There seems to be a lot of talk going on this site about people who compulsively lie and use dishonest tricks to try and make up for not being able to debate properly. But thats the way it goes and theres no real damage done.And if any one is so dum enough as to believe these slimmy types then they have to blame them selves.
But what about in general society. How much does it cost us every day when dishonest people tell lies for there own gain and con people into scams especially on the internet?
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It is very different in societies where such trust is absent and people systematically lie to each other. I would argue that this is the central feature of Russia that makes it an Eastern civilization fundamentally: people are used to being screwed over by the government, the sellers, the employers, even the spouses - so, rather than openly trading, people are stuck playing a zero-sum game with each other, where everyone is trying to "win" and make everyone else "lose". The society becomes hierarchical, where the way to get on top is to bring others beneath you. Hence the history of corrupt totalitarian states, bloody civil wars, serfdom, domestic abuse and uncontrolled crime.
Dishonesty is most apparent when people directly lie to each other for immediate gain - but it can also be a more creeping phenomenon. When people stop speaking their mind out of fear of being misunderstood or chastised. "Political correctness" on the West is one example of that: people increasingly are afraid to say what they really think if it goes against the rapidly changing and tightening norms. The issue is that you can never trust that what you hear from someone is what they really think. Your romantic partner tells you she loves you, but because she is used to saying things in order to please people, she might not really mean it, and this realization drives you crazy. It takes a special degree of stubbornness to still maintain that childhood trust we had for our parents and apply it to other people under such conditions. You have to be willing to get burned every now and then in exchange for cultivating great mutually beneficial relationships with the few with whom it pays off royally.
Then, we have some people who just do not know what a proper conversation is... They think that someone saying something they do not like is an indication of dishonesty. Well, that is a different phenomenon, and they only have themselves to blame for being deprived of good conversation partners. Being unable to trust others because they are known to be systematically dishonest, and being unable to trust others because of your inner paranoid demons, are two different things.
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Are you sure many smokers aren’t just committing suicide? We have no real idea of all the effects of the carcinogenic chemicals placed in tobacco and what they can do to a person’s mental health.
The same might go for many of the covid cases as well ?
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