are identifiably different to the original species, and identifiably different from each other.   The fact that naturalists have also applied this logic to human sub species has been recognised by science since Carl Linnaeu discovered this evolutionary principle, and he even named human sub species himself.     This concept is childishly simple to understand, but the problem with you is the usual one.  It is impossible to make a person understand even the simplest of concepts, if he just does not want to understand it.

 

Maxx quote     However you will continue to ignore the evidence simply because of your views.

Okay, so you falsely say that I am speaking about “sub races”, which implies that I think that non whites are inferior, and then you claim that my supposedly extreme position “ignores the evidence?”     I gotta hand it to you, maxx.     When it comes to using dirty tactics to stay in the arena, that one is original.   I have never come across that one before. 

 

Maxx quote   so my posting of links supporting the facts, you will ignore.

I am very happy to discuss whatever your links say, maxx.    Provided that it is your argument.  I can not debate a link, but I can sure debate you.   Read your own link and if you agree with what it says, then post up it’s claims AS YOUR OWN ARGUMENT.      I can not question a link.  And, it is the lazy way of staying in the game.    If I wished, I could just find something on the net which refuted your link, and the debate would just turn into a link war.   That is not debating.    Read your link and internalise it.    If you agree with what it says, then post it up as your own argument..   

    

Maxx quote  You seem to think it is ok for whites to be racist to certain races, but you do not like it when they are racist to whites. 

Oh, that is cute.     You yourself have claimed that everybody is racist, and then you pretend that you are outraged that whites are racist?      The principle that I submitted, which as usual you are misrepresenting, is that if white people through their taxes financially support the dysfunctional ethnicities who prey upon them through crime, and who never stop blaming their benefactors for their own unacceptable behaviour, then you can hardly blame white people for disliking them.     This is a factor which is very simple to understand.    But as usual, not only do you not want to understand it, it gives you another opportunity to take whatever I say and put an extreme spin on it.

 

Maxx quote     I also guess that you probably that the world in the far future should continue to be racist based upon that any race is considered inferior by another race, we should always be racist to it; based simply upon genetics; lower intellect, and resentment of their views.

So, after deliberately misrepresenting what I have said, you now run with it to get as much mileage from it as you can?    Cute maxx. 

 

Maxx quote       As well, comparing me to dreamer simply because i posted high quality links to prove my statements; in which you fail to agree upon is ridiculous. Now you not only dis- agree with me, the history books; but also the links. 

From what you have said, I think that I can conclude that you intend to continue using Dreamer’s dirty tactic of only submitting links?     Which saves you the trouble of reading them yourself, and using your brain to think up a reasoned argument?      That is not debating, maxx.     Try and learn how to think, maxx.  

maxx

you know, based upon your ideal that the blacks and other ethic groups are at fault, i took careful time to read the following link; and i fail to see where it is the blacks fault. this is Australia racism, based on its history.   Racism in Australia - Wikipedia  @Bogan ; also mr. bogan, please look at the post i found, titled racism. in it it shows you saying sub races in humans exist. 

Bogan

@maxx

Maxx quote   you know, based upon your ideal that the blacks and other ethic groups are at fault,

Your “ideal” is that you agree with the anti white race baiters who claim that the reason why dysfunctional races are that way, is all because of white people.     As a white person, I resent this false racist accusation against my own people.   As a white person yourself, I would have thought that you too would oppose this false racist accusation against your own people?      My “ideal” as you put it, is that the reason why some races are dysfunctional, regardless of which ever white western country they inhabit, is because their collective (bell curves) of IQ are much lower than for whites and Asians, and because the proportion of people within their ranks who are genetically prone to violent behaviour is much higher than for other races, also.     This is very easy to prove to any intelligent person with an open mind.     But you can never prove anything to a person who just does not want to know. 

 

Maxx quote   i took careful time to read the following link; and i fail to see where it is the blacks fault. this is Australia racism, based on its history.   Racism in Australia - Wikipedia  @Bogan ;

 So, you read an article in wiki on Australian racism, and you "fail to see how it is the blacks “fault”?"     It just happens to be very easy to prove that (especially) pure blooded aboriginal people have very low IQ’s and are extremely violent.      I have proven it before and I can easily do it again if you wish?    Any group of people will have a low opinion of another group of people who have low IQ and who are extremely violent, and white people in Australia are no different in that respect than anybody else in the world.     Especially if the leaders of this dysfunctional group never stop blaming the people who's taxes support their indolent work free lifestyle of being the cause of their own self inflicted problems.     

 

Max quote  also mr. bogan, please look at the post i found, titled racism. in it it shows you saying sub races in humans exist. 

 What you have written is an outright ferking lie!      You are equating the scientific term “sub species” with a term of your own invention that you say is “sub races”.    That is reprehensible of you.    And indicative of a dishonest person who is losing a debate, so they will resort to telling outright lies to stay in the arena.      If you are going to tell lies, then you should at least tell credible lies, not ones which can be easily disproven. 

maxx

everyone is extremely violent. or can be. And i already agreed that they had lower intellect; you are racist to them because of their genetics. say i know some blacks who make your I.Q look plain silly. Ok for them to discriminate you because of that? @Bogan

Bogan

Maxx quote   everyone is extremely violent. or can be.

You are indirectly claiming that all races are equally violent.     Prove it.

Maxx quote   And i already agreed that they had lower intellect;

You just shot yourself in the foot.    If a race of people have lower collective IQ’s than others, then that is obviously a reason why they are so dysfunctional.

Maxx quote  you are racist to them because of their genetics.

I am hostile to any group of people who have low IQs, are extremely violent, who live of my people’s welfare, and who then blame my people for their own self inflicted social problems.     You blame your own race for their dysfunction, because it makes you feel like a superior humanitarian liberal.    This self flagellating attitude was probably conditioned (brainwashed) into your head at school by your neo Marxist teachers, who probably also told you that a man can be a woman if he puts on a dress.

Maxx quote      say i know some blacks who make your I.Q look plain silly. Ok for them to discriminate you because of that? 

They probably already do if they are smart and part of the middle class.      Class roughly equates to IQ and types of IQ.       People in the upper classes routinely look down on the “deplorables”.