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Why is Atheism a "cult of death?"

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Atheism does possess a moral basis; that is, immorality.

The facade of the atheist is the epitome of hypocrisy and self-deception. A spiritually and mentally ill people who proclaim the attributes of “science” as their god citing logic and reason as their corrupt motive for denying our Creator yet display cowardliness and ignorance in their inability to define origin of matter, origin of the human genome, apart from design and a mandated Designer. Atheists, a narcissistic and perverse people who mock the Holy Scriptures yet are spiritually ignorant of their Truth and the eschatological value in promoting a life of sustainable morality, ethics, values.

Atheism is the root of the demonic and has as its clueless constituency those who advocate for the mutilation of babies in the womb; the moral filth and debasement of homosexuality-lesbianism-transsexualism-child sexual mutilation in gender confusion/reassignment. Atheism is a demonically destructive religion in any society but is an especially destructive metastasizing malignancy in America’s Constitutional Republic. A hoard of demons who destroy a Nation’s soul in vulgar immoral and ethical rot. Vile and disgusting at its core…atheism, secular humanism is deserving of the Lake of Fire.




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  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6053 Pts   -  
    Well, unlike Christians, we are not talking about what happens after death all the time... So I am not sure you attributed the label to the correct group.
    FactfinderZeusAres42
  • BoganBogan 451 Pts   -  
    If somebody thinks that a telegraph pole or some ethereal spirit is a God, and it will bring him eternal life, then he or she is quite at liberty to think that way.     But if you do think that way, please do not consider people who do not think that way to have mental problems.  

    Belief in the supernatural has been part of the human condition since we first started to speak in grunts.    It was the only way that we could explain how the universe came to be.     But science today is the much better explanation, which is why so may people today reject religion.    I have even heard that a secret poll in Saudi Arabia found that most Saudi's were atheist, but it was just something I saw on Youtube and I can no longer confirm it.    
    FactfinderZeusAres42
  • Atheism does possess a moral basis; that is, immorality.

    The facade of the atheist is the epitome of hypocrisy and self-deception. A spiritually and mentally ill people who proclaim the attributes of “science” as their god citing logic and reason as their corrupt motive for denying our Creator yet display cowardliness and ignorance in their inability to define origin of matter, origin of the human genome, apart from design and a mandated Designer. Atheists, a narcissistic and perverse people who mock the Holy Scriptures yet are spiritually ignorant of their Truth and the eschatological value in promoting a life of sustainable morality, ethics, values.

    Atheism is the root of the demonic and has as its clueless constituency those who advocate for the mutilation of babies in the womb; the moral filth and debasement of homosexuality-lesbianism-transsexualism-child sexual mutilation in gender confusion/reassignment. Atheism is a demonically destructive religion in any society but is an especially destructive metastasizing malignancy in America’s Constitutional Republic. A hoard of demons who destroy a Nation’s soul in vulgar immoral and ethical rot. Vile and disgusting at its core…atheism, secular humanism is deserving of the Lake of Fire.






    This argument is flawed due to its reliance on logical fallacies, misrepresentations of atheism, and unsubstantiated claims. A more productive approach to discussing differences in belief systems is to engage with the actual principles and values held by individuals, that stem far beyond the simplistic attribution to religious or non-religious affiliations.



  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -  
    Atheism does possess a moral basis; that is, immorality.

    The facade of the atheist is the epitome of hypocrisy and self-deception. A spiritually and mentally ill people who proclaim the attributes of “science” as their god citing logic and reason as their corrupt motive for denying our Creator yet display cowardliness and ignorance in their inability to define origin of matter, origin of the human genome, apart from design and a mandated Designer. Atheists, a narcissistic and perverse people who mock the Holy Scriptures yet are spiritually ignorant of their Truth and the eschatological value in promoting a life of sustainable morality, ethics, values.

    Atheism is the root of the demonic and has as its clueless constituency those who advocate for the mutilation of babies in the womb; the moral filth and debasement of homosexuality-lesbianism-transsexualism-child sexual mutilation in gender confusion/reassignment. Atheism is a demonically destructive religion in any society but is an especially destructive metastasizing malignancy in America’s Constitutional Republic. A hoard of demons who destroy a Nation’s soul in vulgar immoral and ethical rot. Vile and disgusting at its core…atheism, secular humanism is deserving of the Lake of Fire.






    This argument is flawed due to its reliance on logical fallacies, misrepresentations of atheism, and unsubstantiated claims. A more productive approach to discussing differences in belief systems is to engage with the actual principles and values held by individuals, that stem far beyond the simplistic attribution to religious or non-religious affiliations.

    @ZeusAres42 ; Atheism is demonic at its root. It is Satan that has blinded the unbelieving (2 Corinthians 4:4)...Atheists ARE the UNBELIEVING; therefore, atheists are Satan's representatives in Time (John 8:4:4)...these are the wicked among us...these are those who froth over the murder of babies in the womb; these are those who advocate for and partake in aberrant sexual filth that defiles their own body and the society that condones their aberrant and immoral conduct. These are those who hate the righteous and those seeking honorable and sustainable mores, norms, values, through faith in Jesus Christ. Atheists are those upon whom the wrath of Elohim will be poured without measure and the atheist will be "without excuse." A horrible people in any society seeking sustainability, honor, dignity.


    ZeusAres42
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    Well, unlike Christians, we are not talking about what happens after death all the time... So I am not sure you attributed the label to the correct group.

    @MayCaesar ;  The truth is, you're decaying by the second and death is a reality and presently, in your unbelief, you're headed to the second death in Hell in your sin ...you say you don't care but intuitively you know what I tell you is truth...you have made yourself an enemy of God and you will certainly reap and sow in your arrogance and obstinance lest you repent and fully trust in Jesus as your Messiah who died for you that you can live with Him eternally. Atheism is illogical and foolish and nihilistic...


    ZeusAres42
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -  
    Bogan said:
    If somebody thinks that a telegraph pole or some ethereal spirit is a God, and it will bring him eternal life, then he or she is quite at liberty to think that way.     But if you do think that way, please do not consider people who do not think that way to have mental problems.  

    Belief in the supernatural has been part of the human condition since we first started to speak in grunts.    It was the only way that we could explain how the universe came to be.     But science today is the much better explanation, which is why so may people today reject religion.    I have even heard that a secret poll in Saudi Arabia found that most Saudi's were atheist, but it was just something I saw on Youtube and I can no longer confirm it.    

    @Bogan ;  1) Atheists don't necessarily have mental problems...they have spiritual problems and they are either demonically persuaded and/or possessed...these are evil people at their root.

    2) If you deny the supernatural, explain the presence of matter and the complex human genome using naturalistic means?

    3) Use your science to explain the origin of the Universe?

    4) The Muslim World is overwhelmingly Islamic...their Allah is Satan, the same god you serve in your atheism.


    ZeusAres42
  • Atheism does possess a moral basis; that is, immorality.

    The facade of the atheist is the epitome of hypocrisy and self-deception. A spiritually and mentally ill people who proclaim the attributes of “science” as their god citing logic and reason as their corrupt motive for denying our Creator yet display cowardliness and ignorance in their inability to define origin of matter, origin of the human genome, apart from design and a mandated Designer. Atheists, a narcissistic and perverse people who mock the Holy Scriptures yet are spiritually ignorant of their Truth and the eschatological value in promoting a life of sustainable morality, ethics, values.

    Atheism is the root of the demonic and has as its clueless constituency those who advocate for the mutilation of babies in the womb; the moral filth and debasement of homosexuality-lesbianism-transsexualism-child sexual mutilation in gender confusion/reassignment. Atheism is a demonically destructive religion in any society but is an especially destructive metastasizing malignancy in America’s Constitutional Republic. A hoard of demons who destroy a Nation’s soul in vulgar immoral and ethical rot. Vile and disgusting at its core…atheism, secular humanism is deserving of the Lake of Fire.






    This argument is flawed due to its reliance on logical fallacies, misrepresentations of atheism, and unsubstantiated claims. A more productive approach to discussing differences in belief systems is to engage with the actual principles and values held by individuals, that stem far beyond the simplistic attribution to religious or non-religious affiliations.

    @ZeusAres42 ; Atheism is demonic at its root. It is Satan that has blinded the unbelieving (2 Corinthians 4:4)...Atheists ARE the UNBELIEVING; therefore, atheists are Satan's representatives in Time (John 8:4:4)...these are the wicked among us...these are those who froth over the murder of babies in the womb; these are those who advocate for and partake in aberrant sexual filth that defiles their own body and the society that condones their aberrant and immoral conduct. These are those who hate the righteous and those seeking honorable and sustainable mores, norms, values, through faith in Jesus Christ. Atheists are those upon whom the wrath of Elohim will be poured without measure and the atheist will be "without excuse." A horrible people in any society seeking sustainability, honor, dignity.




    Seems like you have gone back to being silly again. Shame. 





  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -  
    Atheism does possess a moral basis; that is, immorality.

    The facade of the atheist is the epitome of hypocrisy and self-deception. A spiritually and mentally ill people who proclaim the attributes of “science” as their god citing logic and reason as their corrupt motive for denying our Creator yet display cowardliness and ignorance in their inability to define origin of matter, origin of the human genome, apart from design and a mandated Designer. Atheists, a narcissistic and perverse people who mock the Holy Scriptures yet are spiritually ignorant of their Truth and the eschatological value in promoting a life of sustainable morality, ethics, values.

    Atheism is the root of the demonic and has as its clueless constituency those who advocate for the mutilation of babies in the womb; the moral filth and debasement of homosexuality-lesbianism-transsexualism-child sexual mutilation in gender confusion/reassignment. Atheism is a demonically destructive religion in any society but is an especially destructive metastasizing malignancy in America’s Constitutional Republic. A hoard of demons who destroy a Nation’s soul in vulgar immoral and ethical rot. Vile and disgusting at its core…atheism, secular humanism is deserving of the Lake of Fire.






    This argument is flawed due to its reliance on logical fallacies, misrepresentations of atheism, and unsubstantiated claims. A more productive approach to discussing differences in belief systems is to engage with the actual principles and values held by individuals, that stem far beyond the simplistic attribution to religious or non-religious affiliations.

    @ZeusAres42 ; Atheism is demonic at its root. It is Satan that has blinded the unbelieving (2 Corinthians 4:4)...Atheists ARE the UNBELIEVING; therefore, atheists are Satan's representatives in Time (John 8:4:4)...these are the wicked among us...these are those who froth over the murder of babies in the womb; these are those who advocate for and partake in aberrant sexual filth that defiles their own body and the society that condones their aberrant and immoral conduct. These are those who hate the righteous and those seeking honorable and sustainable mores, norms, values, through faith in Jesus Christ. Atheists are those upon whom the wrath of Elohim will be poured without measure and the atheist will be "without excuse." A horrible people in any society seeking sustainability, honor, dignity.




    Seems like you have gone back to being silly again. Shame. 




    @ZeusAres42 ; Matthew 7, Jesus teaches to not judge in hypocrisy; when I tell you that the Atheist is a fool and a servant of the Devil...I tell you truth and judge "righteously."


    ZeusAres42
  • Atheism does possess a moral basis; that is, immorality.

    The facade of the atheist is the epitome of hypocrisy and self-deception. A spiritually and mentally ill people who proclaim the attributes of “science” as their god citing logic and reason as their corrupt motive for denying our Creator yet display cowardliness and ignorance in their inability to define origin of matter, origin of the human genome, apart from design and a mandated Designer. Atheists, a narcissistic and perverse people who mock the Holy Scriptures yet are spiritually ignorant of their Truth and the eschatological value in promoting a life of sustainable morality, ethics, values.

    Atheism is the root of the demonic and has as its clueless constituency those who advocate for the mutilation of babies in the womb; the moral filth and debasement of homosexuality-lesbianism-transsexualism-child sexual mutilation in gender confusion/reassignment. Atheism is a demonically destructive religion in any society but is an especially destructive metastasizing malignancy in America’s Constitutional Republic. A hoard of demons who destroy a Nation’s soul in vulgar immoral and ethical rot. Vile and disgusting at its core…atheism, secular humanism is deserving of the Lake of Fire.






    This argument is flawed due to its reliance on logical fallacies, misrepresentations of atheism, and unsubstantiated claims. A more productive approach to discussing differences in belief systems is to engage with the actual principles and values held by individuals, that stem far beyond the simplistic attribution to religious or non-religious affiliations.

    @ZeusAres42 ; Atheism is demonic at its root. It is Satan that has blinded the unbelieving (2 Corinthians 4:4)...Atheists ARE the UNBELIEVING; therefore, atheists are Satan's representatives in Time (John 8:4:4)...these are the wicked among us...these are those who froth over the murder of babies in the womb; these are those who advocate for and partake in aberrant sexual filth that defiles their own body and the society that condones their aberrant and immoral conduct. These are those who hate the righteous and those seeking honorable and sustainable mores, norms, values, through faith in Jesus Christ. Atheists are those upon whom the wrath of Elohim will be poured without measure and the atheist will be "without excuse." A horrible people in any society seeking sustainability, honor, dignity.




    On another topic one has to wonder like that of @MayCaesar said recently about external validation. I don't think it's external validation per-se. You obviously behave like this on every place online you go too. And there is definitely something psychologically going on here. Perhaps you are relentlessly repenting for the kids you have fiddled with in the past? @RickeyHoltsclaw?





    Factfinder



  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -   edited February 10
    Atheism does possess a moral basis; that is, immorality.

    The facade of the atheist is the epitome of hypocrisy and self-deception. A spiritually and mentally ill people who proclaim the attributes of “science” as their god citing logic and reason as their corrupt motive for denying our Creator yet display cowardliness and ignorance in their inability to define origin of matter, origin of the human genome, apart from design and a mandated Designer. Atheists, a narcissistic and perverse people who mock the Holy Scriptures yet are spiritually ignorant of their Truth and the eschatological value in promoting a life of sustainable morality, ethics, values.

    Atheism is the root of the demonic and has as its clueless constituency those who advocate for the mutilation of babies in the womb; the moral filth and debasement of homosexuality-lesbianism-transsexualism-child sexual mutilation in gender confusion/reassignment. Atheism is a demonically destructive religion in any society but is an especially destructive metastasizing malignancy in America’s Constitutional Republic. A hoard of demons who destroy a Nation’s soul in vulgar immoral and ethical rot. Vile and disgusting at its core…atheism, secular humanism is deserving of the Lake of Fire.






    This argument is flawed due to its reliance on logical fallacies, misrepresentations of atheism, and unsubstantiated claims. A more productive approach to discussing differences in belief systems is to engage with the actual principles and values held by individuals, that stem far beyond the simplistic attribution to religious or non-religious affiliations.

    @ZeusAres42 ; Atheism is demonic at its root. It is Satan that has blinded the unbelieving (2 Corinthians 4:4)...Atheists ARE the UNBELIEVING; therefore, atheists are Satan's representatives in Time (John 8:4:4)...these are the wicked among us...these are those who froth over the murder of babies in the womb; these are those who advocate for and partake in aberrant sexual filth that defiles their own body and the society that condones their aberrant and immoral conduct. These are those who hate the righteous and those seeking honorable and sustainable mores, norms, values, through faith in Jesus Christ. Atheists are those upon whom the wrath of Elohim will be poured without measure and the atheist will be "without excuse." A horrible people in any society seeking sustainability, honor, dignity.




    On another topic one has to wonder like that of @MayCaesar said recently about external validation. I don't think it's external validation per-se. You obviously behave like this on every place online you go too. And there is definitely something psychologically going on here. Perhaps you are relentlessly repenting for the kids you have fiddled with in the past? @RickeyHoltsclaw?






    @ZeusAres42 LOL...so you accuse me of pedophilia because your demon is tormented by the Truth I tell you..that is a wise and well-thought-out tactic. There is no limit to atheistic arrogance and obedience to the demon within them. 

     
  • ZeusAres42ZeusAres42 Emerald Premium Member 2763 Pts   -   edited February 10
    Atheism does possess a moral basis; that is, immorality.

    The facade of the atheist is the epitome of hypocrisy and self-deception. A spiritually and mentally ill people who proclaim the attributes of “science” as their god citing logic and reason as their corrupt motive for denying our Creator yet display cowardliness and ignorance in their inability to define origin of matter, origin of the human genome, apart from design and a mandated Designer. Atheists, a narcissistic and perverse people who mock the Holy Scriptures yet are spiritually ignorant of their Truth and the eschatological value in promoting a life of sustainable morality, ethics, values.

    Atheism is the root of the demonic and has as its clueless constituency those who advocate for the mutilation of babies in the womb; the moral filth and debasement of homosexuality-lesbianism-transsexualism-child sexual mutilation in gender confusion/reassignment. Atheism is a demonically destructive religion in any society but is an especially destructive metastasizing malignancy in America’s Constitutional Republic. A hoard of demons who destroy a Nation’s soul in vulgar immoral and ethical rot. Vile and disgusting at its core…atheism, secular humanism is deserving of the Lake of Fire.






    This argument is flawed due to its reliance on logical fallacies, misrepresentations of atheism, and unsubstantiated claims. A more productive approach to discussing differences in belief systems is to engage with the actual principles and values held by individuals, that stem far beyond the simplistic attribution to religious or non-religious affiliations.

    @ZeusAres42 ; Atheism is demonic at its root. It is Satan that has blinded the unbelieving (2 Corinthians 4:4)...Atheists ARE the UNBELIEVING; therefore, atheists are Satan's representatives in Time (John 8:4:4)...these are the wicked among us...these are those who froth over the murder of babies in the womb; these are those who advocate for and partake in aberrant sexual filth that defiles their own body and the society that condones their aberrant and immoral conduct. These are those who hate the righteous and those seeking honorable and sustainable mores, norms, values, through faith in Jesus Christ. Atheists are those upon whom the wrath of Elohim will be poured without measure and the atheist will be "without excuse." A horrible people in any society seeking sustainability, honor, dignity.




    On another topic one has to wonder like that of @MayCaesar said recently about external validation. I don't think it's external validation per-se. You obviously behave like this on every place online you go too. And there is definitely something psychologically going on here. Perhaps you are relentlessly repenting for the kids you have fiddled with in the past? @RickeyHoltsclaw?






    @ZeusAres42 LOL...so you accuse me of pedophilia because your demon is torment by the Truth I tell you..that is a wise and well-thought-out tactic. There is no limit to atheistic arrogance and obedience to the demon within them. 

     
    You know most innocent people would say (even religious ones ) something like "what t-f you talking about," "no, I aint done anything like that." What I said too close to the bone? 
    Factfinder



  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -  
    Atheism does possess a moral basis; that is, immorality.

    The facade of the atheist is the epitome of hypocrisy and self-deception. A spiritually and mentally ill people who proclaim the attributes of “science” as their god citing logic and reason as their corrupt motive for denying our Creator yet display cowardliness and ignorance in their inability to define origin of matter, origin of the human genome, apart from design and a mandated Designer. Atheists, a narcissistic and perverse people who mock the Holy Scriptures yet are spiritually ignorant of their Truth and the eschatological value in promoting a life of sustainable morality, ethics, values.

    Atheism is the root of the demonic and has as its clueless constituency those who advocate for the mutilation of babies in the womb; the moral filth and debasement of homosexuality-lesbianism-transsexualism-child sexual mutilation in gender confusion/reassignment. Atheism is a demonically destructive religion in any society but is an especially destructive metastasizing malignancy in America’s Constitutional Republic. A hoard of demons who destroy a Nation’s soul in vulgar immoral and ethical rot. Vile and disgusting at its core…atheism, secular humanism is deserving of the Lake of Fire.






    This argument is flawed due to its reliance on logical fallacies, misrepresentations of atheism, and unsubstantiated claims. A more productive approach to discussing differences in belief systems is to engage with the actual principles and values held by individuals, that stem far beyond the simplistic attribution to religious or non-religious affiliations.

    @ZeusAres42 ; Atheism is demonic at its root. It is Satan that has blinded the unbelieving (2 Corinthians 4:4)...Atheists ARE the UNBELIEVING; therefore, atheists are Satan's representatives in Time (John 8:4:4)...these are the wicked among us...these are those who froth over the murder of babies in the womb; these are those who advocate for and partake in aberrant sexual filth that defiles their own body and the society that condones their aberrant and immoral conduct. These are those who hate the righteous and those seeking honorable and sustainable mores, norms, values, through faith in Jesus Christ. Atheists are those upon whom the wrath of Elohim will be poured without measure and the atheist will be "without excuse." A horrible people in any society seeking sustainability, honor, dignity.




    On another topic one has to wonder like that of @MayCaesar said recently about external validation. I don't think it's external validation per-se. You obviously behave like this on every place online you go too. And there is definitely something psychologically going on here. Perhaps you are relentlessly repenting for the kids you have fiddled with in the past? @RickeyHoltsclaw?






    @ZeusAres42 LOL...so you accuse me of pedophilia because your demon is torment by the Truth I tell you..that is a wise and well-thought-out tactic. There is no limit to atheistic arrogance and obedience to the demon within them. 

     
    You know most innocent people would say (even religious ones ) something like "what t-f you talking about," "no, I aint done anything like that." What I said too close to the bone? 

    @ZeusAres42 ; I just consider the source and the weak moral fiber of anyone who would accuse another of such vile behavior void evidence...but hey, you're an atheist...there are NO LIMITS. When you serve the Devil...the pit is bottomless.




  • Atheism does possess a moral basis; that is, immorality.

    The facade of the atheist is the epitome of hypocrisy and self-deception. A spiritually and mentally ill people who proclaim the attributes of “science” as their god citing logic and reason as their corrupt motive for denying our Creator yet display cowardliness and ignorance in their inability to define origin of matter, origin of the human genome, apart from design and a mandated Designer. Atheists, a narcissistic and perverse people who mock the Holy Scriptures yet are spiritually ignorant of their Truth and the eschatological value in promoting a life of sustainable morality, ethics, values.

    Atheism is the root of the demonic and has as its clueless constituency those who advocate for the mutilation of babies in the womb; the moral filth and debasement of homosexuality-lesbianism-transsexualism-child sexual mutilation in gender confusion/reassignment. Atheism is a demonically destructive religion in any society but is an especially destructive metastasizing malignancy in America’s Constitutional Republic. A hoard of demons who destroy a Nation’s soul in vulgar immoral and ethical rot. Vile and disgusting at its core…atheism, secular humanism is deserving of the Lake of Fire.






    This argument is flawed due to its reliance on logical fallacies, misrepresentations of atheism, and unsubstantiated claims. A more productive approach to discussing differences in belief systems is to engage with the actual principles and values held by individuals, that stem far beyond the simplistic attribution to religious or non-religious affiliations.

    @ZeusAres42 ; Atheism is demonic at its root. It is Satan that has blinded the unbelieving (2 Corinthians 4:4)...Atheists ARE the UNBELIEVING; therefore, atheists are Satan's representatives in Time (John 8:4:4)...these are the wicked among us...these are those who froth over the murder of babies in the womb; these are those who advocate for and partake in aberrant sexual filth that defiles their own body and the society that condones their aberrant and immoral conduct. These are those who hate the righteous and those seeking honorable and sustainable mores, norms, values, through faith in Jesus Christ. Atheists are those upon whom the wrath of Elohim will be poured without measure and the atheist will be "without excuse." A horrible people in any society seeking sustainability, honor, dignity.




    On another topic one has to wonder like that of @MayCaesar said recently about external validation. I don't think it's external validation per-se. You obviously behave like this on every place online you go too. And there is definitely something psychologically going on here. Perhaps you are relentlessly repenting for the kids you have fiddled with in the past? @RickeyHoltsclaw?






    @ZeusAres42 LOL...so you accuse me of pedophilia because your demon is torment by the Truth I tell you..that is a wise and well-thought-out tactic. There is no limit to atheistic arrogance and obedience to the demon within them. 

     
    You know most innocent people would say (even religious ones ) something like "what t-f you talking about," "no, I aint done anything like that." What I said too close to the bone? 

    @ZeusAres42 ; I just consider the source and the weak moral fiber of anyone who would accuse another of such vile behavior void evidence...but hey, you're an atheist...there are NO LIMITS. When you serve the Devil...the pit is bottomless.





    You cannot dig a hole in a different place by digging the

    Factfinder



  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -  
    Atheism does possess a moral basis; that is, immorality.

    The facade of the atheist is the epitome of hypocrisy and self-deception. A spiritually and mentally ill people who proclaim the attributes of “science” as their god citing logic and reason as their corrupt motive for denying our Creator yet display cowardliness and ignorance in their inability to define origin of matter, origin of the human genome, apart from design and a mandated Designer. Atheists, a narcissistic and perverse people who mock the Holy Scriptures yet are spiritually ignorant of their Truth and the eschatological value in promoting a life of sustainable morality, ethics, values.

    Atheism is the root of the demonic and has as its clueless constituency those who advocate for the mutilation of babies in the womb; the moral filth and debasement of homosexuality-lesbianism-transsexualism-child sexual mutilation in gender confusion/reassignment. Atheism is a demonically destructive religion in any society but is an especially destructive metastasizing malignancy in America’s Constitutional Republic. A hoard of demons who destroy a Nation’s soul in vulgar immoral and ethical rot. Vile and disgusting at its core…atheism, secular humanism is deserving of the Lake of Fire.






    This argument is flawed due to its reliance on logical fallacies, misrepresentations of atheism, and unsubstantiated claims. A more productive approach to discussing differences in belief systems is to engage with the actual principles and values held by individuals, that stem far beyond the simplistic attribution to religious or non-religious affiliations.

    @ZeusAres42 ; Atheism is demonic at its root. It is Satan that has blinded the unbelieving (2 Corinthians 4:4)...Atheists ARE the UNBELIEVING; therefore, atheists are Satan's representatives in Time (John 8:4:4)...these are the wicked among us...these are those who froth over the murder of babies in the womb; these are those who advocate for and partake in aberrant sexual filth that defiles their own body and the society that condones their aberrant and immoral conduct. These are those who hate the righteous and those seeking honorable and sustainable mores, norms, values, through faith in Jesus Christ. Atheists are those upon whom the wrath of Elohim will be poured without measure and the atheist will be "without excuse." A horrible people in any society seeking sustainability, honor, dignity.




    On another topic one has to wonder like that of @MayCaesar said recently about external validation. I don't think it's external validation per-se. You obviously behave like this on every place online you go too. And there is definitely something psychologically going on here. Perhaps you are relentlessly repenting for the kids you have fiddled with in the past? @RickeyHoltsclaw?






    @ZeusAres42 LOL...so you accuse me of pedophilia because your demon is torment by the Truth I tell you..that is a wise and well-thought-out tactic. There is no limit to atheistic arrogance and obedience to the demon within them. 

     
    You know most innocent people would say (even religious ones ) something like "what t-f you talking about," "no, I aint done anything like that." What I said too close to the bone? 

    @ZeusAres42 ; I just consider the source and the weak moral fiber of anyone who would accuse another of such vile behavior void evidence...but hey, you're an atheist...there are NO LIMITS. When you serve the Devil...the pit is bottomless.





    You cannot dig a hole in a different place by digging the


    @ZeusAres42 ; Yet the atheist continues to dig.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 777 Pts   -  
    @ZeusAres42

    Sad thing is that'll go right over his head!
    ZeusAres42
  • ZeusAres42ZeusAres42 Emerald Premium Member 2763 Pts   -   edited February 11
    @Factfinder

    One thing is for certain is that this guy is pathological. His motivations are not to debate here but are grounded in in what is going on with him pathologically.  The guy needs help big time! It just won't be God that can/will save him! That is if he is fortunate enough to the get the help he needs. 
    Factfinder



  • FactfinderFactfinder 777 Pts   -  
    @ZeusAres42

    The guy claims to have a badge and a gun in Houston. Imagine the false arrest...
    ZeusAres42
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -  
    @Factfinder

    One thing is for certain is that this guy is pathological. His motivations are not to debate here but are grounded in in what is going on with him pathologically.  The guy needs help big time! It just won't be God that can/will save him! That is if he is fortunate enough to the get the help he needs. 

    @ZeusAres42 ; I'm ready to debate...put forth something related to the debate topic that can be debated...no need to hate on one-another for no reason...let's hear your best rebuttal...
  • @Factfinder

    One thing is for certain is that this guy is pathological. His motivations are not to debate here but are grounded in in what is going on with him pathologically.  The guy needs help big time! It just won't be God that can/will save him! That is if he is fortunate enough to the get the help he needs. 

    @ZeusAres42 ; I'm ready to debate...put forth something related to the debate topic that can be debated...no need to hate on one-another for no reason...let's hear your best rebuttal...
    If you are serious we can have VC debate on discord tomorrow?



  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6053 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    Well, unlike Christians, we are not talking about what happens after death all the time... So I am not sure you attributed the label to the correct group.

    @MayCaesar ;  The truth is, you're decaying by the second and death is a reality and presently, in your unbelief, you're headed to the second death in Hell in your sin ...you say you don't care but intuitively you know what I tell you is truth...you have made yourself an enemy of God and you will certainly reap and sow in your arrogance and obstinance lest you repent and fully trust in Jesus as your Messiah who died for you that you can live with Him eternally. Atheism is illogical and foolish and nihilistic...
    In one sentence you mentioned my death twice, including "second death". So which is the cult of death again?

    I have never said anything about your death. It is just not something you say to a stranger. Unless you are member of a cult of death?
    ZeusAres42
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -   edited February 11
    MayCaesar said:
    MayCaesar said:
    Well, unlike Christians, we are not talking about what happens after death all the time... So I am not sure you attributed the label to the correct group.

    @MayCaesar ;  The truth is, you're decaying by the second and death is a reality and presently, in your unbelief, you're headed to the second death in Hell in your sin ...you say you don't care but intuitively you know what I tell you is truth...you have made yourself an enemy of God and you will certainly reap and sow in your arrogance and obstinance lest you repent and fully trust in Jesus as your Messiah who died for you that you can live with Him eternally. Atheism is illogical and foolish and nihilistic...
    In one sentence you mentioned my death twice, including "second death". So which is the cult of death again?

    I have never said anything about your death. It is just not something you say to a stranger. Unless you are member of a cult of death?

    @MayCaesar ;  Atheism is the death cult...that is the subject of my response...that is why death appears consistently...you are headed to death in Hell via your atheism...

    The death of my body will simply be a transition into the presence of my Lord whereas you, in atheism, will be internement in Hades/Torments and ultimately a resurrection of the condemned and adjudication in Hell.


    ZeusAres42
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6053 Pts   -   edited February 11
    RickeyHoltsclaw said:

    @MayCaesar ;  Atheism is the death cult...that is the subject of my response...that is why death appears consistently...you are headed to death in Hell via your atheism...

    The death of my body will simply be a transition into the presence of my Lord whereas you, in atheism, will be internement in Hades/Torments and ultimately a resurrection of the condemned and adjudication in Hell.
    But if you keep talking about death and atheists do not, then is it not more sensible to call your religion a cult of death? You initiated this discussion to begin with. There is nothing about lacking belief in Christian god that suggests fascination with death, is there? 

    To me, death is just a natural event. Eventually my body and mind will decay and my organism will stop supporting itself and collapse. Until then, I have no reason to think about death at all.
    Is that not Christians who constantly talk about Jesus raising from the dead, life after death in paradise or hell, god dying for people's sins? What does it even mean to be a "Christian"? The word is a reference to the cross Jesus was crucified on... The death is in the very naming of the religion.
    ZeusAres42
  • BoganBogan 451 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw ;  . It is Satan that has blinded the unbelieving 

    You can not say that there is only one God, and then say that he has a son who is also a God, and then say that there is another God named "Satan."   . 1+1+1 equals 3.    Such glaring contradictions in logic are the reason why today, so many people are atheists.   
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -   edited February 11
    @Bogan
    Bogan said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw ;  . It is Satan that has blinded the unbelieving 

    You can not say that there is only one God, and then say that he has a son who is also a God, and then say that there is another God named "Satan."   . 1+1+1 equals 3.    Such glaring contradictions in logic are the reason why today, so many people are atheists.   

    @Bogan ;  Jesus, as the Son, is a title of endearment due the hypostatic union and delineation of authority in the Godhead and is symbolic of the inherited "rights of the first born" in Israel's culture. 

    The Holy Spirit chose the Name “Elohim” (Genesis 1:1) to introduce our Creator…a plural noun with a singular verb.

    The Holy Spirit proceeds to introduce Himself in Genesis 1:2; the Father, Son and Spirit are seen collaborating on the creation of the complex human genome (in their spiritual image) on Day-6 as “Us” and “Our;” while the Son is first introduced in Genesis 3:15 entering Time via the seed of the woman to do battle with the Devil (1 John 3:8b) via the Gospel of Grace, a divine battle strategy, which is first introduced in Genesis 3:21 with Elohim shedding innocent blood, Himself, to clothe Adam and Eve in an imputed-gifted robe of righteousness (2 Corinthians 5:21) while simultaneously denying Adam’s attempts to cover his own sin and shame by the work of his hands (Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians 2:16).

    In the first three-chapters of the Genesis, the Trinity, the Gospel, the eschatological purpose for the creation narrative, the victory of Jesus over the Devil at Golgotha (1 John 3:8b) via the Gospel, a battle strategy ordained “before Time began” (2 Timothy 1:8-10), are clearly articulated for those with eyes to see, ears to hear and a heart that is willing to believe by faith.



    ZeusAres42
  • BoganBogan 451 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    God (or Elohim if you like) is one God.
    Jesus is the son of your God, with God like properties, and who is worshipped as a God,  which makes God number 2
    Satan is also some sort of God, which makes God number three.

    You can not claim to have only one God ,if you clearly believe that there are 3.
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -   edited February 11
    Bogan said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    God (or Elohim if you like) is one God.
    Jesus is the son of your God, with God like properties, and who is worshipped as a God,  which makes God number 2
    Satan is also some sort of God, which makes God number three.

    You can not claim to have only one God ,if you clearly believe that there are 3.

    1)
    Father - Administrator
    Son - Creator, Warrior, Messiah, Judge
    Holy Spirit - Logistics

    These Three are One-Elohim sharing all deific attributes equally as One-God yet they are Three in Person, Personality, Will.

    If I could define our omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, Creator with my 3-pound brain...He would not be Elohim. 

    Elohim has clearly presented Himself within the Realm of Time as a Trinity working toward one-specific eschatological objective. To deny this, is to deny what the Holy Spirit has provided...it would be so easy and expeditious to simply say that the Father is the Son and the Spirit but this is NOT what the Holy Spirit teaches, but the Spirit teaches that Elohim is ONE and He is represented in Three Individual Persons as Father, Son and Spirit throughout the Canon of Scripture. We are free to accept this by faith or we can war against it and deny what the Holy Spirit has clearly articulated. I find peace with accepting what the Holy Spirit has said and trust Him fully.

    2) Satan has been given limited authority in this Realm of Time for the Father's eschatological purposes going forward as Satan is currently being used to separate the "wheat from the chaff" - "the sheep from the goats" as those who trust in Jesus as Messiah are the Wheat and the Sheep - those who deny Jesus as Messiah serve the "god of this World" and they are considered the Chaff and the Goats.

    The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares

    24 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ’ ” Matthew 13 (KJV)

    The Parable of the Tares Explained

    36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away and went into the house. And His disciples came to Him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the tares of the field.”

    37 He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. 39 The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. 40 Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. 41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!  Matthew 13

    The Sheep and the Goats

    31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

    34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

    37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

    40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

    41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

    44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

    45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

    46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”  Matthew 25



     

    ZeusAres42
  • BarnardotBarnardot 533 Pts   -   edited February 12
    @Bogan @RickyHoltsclaw You can not say that there is only one God, and then say that he has a son who is also a God

    Well your got to under stand that when Air Head Christians talk like that it is all spiritual talk because what there talking about is the Holy Trinity and that is all about the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost. So that's what its all about and all your got to do to under stand that concept is to cross over to the other half of your brain. But lets be realistic here. Thats not likely to happen is it?

  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -  
    Barnardot said:
    @Bogan @RickyHoltsclaw You can not say that there is only one God, and then say that he has a son who is also a God

    Well your got to under stand that when Air Head Christians talk like that it is all spiritual talk because what there talking about is the Holy Trinity and that is all about the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost. So that's what its all about and all your got to do to under stand that concept is to cross over to the other half of your brain. But lets be realistic here. Thats not likely to happen is it?


    @Barnardot ;  @ Bogan

    I am humbled by the majesty and beauty and awesomeness of our omnipotent Creator and I am at peace with the truism that my cognitive limitations due my sin-nature in Adam and my subjugation to the 2nd-law of thermodynamics, atrophy, I cannot adequately know, define, express, explain, the One who created me, for some unknown reason loves me and has an eschatological plan for me, but I do know that by honoring Him by faith in Jesus our Messiah (John 3), He has infused His Spirit within me (Ephesians 1:13-14) and my intimacy with Him is beyond words (Romans 5:1) and beyond my ability to express what flows through me in contentment and all I can say in response to Elohim's love is, I love Him and THANK YOU!. I certainly do NOT deserve it, I could not earn it...but I accept it with joy by faith.



     
    ZeusAres42
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