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That's not the topic. Start a thread then maybe I'll school you again. But you'd have to look up 'diatribe' as me calmly exposing the foolishness of Christianity with logic, truths and reality is what happens to be an affront to self willed ignorant theists. A by product of truth humbly. On the other hand read your posts and you'll see a perfect examples of delusional diatribes.
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But only 1 is to you.
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**Again, Elohim, allowed Israel to take into the fold those who were destitute and victims of war...if this is somehow repugnant to you as it feeds your seared and demonically debased conscience...that is YOUR business...enjoy that.**
Stop deflecting and denying the word of your pro slavery god ,reas the verse again what part of " you may buy slaves " don't you understand?
What part of "they are you property "are you struggling with ?
Yes slavery is repugnant to me yet you say to find the verse above repugnant makes one "demonically debased " clearly demonstrating how f- cked in the head you are.
You got beaten yet again , pretending your god never said something he clearly states demonstrates that you actually lie for him.
Leviticus 25:44-46
**I am very disappointed in the Black culture in the United States who willingly fell victim to Democrat-Progressive deception. **
Yes I know you admitted you hate blacks it is part of what you are as you hate most everyone including yourself which is why you attempt to use the bible to justify your hatred towards others as no one hates like your god.
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1 : So why did you constantly deny your god approves of owing people as property?
It's rather telling you're not offended by your god approving of selling children into slavery yet you're attacking me for calling it out.
2 Yes we know you're an admitted bigot and racist ........at last Rickey admits he approves of slavery and racism.just like his primitive pro slavery ancestors.
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Elohim does not desire that slavery exist
Yet he laid down the rules for buying people as property and even rules for selling a and beating your slaves , why do you keep denying your own gods words?
I prefer peace and love and genuine respect for others...
You don't, from day one here you have heaped insult and hate on anyone who isn't a Mormon like you. You're actually a compulsive li-r.
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Elohim does not desire that slavery exist
Yet he laid down the rules for buying people as property and even rules for selling a and beating your slaves , why do you keep denying your own gods words?
I prefer peace and love and genuine respect for others...
You don't, from day one here you have heaped insult and hate on anyone who isn't a Mormon like you. You're actually a compulsive li-r.
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ARGUMENT TOPIC : RICKEY CAUGHT LYING AGAIN AND ACTUALLY DENYING HIS GODS OWN WORDS
Elohim does not desire that slavery exist
Yet he laid down the rules for buying people as property and even rules for selling a and beating your slaves , why do you keep denying your own gods words?
I prefer peace and love and genuine respect for others...
You don't, from day one here you have heaped insult and hate on anyone who isn't a Mormon like you. You're actually a compulsive li-r.
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But none for non Hebrew slaves.
Elohim also says you may buy your slaves from foreign nations they are your property for life , you may, beat sell and do as you wish with them , your children can inherit them , you've already admitted your ok with this so why are you deflecting again?
Are you not a bit embarrassed falling to your knees to worship your bullying thug of a god?
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We find many other examples of harsh slavery from cultures throughout the world. At any rate, these few examples indicate that harsh slavery was/is a reality, and in all cases, is an unacceptable act by biblical standards.
In light of such rules, slaves/servants in Israelite culture came about by their own actions, whether from among the Israelites or neighboring cultures.
In fact, take note of the punishment of Egypt, when the Lord freed the Israelites (Exodus chapters 3–15). God predicted this punishment well in advance:
Had God not protected slaves/bondservants by such commands, then many people surrounding them, who did have harsh slavery, would have loved to move in where there were no governing principles as to the treatment of slaves. It would have given a “green light” to slave owners from neighboring areas to come and settle there. But with the rules in place, it discouraged slavery in their realm.
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ARGUMENT TOPIC: RICKEY STILL CONTRADICTING HIS GODS OWN WORDS
At any rate, these few examples indicate that harsh slavery was/is a reality, and in all cases, is an unacceptable act by biblical standards.
Stop lying heres your god in his own words saying it's perfectly acceptable to own people as property but never treat Israelis like this .
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
YOU LOST AGAIN
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Exodus 21
2 If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything.
3 If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him.
4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free.
5 But if the servant declares, ‘I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,’
6 then his master must take him before the judges. He shall take him to the door or the door-post and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life.
This is the first type of bankruptcy law I’ve encountered. With this, a government doesn’t step in, but a person, who has lost themselves to debt, can sell the only thing they have left, their ability to perform labor. This is a loan. In six years the loan is paid off, and they are set free. Bondservants who did this made a wage, had their debt covered, had a home to stay in, on-the-job training, and did it for only six years. This almost sounds better than college, which doesn't cover debt and you have to pay for it!
This is not a forced agreement either. The bondservants enter into service on their own accord. In the same respect, a foreigner can also sell themselves into servitude. Although the rules are slightly different, it would still be by their own accord in light of Exodus 21.
This passage follows closely after Moses' decree against slave traders in Exodus 21:16. We include verses 18 and 19 to show the parallel to servants among the Israelites. The rules still apply for their protection if they already have servants or if someone sells themselves into service.
God prefaces this passage specifically with a reminder that the Lord saved them from their bondage of slavery in Egypt. Again, if one becomes poor, they can sell themselves into slavery/servitude and be released as was already discussed.
Verse 44 discusses slaves that they may already have from nations around them. They can be bought and sold. It doesn’t say to seek them out or have forced slavery. Hence it is not giving an endorsement of seeking new slaves or encouraging the slave trade. At this point, the Israelites had just come out of slavery and were about to enter the Holy Land. They shouldn’t have had many servants. Also, this doesn’t restrict other people in cultures around them from selling themselves as bondservants. But as discussed already there are passages for the proper and godly treatment of servants/slaves.
The slavery of “Black” people by “White” people in the 16th to 19th centuries was harshly unjust like many cultures before. This harsh slavery is not discussed in Moses’ writings, because such slavery was unknown in Hebrew culture. This is not surprising. Paul tells us in Romans 1:30 that people are capable of inventing new ways of doing evil.
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ARGUMENT TOPIC: IV'E HIGHLIGHED THE WORDS MAD RICKEY KEEPS GETTING EMBARRESeD ABOUT. RICKEY STILL CONTRADICTING HIS GODS OWN WORDS
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Ha ,Ha he keeps pretending the slavery verses mean something else , it's a lot of fun watching him try to justify his thug of a gods own words.
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I know your not but your god and Jesus were as both approved of owning people as property.
You attempt to talk about morality yet you admit slavery is just fine once your thug of a god approves.
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I don't know how to quote things.
Listen, I really don't care about fair and unfair things. Whatever happens, happens. I don't care who benefits, of course I do believe it's more beneficial to the majority than this current society is (atleast in a numerical sense), but listing every issue in society is going to take a long time and each one of those topics (taxes, things taught in school, law, etc) will take a long time to debate, of course much more enjoyable than having to learn PHD level theories just to quantitate vector infinities for Error404 Sans vs Yogiri (fictional character vs pixels on computer).
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Argument topic : Rickets god slaughtered the world's population even though he knew how they would behave , I think st- pidity is a requirement to be a christian ......
I still don't belive in god or satan but just to continue exposing your st-pidity try this ......
Who's the bad guy again?
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Where did you conclude God owed you anything? You have failed to show this. God is not a man, so He is not obligated to abide by your wishes. However, you are His creation and you are obligated to do what He commands.
Another important point, is that for the Christian, death is not the end. No matter how our life on earth ends - the soul persists. So, death is the end. God is not subject to your laws, but you are to His. So unless you can show me where it is wrong for God to kill what belongs to Him, you have failed to make a case - yet again.
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I think your kill count for God is low. In Jewish thought, God is ultimately in charge. Every person who has ever died has died because God permitted it. The question is why do you think this makes God evil?
My kill count is always veering towards the "low side" regards gods slaughter count in the interests of fairness.
I never said that's why I think he's evil, a reading of the Bible can through up hundreds of reasons why an indoctrinated person would come to this conclusion.
Your god created mankind knowing how they would behave then wiped them out for behaving the way he already knew they would , seriously?
When you wash your hands and kill 10,000 germs - do you feel like you have committed genocide?
No I don't, do you? Seriously? You're happy for your god to compare you to a germ?
Yet, because of your actions 10,000 life forms died. You are much, much closer to being the germ than to being God.
Actually a germ in my mind is superior to an entity that would watch a child being raped and do nothing when it easily could. You deem such actions loving and praiseworthy as god is the one doing the looking.
God is the creator and can do what He wants with His creation.
So using your rationale a matter could kill his child as he's the father ..............?
He owes you and me nothing. So if God allows someone to die in a car crash or by cancer - He has not wronged them. “Do not boast about tomorrow, for you do not know what a day may bring.” - Proverbs 27:1 Further, God has not promised you and me a trouble free life. "“Do not boast about tomorrow, for you do not know what a day may bring.” - Job 5:7
Yet god said he would answer prayer more than once in fact he promised it , so tell me how he answered the prayers of Jews slaughtered in the gas Chambers?
Where did you conclude God owed you anything? You have failed to show this.
I didn't as I don't believe in any gods , my purpose is to demonstrate how irrational such superstitious nonsense is. I've failed nothing as I cannot reason you out of a postion you didn't reason yourself into.
God is not a man, so He is not obligated to abide by your wishes. However, you are His creation and you are obligated to do what He commands.
Your god is exactly like Stalin ..."Stalin is not obligated by my wishes I am his subject I'm obligated to do what he commands"
Another important point, is that for the Christian, death is not the end
Eternity sounds like Hell.
. No matter how our life on earth ends - the soul persists. So, death is the end. God is not subject to your laws, but you are to His
Well you worship a celestial bully , why would I want any part of a life in a god who watches kids being raped and refuses to intervene because its part of some big plan?
. So unless you can show me where it is wrong for God to kill what belongs to Him, you have failed to make a case - yet again.
Your totally missing the point I admit that if there was a god by my subjective estimation I would want nothing to do with it as my moral standards are considerably higher than its , you deem your gods horrendous immorality worthy of worship and excuse it all its psychotic rages .
Yet again you invent strawman and argue against them instead of what I'm actually saying , you do it every time with everyone.
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Rape fails to consider the interests of the victim, therefore since it only considers one side's views or interests, it is unjust.
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Rape is a crime. “Unjust” is false accusations and punishments. An example of the former would be accusing someone of hating an imaginary god and then reacting in a negative way as if said myth were real just because you believe in it. That is a social example. Legally it’s a false charge and subsequent punishment.
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