I'm from Britain but am austrailian/english in my background. I live in the us illigally with a mansion and a gater meat farm but my whole bloomin life is here. You can't just throw me out like a DOG! I pay taxes! And now trump thinks he can just THORW ME OUT! I'll nife im' if he knocks on my door.
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If the U.S. immigration laws make an exception for you...then there has to be an exception for everyone. If the rules don't apply to you...then they can't apply to everyone. No one gets special treatment because they've managed to avoid being caught for an extended period of time. Is it illegal to immigrate to the United States without going through the proper channels? The answer is yes, it is illegal. Should the laws of this country not apply to you because you pay taxes and haven't been caught? To answer this I'll ask you this:
Is it illegal to steal a motor vehicle in the United States? The answer is yes, it is illegal. Should you be exempt from legal recourse because you pay taxes and haven't been caught stealing cars yet? .......No.....you shouldn't be exempt. Nor should people who are illegal immigrants be exempt from the laws of our country just because they pay taxes and haven't been caught. The law is the law no matter how big or substantial your sob story is.
"There's going to be a special place in Hell for people who spread lies through the veil of logical fallacies disguised as rational argument".
"Oh, you don't like my sarcasm? Well I don't much appreciate your stup!d".
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The fact is there is not a single logical reason to deport people. It costs billions of dollars and the end result is that America is made poorer and a family has lost their home and whole life.
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"A communist is like a crocodile" ~Winston Churchill
We're born alone, we live alone, we die alone. Only through our love and friendship can we create the illusion for the moment that we're not alone.~Orson Welles
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Are you a land owner or are you just living on someone's land. I don't know the immigration laws, but if you've invested in property I would think getting and extension on your passport or green card would be easy. Regardless, one has to do the right thing and obey law. That would all you to live a stress free life, and having to worry about if you're going to get deported.
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"Any alien present in the U.S is deportable"
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Until you posted this, you were safe. Now 'they' know. You just told the government who you are and what you're doing by sending this at this time and date from the IP you sent it from. Well done, .
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Should you be thrown out from the moral standpoint, however? This is a much more subjective question. In my opinion, the mechanisms should be created that will allow easy naturalization for people like you, who, while having arrived here illegally, have lived here for many years and at this point are Americans in everything but the legal status.
I am an immigrant myself, from a country from which it is pretty difficult to immigrate here legally, both due to the limited finances most people possess, and the diplomatic relations between that region and the US. While I do not approve of immigrating illegally and I do believe that there is always a legal way to be found, if requiring a lot of effort to be used successfully - I understand people who, having nothing to lose and having had enough of their third world hole, decide to go for it and cross the border regardless of the consequences. While breaking the law should never be tolerated, it is important to accept the fact that such people will always exist and will often even benefit the economy. We need to create mechanisms that will take the harsh reality into account and not the idyllic utopia full of law abiding citizens. Naturalization mechanisms for illegal immigrants who have lived here for many years should and must be created - this is the only true way to solve the problem of illegal immigration. Trying to make crossing the border harder and deporting illegal immigrants easier could have a limited success, but it could also do a lot of harm, as we deport the people who have become an integral part of the American economy and have contributed to the growth of the pie.
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It is not nearly that easy. In fact, for the vast majority of arrivals there is no clear path to naturalisation. You cannot just "apply" to become a citizen out of the blue. I mean, you can try going to the immigration services office and filling an application - but it will be a complete waste of your time, since the background check will reveal that you do not satisfy the naturalisation requirements.
I have lived in the US for almost 5 years now. I have a prestigious position at one of the top US universities. I pay all the taxes. My English is better than my mother tongue. I donate quite a bit of money for charity. My financial record is impeccable, with 0 late payments and low debt amounts.
And yet, I am not eligible even for the Permanent Residence status, let alone citizenship. And I am in a very good position, compared to the vast majority of even legal, let alone illegal, arrivals.
Making naturalisation possible and easy for those people who have been here for a while and, aside from their formal status, are no different from the average American citizen in any way - would make life much better both for the immigrants, and for the nation as a whole. There was a proposal a while ago, before all the anti-immigration rhetoric hit the fan, to grand permanent residence to every immigrant who has a higher education degree from a certified university and who has lived on the US soil for 5+ years. It could very well have come through, were it not for the sudden change of the mood in the country.
I am not saying that everyone who broke the law should be forgiven. However, in every civilised legal system, including the American one, the concept called "statute of limitations" exists. Basically, it states that if the person has not been prosecuted for the crime for the specified period of time, then it expires and can no longer lead to infliction of any penalty on the individual.
I am not sure what such period should be for the illegal border crossing, but it definitely should exist. If someone has lived here for 10 years and was, with the exception of the act of border crossing, a perfectly law-abiding individual, then it only makes sense to grant them a legal status: whether you like it or not, they are fully American at that point, regardless of who and what they were in the past.
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If someone broke into your house, and then refused to leave because they were paying your light bill, would that entitle them to stay? Would that make the break-in legal?
Where do people get these absurd arguments?
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No, but it could be seen as restitution of damage. If someone stole my car, but then agreed to return it and give me a huge extra compensation, then I would let it slide, and the court might decide that the case has been exhausted as well.
If the result of someone passing through the US border illegally was that they benefited the country immensely, without harming anyone, then what exactly is the problem here? Victimless crimes should not be a thing in general, in my opinion, but even if we assume that there is nothing wrong with them, in this case it is just practical to legalise people who have benefited the economy tremendously, so they can benefit it even more.
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