Why are Atheists-Secular Humanists enemies and traitors of America's Constitutional Republic?

MayCaesar

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

If you are an atheist, secular humanist, Darwinist, Evolutionist...YOU DO NOT BELONG IN THE UNITED STATES AS YOU ARE AN ENEMY OF WHAT ARE SUSTAINABLE NORMS, MORES, VALUES....GET OUT! 

I forgot to ask you where I should live my life. Now that you told me that, I will go and pack my bags. Thank you for enlightening me, oh Great One!

all4actt

First Jesus Christ is not God.  He is the son of God and never claimed to be anything other than.

If you bother to read your Bible and follow the life of Christ you will find that he prayed to God (his father) on a regular basis.  He "Forgive them father for than know not what they do." (Refering to the Roman's.

Second not all the founding fathers were Christians or even believed in God.  The majority were but not all.  Some were Deistis (what we would now refer to as Atheists.)Refer to this:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Founding-Fathers-Deism-and-Christianity-1272214
You said this in your second paragraph>>>Our Founder's desired to maximize personal freedoms and limit governmental intercession in personal lives.

This statement is true but as for the rest I have no clue where you got that from.The founders also believed in the freedom of Speach and thought as well as religion.

@MayCaesar

RickeyHoltsclaw

all4actt said:

First Jesus Christ is not God.  He is the son of God and never claimed to be anything other than.

If you bother to read your Bible and follow the life of Christ you will find that he prayed to God (his father) on a regular basis.  He "Forgive them father for than know not what they do." (Refering to the Roman's.

Second not all the founding fathers were Christians or even believed in God.  The majority were but not all.  Some were Deistis (what we would now refer to as Atheists.)Refer to this:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Founding-Fathers-Deism-and-Christianity-1272214
You said this in your second paragraph>>>Our Founder's desired to maximize personal freedoms and limit governmental intercession in personal lives.

This statement is true but as for the rest I have no clue where you got that from.The founders also believed in the freedom of Speach and thought as well as religion.

@MayCaesar

@all4actt ;  

1) Jesus is Elohim, Creator, Warrior, Messiah, Judge (Genesis 1; John 1; Hebrews 1; Colossians 1).

2) Jesus is the Son not the Father or the Spirit...Jesus and the Father are ONE-GOD (John 10:30; John 14:9).

3) The majority of America's Founders were devout Christians, some were pastors; teachers, deacons...overwhelmingly, they placed their faith in one King, Jesus.

4) Freedom of Speech is fine...but not without restraint and restrictions.

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Without Christianity, there would be no America as America was ordained by Elohim as a progenitor of the Gospel and the Great Commission and without the overwhelming majority of American citizens honoring Jesus as Lord as led by the indwelling Holy Spirit, America's Constitutional Republic will die in atheism, secularism. 

Our Founder's desired to maximize personal freedoms and limit governmental intercession in personal lives; therefore, our Founder's relied heavily upon the citizenry being "born again" by faith in Jesus and the Holy Spirit as the indwelling arbiter of the human conscience thereby thwarting unrestrained narcissism through the production of the "fruits of the Spirit" (Galatians 5:22-23); otherwise, there would be insufficient numbers of police, prosecutors, judges, jails, to maintain law and order in our experimental "Constitutional Republic." 

America's freedoms and the "way of life" envisioned by our Founder's cannot manifest in a Nation where the populous serves Satan through atheism, secular humanism, progressivism, socialism, Darwinism, abortion, LGBTQ perversion, open borders, attacks on law enforcement and the rule of law.

If you are an atheist, secular humanist, Darwinist, Evolutionist...YOU DO NOT BELONG IN THE UNITED STATES AS YOU ARE AN ENEMY OF WHAT ARE SUSTAINABLE NORMS, MORES, VALUES....GET OUT!  You are a clear and present danger to our posterity and the longevity of our Nation.

Why do you purposely lie? You know the evil cult of christianity brought, slavery, witch torture, rape and burning, high divorce rates, bad cops obsessed with harassing minorities in Houston, 90% genocides of indigenous populations, Hitler, crusades for treasure...what's so good about these christian mores and values? These are facts and you know it. Your cult has nothing to do with the rise of the United States. We emerged despite your blood thirsty cult.

RickeyHoltsclaw

Factfinder said:

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

Without Christianity, there would be no America as America was ordained by Elohim as a progenitor of the Gospel and the Great Commission and without the overwhelming majority of American citizens honoring Jesus as Lord as led by the indwelling Holy Spirit, America's Constitutional Republic will die in atheism, secularism. 

Our Founder's desired to maximize personal freedoms and limit governmental intercession in personal lives; therefore, our Founder's relied heavily upon the citizenry being "born again" by faith in Jesus and the Holy Spirit as the indwelling arbiter of the human conscience thereby thwarting unrestrained narcissism through the production of the "fruits of the Spirit" (Galatians 5:22-23); otherwise, there would be insufficient numbers of police, prosecutors, judges, jails, to maintain law and order in our experimental "Constitutional Republic." 

America's freedoms and the "way of life" envisioned by our Founder's cannot manifest in a Nation where the populous serves Satan through atheism, secular humanism, progressivism, socialism, Darwinism, abortion, LGBTQ perversion, open borders, attacks on law enforcement and the rule of law.

If you are an atheist, secular humanist, Darwinist, Evolutionist...YOU DO NOT BELONG IN THE UNITED STATES AS YOU ARE AN ENEMY OF WHAT ARE SUSTAINABLE NORMS, MORES, VALUES....GET OUT!  You are a clear and present danger to our posterity and the longevity of our Nation.

Why do you purposely lie? You know the evil cult of christianity brought, slavery, witch torture, rape and burning, high divorce rates, bad cops obsessed with harassing minorities in Houston, 90% genocides of indigenous populations, Hitler, crusades for treasure...what's so good about these christian mores and values? These are facts and you know it. Your cult has nothing to do with the rise of the United States. We emerged despite your blood thirsty cult.

@Factfinder ;  Prove me wrong, atheist.  Christianity is not a cult. Christianity fought to free the slaves...slavery has been endemic relevant to humanity since the Adamic generation. I arrested many "minorities" in Houston...everyone of them deserved jail. Without Christianity, there would be no America.  Atheism is a curse upon any people seeking good and decency and sustainability. You do NOT belong in America....

MayCaesar

It seems that the Founding Fathers had a very different idea of the relationship between the United States of America and Christianity, than the author here does.

"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth." - Thomas Jefferson

"There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites." - Thomas Jefferson

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." - Thomas Jefferson

"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it." - John Adams

"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.... During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution." - John Adams

"The way to see by Faith is to shut the Eye of Reason." - Benjamin Franklin

"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise, every expanded prospect." - James Madison

"The Bible: a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalise mankind." - Thomas Paine

"...It would be more consistent that we call [the Bible] the work of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind." - Thomas Paine

"What is it the Bible teaches us? - raping, cruelty, and murder. What is it the New Testament teaches us? - to believe that the Almighty committed debauchery with a woman engaged to be married, and the belief of this debauchery is called faith." - Thomas Paine

"Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst." - Thomas Paine




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Factfinder

@RickeyHoltsclaw

Nope. Not how it works. You made the assertion about christianty and its supposed good mores and values. I presented facts that demonstrate the opposite is true exposing christianity as the bane of humanity that it is. You offered no rebuttal evidence. Fairy elf god book and your faith don't qualify as evidence.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ;  Christian is founded, based, upon good, morality, ethics, justice, love, peace, goodness.

RickeyHoltsclaw

Jefferson was a Theist...not a Christian...as he cut and paste his own Bible and denied the essentials of the faith though he expressed the importance of Christianity as a bulwark against the Adamic sin-nature...

1) The millions of innocent men and women tortured were Christians, not by Christians.

I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others; ascribing to himself every human excellence, & believing he never claimed any other." 1813 May 31. (Jefferson to Richard Rush).

2) 1813 May 31. (Jefferson to Richard Rush). "... the subject of religion, a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his maker, in which no other, & far less the public, had a right to intermeddle."[27]

3) 1814 September 26. (Jefferson to Miles King). "I must ever believe that religion substantially good which produces an honest life, and we have been authorised by one, whom you and I equally respect, to judge of the tree by it's fruit. our particular principles of religion are a subject of accountability to our god alone. I enquire after no man's, and trouble none with mine: nor is it given to us in this life to know whether your's or mine, our friend's or our foe's are exactly the right."

4) 1816 January 9. (Jefferson to Charles Thomson). "I too have made a wee little book, from the same materials, which I call the Philosophy of Jesus. it is a paradigma of his doctrines, made by cutting the texts out of the book, and arranging them on the pages of a blank book, in a certain order of time or subject. a more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen. it is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus, very different from the Platonists, who call me infidel, and themselves Christians and preachers of the gospel, while they draw all their characteristic dogmas from what it’s Author never said nor saw. they have compounded from the heathen mysteries a system beyond the comprehension of man, of which the great reformer of the vicious ethics and deism of the Jews, were he to return on earth, would not recognise one feature. if I had time I would add to my little book the Greek, Latin and French texts, in columns side by side, and I wish I could subjoin a translation of Gassendi’s Syntagma of the doctrines of Epicurus, which, notwithstanding the calumnies of the Stoics, and caricatures of Cicero, is the most rational system remaining of the philosophy of the ancients, as frugal of vicious indulgence, and fruitful of virtue as the hyperbolical extravagancies of his rival sects."[29]

Factfinder

@RickeyHoltsclaw

Jefferson owned slaves. Christianity is the bane of humanity. 

RickeyHoltsclaw

Factfinder said:

@RickeyHoltsclaw

Jefferson owned slaves. Christianity is the bane of humanity. 

@Factfinder ; Most early land owners owned slaves..it was very commonplace...there was an agreed upon date at which time slavery would be curtailed as it was viewed as UnAmerican...Democrats refused to honor the date; hence, the Civil War. Jefferson was not a Christian, he was a theist that rejected the deity of Messiah, the Trinity, the virgin birth; fact is, you'll probably see Jefferson in Hades-Torments subsequent your last exhalation. Atheists, Secular Humanists are UNAMERICAN...they do not belong here. You vote for the Party of Slavery.