This debate is about the effectiveness of PCR testing.
"The polymerase chain reaction (PCR) is a method widely used to make millions to billions of copies of a specific DNA
sample rapidly, allowing scientists to amplify a very small sample of
DNA (or a part of it) sufficiently to enable detailed study."
Basic info on PCR linked above.
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Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed [January 2020] and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/µL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen. (emphasis added, page 40)
Compare the above statement to the CDC January 28th, 2020 advisory confirming the isolation of SARS-CoV-2:
On January 20, 2020, CDC received a clinical specimen collected from the first reported U.S. patient infected with SARS-CoV-2. CDC immediately placed the specimen into cell culture to grow a sufficient amount of virus for study.
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If you care to continue this discussion, I'll post each Freedom of Information Act request to the various health organizations alleged to be in possession of data or information related to isolation of the virus. Then I'll post their responses. And all you have to do is understand what "not in possession of" means.
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However, an official CDC document, (dated July 21, 2021) entitled “CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel reads as follows:
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“There are now hundreds of stocks of cultured SARS-CoV-2 in laboratories around the world.”
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So far, that has turned out to be a lie. There is a list of well over a hundred medical institutions, organizations, offices, and individuals who've admitted to not being in possession of the virus, but only after they were forced to respond to a submitted FOIA request. The list continues to grow.
And this from the CDC in November of 2020 through FOIA request.:
"A search of our records failed to reveal any documents pertaining to your request."
Public Health Agency of Canada (and another from Public Health Agency of Canada, this one re the alleged “UK variant” aka “B.1.1.7” aka “Alpha”; and another from Public Health Agency of Canada re any alleged virus/variant, and another from Public Health Agency of Canada re ANY type of alleged virus at all), Health Canada (and another from Health Canada; and another from Health Canada), the National Research Council of Canada, Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization-International Vaccine Centre (VIDO-InterVac), Canadian Institutes of Health Research, Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada, Patented Medicine Prices Review Board Canada, Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), Public Health Ontario, Ontario Ministry of Health (and another from Ontario Ministry of Health re “delta variant”, University Health Network, Ontario Ministry of the Solicitor General and Ontario Provincial Police, Alberta Ministry of Health, Alberta Premier Jason Kenney, his Office and Executive Council, Calgary Police Service, Institut National de Sante Publique du Quebec (another from Public Health Quebec), British Columbia’s Ministry of Health (re “the UK variant”) (another from British Columbia’s Ministry of Health), British Columbia’s Centre for Disease Control, British Columbia’s Provincial Health Services Authority (2 responses, 1 re “SARS-COV-2”, 1 re the alleged “B.1.1.7” aka “Alpha variant” aka “UK variant”), Vancouver Coastal Health Authority (re “B.1.1.7” aka “Alpha variant” aka “UK variant”), Newfoundland Labrador Department of Health & Community Services, New Brunswick’s Department/Ministry of Health, McGill University, University of Ottawa, University of Waterloo, Dalhousie University, University of Guelph, University of British Columbia, the City of Toronto, Toronto Police (and another from Toronto Police), Halton Region, Hamilton Police Service (Ontario), Halton Regional Police Service (Ontario), the Region of Peel (Ontario), Region of Durham (Ontario); KFL&A Public Health (Kingston, Frontenac, Lennox and Addington, Ontario, re “any variant”), Grey Bruce Health Services, Grey Bruce Health Unit, Simcoe Muskoka Health Unit, Niagara Regional Police Service, Peterborough Public Health (Ontario) (and another from Peterborough Public Health), Peterborough Police Service (Ontario) (another from Peterborough Police), City of Peterborough (Ontario) Aylmer Police Service (Ontario) (and another from Aylmer Police), Woodstock Police Service (Ontario), Sudbury Police Service (Ontario), Hastings Prince Edward Public Health (Ontario), the Town of Collingwood, the University of Toronto (another from U of Toronto), Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre, McMaster University and Mount Sinai Hospital (Toronto) (note that researchers from the last 4 institutions had publicly claimed to have “isolated the virus”, as had VIDO-Intervac).
Every institution has failed to provide or cite even 1 record describing the isolation aka purification of the alleged “COVID-19 virus” directly from a patient sample that was not first adulterated with other sources of genetic material. (Those other sources are typically monkey kidney aka “Vero” cells and fetal bovine serum).
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The list shown below was current as of October 5, 2021; it’s much longer now.
(Yes, we are aware of the many publications wherein authors claim to have “isolated the virus”. We’ve looked at numerous such studies and have yet to see one where they actually did so. Claiming to have done something and actually doing it are sometimes 2 different things, even in peer-reviewed science.
This is the guy from one of your links:
“There are now hundreds of stocks of cultured SARS-CoV-2 in laboratories around the world.”
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