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In this great nation of ours, are FREE people allowed to travel?? The Womb Squad says NO!!!

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Holy sh*t!  They've gone over the cliff...

Republicans block bill to protect women who travel to other states for abortions. 


Du*de!


excon






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  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -  
    @jack ;  A Nation, a State, that honors our Creator and honors life has NO business advocating, assisting, in the murder of babies in the womb. If a mother makes the affirmative decision to murder, burn alive, dismember/mutilate, her baby...she and anyone assisting in that murder, should stand in adjudication for that murder both in the secular court system and in the courts of Heaven.


  • jackjack 458 Pts   -   edited February 27

    @jack ;  A Nation, a State, that honors our Creator and honors life has NO business advocating, assisting, in the murder of babies in the womb
    Hello Rickey:

    A state that honors the Constitution creates a nation of FREE people.  That's not something you want.  You once swore to protect the Constitution, and now you disavow your oath..  You're not a Marine..  Marines LOVE their country.

    Let freedom ring, let freedom ring!

    excon

  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -  
    jack said:

    @jack ;  A Nation, a State, that honors our Creator and honors life has NO business advocating, assisting, in the murder of babies in the womb
    Hello Rickey:

    That's true.  However a state that honors the Constitution, which you swore to protect, creates a nation of FREE people...  And now you wish to disavow your oath..  You're not a Marine..  Marines LOVE their country.

    Let freedom ring, let freedom ring!

    excon


    @jack ;  The Constitution guarantees the right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness as these are inalienable rights granted by our Creator; therefore, NO ONE has the right to deny life to a baby... Marines defend the Constitution...they don't advocate for the murder of babies in the womb.

    "Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception).
    "Fertilization is a sequence of events that begins with the contact of a sperm (spermatozoon) with a secondary oocyte (ovum) and ends with the fusion of their pronuclei (the haploid nuclei of the sperm and ovum) and the mingling of their chromosomes to form a new cell. This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning, or primordium, of a human being."
    [Moore, Keith L. Essentials of Human Embryology. Toronto: B.C. Decker Inc, 1988, p.2]


    "Embryo: the developing organism from the time of fertilization until significant differentiation has occurred, when the organism becomes known as a fetus."
    [Cloning Human Beings. Report and Recommendations of the National Bioethics Advisory Commission. Rockville, MD: GPO, 1997, Appendix-2.]


    "Embryo: An organism in the earliest stage of development; in a man, from the time of conception to the end of the second month in the uterus."
    [Dox, Ida G. et al. The Harper Collins Illustrated Medical Dictionary. New York: Harper Perennial, 1993, p. 146]


    "Embryo: The early developing fertilized egg that is growing into another individual of the species. In man the term 'embryo' is usually restricted to the period of development from fertilization until the end of the eighth week of pregnancy."
    [Walters, William and Singer, Peter (eds.). Test-Tube Babies. Melbourne: Oxford University Press, 1982, p. 160]


    "The development of a human being begins with fertilization, a process by which two highly specialized cells, the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female, unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote."
    [Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1975, p. 3]


    "Embryo: The developing individual between the union of the germ cells and the completion of the organs which characterize its body when it becomes a separate organism.... At the moment the sperm cell of the human male meets the ovum of the female and the union results in a fertilized ovum (zygote), a new life has begun.... The term embryo covers the several stages of early development from conception to the ninth or tenth week of life."
    [Considine, Douglas (ed.). Van Nostrand's Scientific Encyclopedia. 5th edition. New York: Van Nostrand Reinhold Company, 1976, p. 943]


    "I would say that among most scientists, the word 'embryo' includes the time from after fertilization..."
    [Dr. John Eppig, Senior Staff Scientist, Jackson Laboratory (Bar Harbor, Maine) and Member of the NIH Human Embryo Research Panel -- Panel Transcript, February 2, 1994, p. 31]


    "The development of a human begins with fertilization, a process by which the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote."
    [Sadler, T.W. Langman's Medical Embryology. 7th edition. Baltimore: Williams & Wilkins 1995, p. 3]


    "The question came up of what is an embryo, when does an embryo exist, when does it occur. I think, as you know, that in development, life is a continuum.... But I think one of the useful definitions that has come out, especially from Germany, has been the stage at which these two nuclei [from sperm and egg] come together and the membranes between the two break down."
    [Jonathan Van Blerkom of University of Colorado, expert witness on human embryology before the NIH Human Embryo Research Panel -- Panel Transcript, February 2, 1994, p. 63]


    "Zygote. This cell, formed by the union of an ovum and a sperm (Gr. zyg tos, yoked together), represents the beginning of a human being. The common expression 'fertilized ovum' refers to the zygote."
    [Moore, Keith L. and Persaud, T.V.N. Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects. 4th edition. Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1993, p. 1]


    "The chromosomes of the oocyte and sperm are...respectively enclosed within female and male pronuclei. These pronuclei fuse with each other to produce the single, diploid, 2N nucleus of the fertilized zygote. This moment of zygote formation may be taken as the beginning or zero time point of embryonic development."
    [Larsen, William J. Human Embryology. 2nd edition. New York: Churchill Livingstone, 1997, p. 17]


    "Although life is a continuous process, fertilization is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new, genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed.... The combination of 23 chromosomes present in each pronucleus results in 46 chromosomes in the zygote. Thus the diploid number is restored and the embryonic genome is formed. The embryo now exists as a genetic unity."
    [O'Rahilly, Ronan and M�ller, Fabiola. Human Embryology & Teratology. 2nd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 1996, pp. 8, 29. This textbook lists "pre-embryo" among "discarded and replaced terms" in modern embryology, describing it as "ill-defined and inaccurate" (p. 12}]


    "Almost all higher animals start their lives from a single cell, the fertilized ovum (zygote)... The time of fertilization represents the starting point in the life history, or ontogeny, of the individual."
    [Carlson, Bruce M. Patten's Foundations of Embryology. 6th edition. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1996, p. 3]


    "[A]nimal biologists use the term embryo to describe the single cell stage, the two-cell stage, and all subsequent stages up until a time when recognizable humanlike limbs and facial features begin to appear between six to eight weeks after fertilization....
    "[A] number of specialists working in the field of human reproduction have suggested that we stop using the word embryo to describe the developing entity that exists for the first two weeks after fertilization. In its place, they proposed the term pre-embryo....
    "I'll let you in on a secret. The term pre-embryo has been embraced wholeheartedly by IVF practitioners for reasons that are political, not scientific. The new term is used to provide the illusion that there is something profoundly different between what we nonmedical biologists still call a six-day-old embryo and what we and everyone else call a sixteen-day-old embryo.
    "The term pre-embryo is useful in the political arena -- where decisions are made about whether to allow early embryo (now called pre-embryo) experimentation -- as well as in the confines of a doctor's office, where it can be used to allay moral concerns that might be expressed by IVF patients. 'Don't worry,' a doctor might say, 'it's only pre-embryos that we're manipulating or freezing. They won't turn into real human embryos until after we've put them back into your body.'"
    [Silver, Lee M. Remaking Eden: Cloning and Beyond in a Brave New World. New York: Avon Books, 1997, p. 39]

  • jackjack 458 Pts   -  

    @jack ;  The Constitution guarantees the right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness as these are inalienable rights granted by our Creator;
    Hello again, Rickey:

    I don't disagree..  Abortion is a terrible thing..  But, forcing a mother to carry her baby to term is worse.

    excon
  • John_C_87John_C_87 Emerald Premium Member 865 Pts   -   edited February 27
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    It will never be in the Courts of GOD and Heaven. The truth is known by religion that the beast will be born with a sign and angels who have fallen from grace are so jealous they tell lies to women as so the creatures of demonic ends may conceive a child like a human. This is before we even get to American United States Constitutional Right entitled to women and the treats of the punishments of Treason against British law has gone on to long for them.


    Female specific amputation is not abortion, and a woman is not a slave to the state of Texas or any State, abortion criminal law is not proper legislation introduced by the Texas House of Representation and is a imported foreign law in which the State of Texas has chosen to adopted over its own and the American Constitution.


  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -  
    John_C_87 said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    It will never be in the Courts of GOD and Heaven. The truth is known by religion that the beast will be born with a sign and angels who have fallen from grace are so jealous they tell lies to women as so the creatures of demonic ends may conceive a child like a human. This is before we even get to American United States Constitutional Right entitled to women and the treats of the punishments of Treason against British law has gone on to long for them.


    Female specific amputation is not abortion.



    @John_C_87 ; You are ignorant of the Spiritual and you're not well spiritually or psychologically when you refer to the murder of children in the womb as "Female specific amputation"...those are words of Satan.


  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -   edited February 27
    jack said:

    @jack ;  The Constitution guarantees the right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness as these are inalienable rights granted by our Creator;
    Hello again, Rickey:

    I don't disagree..  Abortion is a terrible thing..  But, forcing a mother to carry her baby to term is worse.

    excon

    @jack ;  If a mother makes the affirmative decision to murder her baby...that's on her, but do NOT bring culpability upon a Nation of people for the choice of a mother who has no respect for life or your innocent baby. Government protects life as its FIRST duty...it is not present to take innocent life.


  • jackjack 458 Pts   -  
     A Nation, a State, that honors our Creator and honors life has NO business advocating, assisting,

    Hello again, Mr. Cut and Paster..

    Flood the zone with your meaningless spam but you can't HIDE from the truth that you want to IMPRISON 50% of the population of this great nation of ours, in their state, their city, their neighborhoods, or their homes - whichever one it takes in order to FORCE women to have baby's they don't want.

    Du*de!

    excon
  • John_C_87John_C_87 Emerald Premium Member 865 Pts   -   edited February 27
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

     You are ignorant of the Spiritual and you're not well spiritually or psychologically when you refer to the murder of children in the womb as "Female specific amputation"...those are words of Satan.

     Female specific amputation is not murder in the womb neither is female specific amputation abortion. They are nothing but word that form a united state between all women and exclude all men. Preaches the demon who paves a religious way for the Beast to enter unto earth by way of birth uncontested. Let alone break criminal and Constitutional law doing so. The child in the womb sacrifices its own creator by law of nature and even now goes on supported by both law and supported Catholics and Christians alike the word that comes to my witness account is morally bankrupt.


    Factfinder
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -  
    John_C_87 said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

     You are ignorant of the Spiritual and you're not well spiritually or psychologically when you refer to the murder of children in the womb as "Female specific amputation"...those are words of Satan.

     Female specific amputation is not murder in the womb neither is female specific amputation abortion. They are nothing but word that form a united state between all women and exclude all men. Preaches the demon who paves a religious way for the Beast to enter unto earth by way of birth uncontested. Let alone break criminal and Constitutional law doing so. The child in the womb sacrifices its own creator by law of nature and even now goes on supported by both law and supported Catholics and Christians alike the word that comes to my witness account is morally bankrupt.




    When a "mother" allows an abortionist to fill her womb with poison and burns a child alive or that abortionist takes a surgical implement and scrapes the mother's womb to dislodge the baby; or that abortionist uses a vacuum to suck a baby from the womb; or that abortionist physically removes a baby from the womb up to the neck and punctures the cranial mass in the upper neck and sucks the brains of the baby into a tube to crush the child's head...that is murder.

    You are spiritually and psychologically ignorant and depraved.


  • FactfinderFactfinder 777 Pts   -  
    John_C_87 said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

     You are ignorant of the Spiritual and you're not well spiritually or psychologically when you refer to the murder of children in the womb as "Female specific amputation"...those are words of Satan.

     Female specific amputation is not murder in the womb neither is female specific amputation abortion. They are nothing but word that form a united state between all women and exclude all men. Preaches the demon who paves a religious way for the Beast to enter unto earth by way of birth uncontested. Let alone break criminal and Constitutional law doing so. The child in the womb sacrifices its own creator by law of nature and even now goes on supported by both law and supported Catholics and Christians alike the word that comes to my witness account is morally bankrupt.




    When a "mother" allows an abortionist to fill her womb with poison and burns a child alive or that abortionist takes a surgical implement and scrapes the mother's womb to dislodge the baby; or that abortionist uses a vacuum to suck a baby from the womb; or that abortionist physically removes a baby from the womb up to the neck and punctures the cranial mass in the upper neck and sucks the brains of the baby into a tube to crush the child's head...that is murder.

    You are spiritually and psychologically ignorant and depraved.


    Why did you include me? I'm not for abortion like half you christians are. Why do you avoid that fact? I proved it to you.
  • John_C_87John_C_87 Emerald Premium Member 865 Pts   -   edited February 27
    @RickeyHoltsclaw
    You are spiritually and psychologically ignorant and depraved.

    So, you are still working on the religious implications that all women who criminally inchants a man for her pregnancy ( Drugs him) the man bewitchment and not knowing what he has done. Something not every one can explain how the punishment of this crime came to be fact. The more you are told understand theissue of witch craft in America and the a Unite States Constitutional connection made in America with established justice made by abortion a criminal law imported into America. There are many reasons for a female specific amputation the procedures you attempt to hold for all women as abortion with one except these procedures all are based on medical treatment for a women and posterity she holds on our behalf. It is only you who are showing signes of spirital, psychological ignorance, and depravity. You do not recognize the child you defend by religion may be the beast of revolations or you are giving only the child immunity from criminal law knowing in advance this type child has used lethal force which is not yet describe by criminal law after thousands, and thousands of years.

    Factfinder
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 159 Pts   -  
    John_C_87 said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw
    You are spiritually and psychologically ignorant and depraved.

    So, you are still working on the religious implications that all women who criminally inchants a man for her pregnancy ( Drugs him) the man bewitchment and not knowing what he has done. Something not every one can explain how the punishment of this crime came to be fact. The more you are told understand theissue of witch craft in America and the a Unite States Constitutional connection made in America with established justice made by abortion a criminal law imported into America. There are many reasons for a female specific amputation the procedures you attempt to hold for all women as abortion with one except these procedures all are based on medical treatment for a women and posterity she holds on our behalf. It is only you who are showing signes of spirital, psychological ignorance, and depravity. You do not recognize the child you defend by religion may be the beast of revolations or you are giving only the child immunity from criminal law knowing in advance this type child has used lethal force which is not yet describe by criminal law after thousands, and thousands of years.


    @John_C_87 ; You are NOT psychologically well.
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