Are We All In Realty All Black?

Dreamer

It is true if you go back far enough in time all are ancestors will eventually converge on Africa. Yet, this promotion of colorblind ideology can obscure racial disparities and inequities. For example that white settlers stole American Indian land and chattel slavery of Black people. The deep narrative consisting of many damaging myths and stereotypes.

https://www.eddiemoorejr.com/

Factfinder

"So there fore we can deduct that every one is really the same as black people except for there pigmentation." 

I don't think there is any disagreement there Dreamer. 

Barnardot

@Dreamer @Factfinder ;Yet, this promotion of colorblind ideology can obscure racial disparities and inequities.

It can if some one wants to take it that way but what I was getting a cross is that it should brake down the disparities. 

The disparities and inequities came about from people being ignorant and trying to make out that there is a difference between black and white people and if you slap an image like that on people then thats how they behave. I hope that showing the realty that black and white are the same or color blind as you call it actually helps bring those issues out in the open in there true prespective.

Bogan

Barnadot quote So there fore we can deduct that every one is really the same as black people except for there pigmentation. 

So therefore we can deduct that all dogs are the same so a Jack Russel can run just as fast as a Greyhound.   

Factfinder

@Bogan Come on Bogan. Are you arguing just for the sake of arguing? Barnadot is talking about dna composition, not athletic ablities. I think you knew that.

Bogan

@Factfinder ;    

Fact finder quote    Come on Bogan. Are you arguing just for the sake of arguing? Barnadot is talking about dna composition, not athletic ablities. I think you knew that.

 Since you are new here, I will fill you in on the facts of life.    Barnadot, jack, and Dee are trolls who can not debate their way out of a wet paper bag.     All they can do is insult and heckle.    Dee was such a troll that the administrator chucked him off Debate Island, but he has apparently retuned with the new avatar of “Joseph.”    One hopes he will try and lift his game, but I doubt if he can achieve that because like Barnadot and Jack, they all only seem to have double digit IQ’s.   

 I do not even try to debate against these three as I can post a carefully reasoned 1000 word submission, only for them to dismiss it entirely with a sneery one liner.   They actually think that this proves how clever they are.   This has happened so many times I just don’t bother with them anymore.   Sometimes, I amuse myself by giving them a kick whenever a head appears, and they say something that is so silly that all you can do is to shake your head in pitying wonder.        This is one of those occasions.    Barnadot is implying that the only difference between blacks and whites is their skin colour.      That is exactly like saying that since Jack Russels and Greyhounds are simply “dogs”, then they must have exactly the same physical abilities.

 ZuesAries 42 and MayCaesar are also trolls, but they have triple digit IQ’s and are much more clever about their trolling.   Both of them are exponents of the “you must prove your case, I need not prove mine” style of dishonest debating.       My opinion is, that people like these two come onto debate sites just to practice their abilities to spin a narrative, and to frustrate people who genuinely want to engage in rational debate.      

Joeseph

@Bogan


  Barnadot, jack, and Dee are trolls who can not debate their way out of a wet paper bag.     All they can do is insult and heckle.    Dee was such a troll that the administrator chucked him off Debate Island, but he has apparently retuned with the new avatar of “Joseph.”    One hopes he will try and lift his game, but I doubt if he can achieve that because like Barnadot and Jack, they all only seem to have double digit IQ’s

Translation from Bogan speak  to reality speak......  Bogan is upset that all the individuals  just mentioned called him out on his  vile hate pieces regards race and he doesn't  like it. 

Bogan is a mediocre debater with the intellectual ability of a sea sponge.

This site is plagued by far right fundies like Bogan , just sayin , Maxx who spent  their time trolling and petitioning to have Dee banned because he kept trouncing them in debate.

What's truly hilarious is the fact Bogan thinks KKK style propaganda pieces are debate......LOL 

Bogan

Yep. that's ol' Dee, all right.     I won't welcome you back.   

just_sayin

Dreamer said:

It is true if you go back far enough in time all are ancestors will eventually converge on Africa. Yet, this promotion of colorblind ideology can obscure racial disparities and inequities. For example that white settlers stole American Indian land and chattel slavery of Black people. The deep narrative consisting of many damaging myths and stereotypes.

https://www.eddiemoorejr.com/

@Dreamer,
Your history is incomplete.  All victorious civilizations conquered someone along the way.  You know who else conquered indigenous peoples and settled on their land - American Indians.  From the Federalist:

Hundreds of years before Christopher Columbus and his three ships arrived in the New World, a Native American civilization conquered neighboring tribes and expanded its political and cultural influence across what is now the central and southern United States.

Historians believe its great metropolis and ceremonial complex at Cahokia in present-day Illinois was, in the 12th century, comparable in size to contemporaneous London. The Mississippians, as they are called, were not the only indigenous American people to conquer others’ land — the Aztecs, Incans, Mayans, and Mohawks did much the same, all before Europeans arrived.

Don't these conquerors and oppressors owe reparations also?  Seems like they caused a lot of disparities by their torturing, enslaving, and killing of indigenous peoples.  

And for the record, African took more European slaves than America took African slaves:

According to Robert Davis, author of Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters, between 1 million and 1.2 million Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates and sold as slaves in North Africa and The Ottoman Empire between the 16th and 19th centuries.[1][2] 

Don't you think Africa owes Europe reparations for the million slaves it took?  Or is some slavery, good slavery in your mind?  

Even today Africans are still enslaving other Africans.  Genocide is still going on throughout the continent.  

It seems like you are either ignoring some slavery, genocide, and displacing of people groups or think some slavery, genocide and taking other's territory is good.  Which is it?  

maxx

If you click on fact finders profile. Youwillsee he joinedin 2019,  i kind of wonder who he originally was.@Bogan

Joeseph

@Bogan

Write a 350 word essay explaining why.

Barnardot

@Joeseph @Maxx ;who spent  their time trolling and petitioning to have Dee banned because he kept trouncing them in debate.

Lets be clear. You were banned because of your persistent lieing and false and spam evidence and dishonesty and out bursts. And you were petitioned by every one on this site and wont accept that you are as wanted here as much as a bake been fart in an elevator.

Barnardot

@Bogan @Factfinder ;So therefore we can deduct that all dogs are the same so a Jack Russel can run just as fast as a Greyhound.   

You speak for your self. Because We use the hole of our brains to make valued and educated conclusions

Bogan

@Barnardot ;    You speak for your self. Because We use the hole of our brains to make valued and educated conclusions


The word is "whole."      Try and learn how to spell before you come onto a debate site and tell us all how everything should be done.    

Factfinder

Hi @maxx

Yes I did join in 2019, posted once. Then after that my wife suddenly took ill. Well she had a condition that suddenly went south. Point is after she passed and I grieved her, I found I had a lot of time on my hands. One day I came across this site again but didn't recognize it until I tried to register. and the rest is history. Nothing mysterious here. 

Factfinder

Bogan said:

@Factfinder ;    

Fact finder quote    Come on Bogan. Are you arguing just for the sake of arguing? Barnadot is talking about dna composition, not athletic ablities. I think you knew that.

 Since you are new here, I will fill you in on the facts of life.    Barnadot, jack, and Dee are trolls who can not debate their way out of a wet paper bag.     All they can do is insult and heckle.    Dee was such a troll that the administrator chucked him off Debate Island, but he has apparently retuned with the new avatar of “Joseph.”    One hopes he will try and lift his game, but I doubt if he can achieve that because like Barnadot and Jack, they all only seem to have double digit IQ’s.   

 I do not even try to debate against these three as I can post a carefully reasoned 1000 word submission, only for them to dismiss it entirely with a sneery one liner.   They actually think that this proves how clever they are.   This has happened so many times I just don’t bother with them anymore.   Sometimes, I amuse myself by giving them a kick whenever a head appears, and they say something that is so silly that all you can do is to shake your head in pitying wonder.        This is one of those occasions.    Barnadot is implying that the only difference between blacks and whites is their skin colour.      That is exactly like saying that since Jack Russels and Greyhounds are simply “dogs”, then they must have exactly the same physical abilities.

 ZuesAries 42 and MayCaesar are also trolls, but they have triple digit IQ’s and are much more clever about their trolling.   Both of them are exponents of the “you must prove your case, I need not prove mine” style of dishonest debating.       My opinion is, that people like these two come onto debate sites just to practice their abilities to spin a narrative, and to frustrate people who genuinely want to engage in rational debate.      

Thank you Bogan for explaining that. 

Joeseph

@Barnardot

Lets be clear. You were banned

Let's be clear. Here I am do you know what banned even means?


 because of your persistent lieing and false and spam evidence and dishonesty and out bursts

That guy Dee sure got you guys in a twist , he's gone and you and your gang are still going on about him 24/7 


. And you were petitioned by every one on this site and wont accept that you are as wanted here as much as a bake been fart in an elevator.

It seems that you and your fellow trolls are obsessed with a guy who's left the site wow¡

Barnardot

@Bogan ;Try and learn how to spell 

So you mean like spelling Ice.Age like the fraud made up articles that you post from extreme scam websites. Is that what you mean?

Barnardot

@Joeseph ;It seems that you and your fellow trolls are obsessed with a guy who's left the site wow¡

And it not only seems but is evident that your dishonesty and lieing has retched even higher levels of disgustingness.

Barnardot

@Factfinder @BoganThank you Bogan for explaining that. 

It’s quite a compelling and uncanny account of himself really and the only thing he has changed is the names. 

But he has well and truly cooked his goose now because he’s been outed for posting fake evidence. I would say that just like Dee his days here are numbered because he is really spiraling out of control now and just gets worse.

Joeseph

@Barnardot

Wow! You're obsessed with Dee.

Joeseph

@Barnardot

Wow! Dee has left the site and you haven't stopped going on about him.

Dreamer

When there is great economic inequality harmful racist myths are needed to sustain such a system.

Bogan

Dreamer quote   When there is great economic inequality harmful racist myths are needed to sustain such a system.

 The most diabolical of which, is that white people are entirely responsible for the dysfunctional condition of black people.

Barnardot

@Bogan @Dreamer ; The most diabolical of which, is that white people are entirely responsible for the dysfunctional condition of black people.

So its a diabolical myth that white people kidnapped black people from their home lands and herded them like animals to another country where they were made in to slaves is it?

And its another diabolical myth that white people made up laws where black people had to walk on different sides of the road and go to different schools and have different toilets is it?

And its a diabolical myth that white people dressed in white gowns and cowardly white hood masks go round lunching black people is it?

And its a diabolical myth in your bigoted half brain mind that those myths would not be entirely to blame but just an incy wincy bit right?

What is a myth in realty is that people who preach such offensive damaging crap are any where near to being descent functional members of our society.

Bogan

Calm down, Barnadot.   You are starting to froth at the mouth.

Barnardot

@Bogan ;You are starting to froth at the mouth.

Me forthing at the mouth? Who is it on this site that all ways pushes his ugly bigoted agenda at every opportunity and even when theres no opportunity you just cant resist slipping in your racialist filth. Your worse than a dog with rabbis who just wont calm down.