Is Islam A Religion Of Peace?

JulesKorngold

The position of the Muslim community in the face of all provocations seems to be: Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn't, we will kill you.

Sam Harris

JulesKorngold

It is time we admitted that we are not at war with “terrorism.” We are at war with Islam.

Sam Harris

JulesKorngold

The idea that Islam is a “peaceful religion hijacked by extremists” is a dangerous fantasy—and it is now a particularly dangerous fantasy for Muslims to indulge in. It is not at all clear how we should proceed in our dialogue with the Muslim world, but deluding ourselves with euphemisms is not the answer.  It now appears to be a truism in foreign policy circles that real reform in the Muslim world cannot be imposed from the outside.  But it is important to recognize why this is so—it is so because the Muslim world is utterly deranged by its religious tribalism. 

Sam Harris

JulesKorngold

Any debate about whether Islam really teaches, at its core, a worldview that justifies the barbarism of Hamas, is a fake debate because Islam does teach this. And much depends on the majority of Muslims worldwide reframing and ignoring, or otherwise relinquishing some of the core tenets of Islam. Because they are absolutely at odds with our common project of building open, pluralistic societies. Acknowledging this and demanding that Muslims themselves acknowledge this is not bigotry. It is basic sanity.

Sam Harris

Barnardot

@JulesKorngold ;it is so because the Muslim world is utterly deranged by its religious tribalism. 

Well we should thank goodness that there no where near as bad as the Yids who are so deranged and violent that they have to knock off 30 times as many Muslims as the Muslims did to them just because of retalliation. They havent known the meaning of peace ever since they think they owned the world 48 years ago.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@JulesKorngold ;

Islam’s “Allah” is Satan masquerading as an angel of light via the Arabic moon god. Islam was founded by a 7th-Century nomadic demon possessed pedophile murdering thief named Muhammad who plagiarized the Torah to construct the Quran. Islam is a demonic cult of death.

Islam’s root is the act of adultery between Abraham and Hagar producing the “wild ” of a man named Ishmael, the father of the Islmaelites who are the progenitor of Muhammad. Islam is Satan’s presence within the Realm of Time.

JulesKorngold

@Barnardot
When are you planning your suicide?  Please make it soon.

Factfinder

@JulesKorngold

I would say martyrdom is OVERVALUED in the Koran, not just valued. But yes I agree. Islam is not a religion of peace. It's like it took the worst parts of Christianity and ran with it.

Barnardot

@RickeyHoltsclaw ;Islam’s root is the act of adultery between Abraham and Hagar producing the “wild ” of a man named Ishmael

And Christianities root is the act of incest between Eve and Cain and proberly gave birth to a mutant tard. So if your keeping a score board of which religion is the most worse how would you score your latest dig in comparison? I would say 10 bad points for Muslim and 1000 bad points for Christians.

Barnardot

@JulesKorngold ;When are you planning your suicide?  Please make it soon.

Well thats the hole idea really. If your got terminal cancer you should be able to plan your exit on your terms and on your time table rather than be like religious dweebs who say like. Oh Ill wait for God to take me because he knows when. So after going through months or years of pain and suffering by not only you but all your friends and rellos you die only to find that there is no God. So a fat lot of use that is. 

So thats why when I have made up my mind to go because of a terminal illness I will do it sooner rather than later. Ill get my affairs in order, especially the affair with my sister in law then ride a Harley off a cliff and shout oh yeah.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Barnardot ; We're all the product on intermarrying of family members "in the beginning" as it was not incest until the genome suffered sufficient degradation to initiate physiological and psychological defects at which time Elohim forbid, through the Levitical Law, the intermarrying up to a certain degree of relationship. You are currently the product of Satan's (Allah's) deceit in your life as you've opted to side with Satan and follow him to Hell.

Barnardot

@RickeyHoltsclaw ;We're all the product on intermarrying of family members "in the beginning" 

Soooo I wasn’t disputing that and I’m not disputing about Mohammad doing lots of women. And any way many Christian’s practice bigamy and say it’s Gods will.

What I’m saying is what’s worse . Muslims committing adultery or Christian s practicing both adultery and incest. In fact when you analize the hole of Christianity a cross the bored you will see that it is the most perverted and violent and hateful religion by far.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Barnardot ; Islam is a demonically founded religious cult which is bred in sin and death and serves the same god as you in your atheism, birds of feather. 

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Barnardot ; Islam is a demonically founded religious cult which is bred in sin and death and serves the same god as you in your atheism, birds of feather. 

Christianity is a demonically founded religious cult which is bred in sin and death and serves the same god as you in your theism, birds of feather. 

Bogan

Islam is an evil religion which should be openly discriminated against in Australia, for the purpose of (hopefully) eradicating it.

 Islam is not just a religion, it is a complete social system (legal, dietary, political, and religious) system rolled up into one.    The most telling indictment of this evil religion, is that those nations which are the most ardent in following it in its most pure form, are exactly the same strife prone cesspits holding out the begging bowl while causing so much trouble in this world.     Muslim countries are places where doctors and aid workers get murdered, or are flung into dungeons by Kalashnikov toting crazies, for the crime of trying to prevent the locals from starving to death.

 Muslim countries should be wealthy countries.     Many of them are literally floating on oceans of oil.     Two of them (Egypt and Iraq) posses two of the worlds most fertile river systems.      Many of the world’s most revered archeological treasures exist within the boundaries of the Muslim world, but persistent grenade and bomb attacks upon tourists by Islam’s most ardent supporters has seen tourism dwindle.     Then there was the Taliban who managed to blow up the fabulous 1,500 year old Babiyan Buddha's which could have attracted planeloads of pilgrims.      Real smart, huh?      I guess that comes from breeding with your cousins for generations.

 The evil nature of Islam is revealed in its teachings, from its Koran and from the actions of its Prophet.     The religion was invented by a genocidal  pedophile warlord called Mohammad,  who kept an 9 year old Jewish sex slave wife (Aisha), and who spread his religion by the simple expedient of killing anyone who did not become a Muslim.     This extreme hostility to non Muslims is a singular characteristic of Islam, and it is validated by many verses in the Koran.     These verses demand that its adherents must understand that non Muslims are not quite human, must never be trusted, can be lied too, and that a good Muslim must maintain total social separation from Kuffar (non Muslim) inferiors.      Think of the Ku Klux Klan or Nazi Germany inventing their own religions, and you got Islam.

 It is a religion which validates the idea that a man should beat his wife, and even helpfully recommends the length and width of the rod which a good Muslim man should use to do the job.     It is a religion which validates the idea that Muslims who turn away from Islam should be murdered, and there are some Muslim countries where that is in fact the written law, and many others where the practice is widespread, although not openly admitted to in that countries law.    Any religion which validates the murder of apostates is pure evil.

 Here in Australia, it can be deduced that whatever virtues the Islamic faith bestows upon its adherents, respect for law, honesty, non violence, and a work ethic do not appear to be the most prominent.     Muslims are very disproportionately involved in crimes of violence and drug trafficking, and are also seriously overrepresented in welfare dependency.     The state of NSW’s biggest police division is the Middle Eastern Crime Taskforce.  

 That Muslims are a danger to Australian society can be seen from the behaviour and the statement of the former head Muslim in Australia, Sheik (cat meat) Hilali.    When not praising suicide bombers, or heaping scorn on Australians, he indirectly told his flock that if an Australian women gets raped by a Believer, she has no one to blame but herself, because she did not adhere to the standards of behaviour of the Islamic world.     One of the 70 girls gang raped at the time of the 2000 Olympics (Megan) replied to the Sheik’s suggestion by saying “I used to tell people that what happened to me had nothing to do with Islam, now Sheik al Hilaly has proven me wrong.”

 Throughout the world, most religions today can more or less get along with one another, but no religion has ever been able to get along with Islam.    The rule of thumb appears to be that when Muslims reach about 5% of a population, then you have got real problems.    Far from having a happy multicultural society, you end up with a Balkanized society with a Muslim monoculture in one particular area demanding Sharia law, from which the people of all other cultures have fled in terror.

 If this is the vision splendid that you dream about for a multicultural world, Barnadot, then may you live in interesting times.

Barnardot

@Bogan ;If this is the vision splendid that you dream about for a multicultural world, Barnadot, then may you live in interesting times.

Well you might call it a vision but in fact its the realty.

US and Ossie Land are countries founded on multi culuralism and are more peace full than countires who only have there one own culture. When the hole world is finally multi cultural. And this is happening weather you like it or not then the hole world will be at peace with it self because we all respect each others culture and up bringings. 

Sure there will all ways be half brains who try to make out that any one who is not like them is dum and evil and for no reason at all. Only that they are still restling with there own demons because they got knocked a round by there parents or got picked on or wet there beds well in to there teens.

Barnardot

@Factfinder @RickyHoltsclaw ;Christianity is a demonically founded religious cult which is bred in sin and death and serves the same god as you in your theism, birds of feather. 

Here here is what I say Every religion claims to be the one and only true hole some and peace ful religion and that all the others are scum.

Sure we get rivalry in football where every supporter reckons there club is the best and all the others are just dum scum. But thats just friendly rivalry on the hole. Sports fans dont go round ripping off the heads of there rivals just so they can try and prove who has the best imaginary friend.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Barnardot ; @Factfinder Christianity is, theologically speaking, not a "religion" but a relationship with our Creator via the Gospel that was ordained "before Time began." Christianity offers humanity the ONLY Path to life; that is, Jesus as our Messiah who suffered and died in our place that we can receive forgiveness of sin and life through faith in Jesus as our Messiah by faith.

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Barnardot ; @Factfinder Christianity is, theologically speaking, not a "religion" but a relationship with our Creator via the Gospel that was ordained "before Time began." Christianity offers humanity the ONLY Path to life; that is, Jesus as our Messiah who suffered and died in our place that we can receive forgiveness of sin and life through faith in Jesus as our Messiah by faith.

 Christianity is, theologically speaking, is a "religion" and a a looney one pretending to have a relationship with our Creator via the fairytale elf god book that was ordained "before Time began." Christianity offers humanity the ONLY Path to misery; that is, Jesus as our mythical dunce  who fake suffered and died in our place that we can receive forgiveness of sin and life through faith in Jesus as our dunce by faith.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; Relationship with your Creator only sounds "looney" to the spiritually dead headed to death in Hell via spiritual ignorance. Your "day" is approaching with rapidity.

Barnardot

@RickeyHoltsclaw ; @Factfinder Christianity is, theologically speaking, not a "religion" but a relationship with

And here we go again and how many times do we here that peace of evasive crap.

Our belief is not a religion on no sirreee not at all. See our belief is special and it is real and about relation ships not like all those religions out there cause there bad and evil but my belief is pure and good and hole some. 

And what I say to that is your just the same as all other religions and all other religions say exactly the same dogs puke that you just spewed up.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Barnardot ; Please use @RickeyHoltsclaw so I receive your input...your quotation does not notify me of your atheistic drivel.

Atheism is a religion based in the demonic and Hell and filth...its adherents are fools and perverts and infanticide advocates. Jesus as your Messiah is your only Hope for life in eternity; otherwise, you will die in your sin in atheism and die in Hell, eternally (John 8:24).

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Barnardot ; Please use @RickeyHoltsclaw so I receive your input...your quotation does not notify me of your atheistic drivel.

Atheism is a religion based in the demonic and Hell and filth...its adherents are fools and perverts and infanticide advocates. Jesus as your Messiah is your only Hope for life in eternity; otherwise, you will die in your sin in atheism and die in Hell, eternally (John 8:24).

Atheism rejects all religions and their gods on the bases it's all proven fabrications of the human mind. Religion=delusion.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; Please prove Christianity incorrect so I too can be an atheist? Please?

Barnardot

@RickeyHoltsclaw ;Atheism is a religion based in the demonic and Hell and filth

Well of course you are going to exstreams with that observation because in realty Im sure you can work out that all your saying is that because your not in my group your a peace of scum. If there is any thing that bases it self on the demonic and Hell and filth its religion. Take the Bible for example. Every second page is absessed with things about Satan and demons and hell and filth. Do Atheists ever mention demons and hell and filth? No there not because they are not continuously drawn in to there selves where they think about such crap a good deal of the time.

Atheists in general are positive and dont go round thinking such morbid crap about others and thinking filthy perverted things about them.

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ; Please prove Christianity incorrect so I too can be an atheist? Please?

Prove it's not a fairytale that I may be a theist. LOL

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; All one must do is read "The Gospel of John" with a heart that is willing to believe.

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ; All one must do is read "The Gospel of John" with a heart that is willing to believe.

But that's no litmus test for truth. Education trumps indoctrination every time. It's ok to think, god don't exist, you won't go to hell, you don't have to remain idiotic for its sake.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; Today's "education" is primarily "indoctrination."

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ; Today's "education" is primarily "indoctrination."

Today's education is informative where as bible verses make one self willed stoopid.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; The Bible provides the greatest and most beneficial "education" a young man or woman can receive...

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ; The Bible provides the greatest and most beneficial "education" a young man or woman can receive...

The Bible provides the greatest and most unbeneficial "indoctrination" a young man or woman can receive...

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; Indoctrination in sustainable mores, norms, values, are a great asset to a successful life of honor and dignity.

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder ; Indoctrination in sustainable mores, norms, values, are a great asset to a successful life of honor and dignity.

It made you a self willed hateful undignified buffoon with no faith to move the smallest of mountains.

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder I disagree....I simply tell you the Truth, something you sissified progressive socialists atheists are not used to hearing.

Factfinder

RickeyHoltsclaw said:

@Factfinder I disagree....I simply tell you the Truth, something you sissified progressive socialists atheists are not used to hearing.

Nope. you still produce the fruit of a self willed hateful undignified buffoon with no faith to move the smallest of mountains. 

RickeyHoltsclaw

@Factfinder ; You interpret Truth as hate because your atheistic demon hates the Truth.