Would it not be a viable and cost effective solution rather than watch them die slowly and miserably from afar ?
Everyday we we can watch on t v and media people starving of hunger in third world countries , we know we can only save a certain amount , so is it preferable to let them die slow agonising deaths or introduce cost effective and quick ways of elimination and thus alleviate the suffering of a slow death ?
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But you haven’t answered what I asked as in do you agree it’s” better” to watch them die slowly rather than finish them off quickly ?
We cannot save them all so why let them die slowly ?
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Humans shouldn’t be killed under any or most conditions. Food and resources should be provided by the government, organizations, etc. to help the starving. Starving people shouldn’t be killed.
Yes , I would prefer if they weren’t killed but you’re avoiding the question , if we cannot possibly save them why not eliminate them ?
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It would be better to kill the obese in developed countries and reallocate the food that would have gone to them to the poor.
But time is off the essence we cannot wait for fatties to get obese can we?
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Yes I realize that but you haven’t answered the question , also you’re only saying what’s been said ad nauseum for the last century and it still remains the same
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There is a difference medically ......The difference between obesity and being overweight comes down to Body Mass Index (BMI). A BMI of 30 or higher is considered obese. Overweight is defined by a BMI of 25-29.9. ... BMI is used because, for most people, it correlates with their amount of body
overweight people are deemed fatties obesity takes it up a level
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@Dee
So watch them die slowly and miserably from afar ?
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I said kill the obese. Obese = fatties.
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Semantic argument. I never specified medically obese according to the BMI index.
I said kill the obese. Obese = fatties.
Why is there a different kind of obese ?
You’re now attempting to re - define the term to suit your narrative , so tell me using your logic is a skinny person Anorexic ?
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No? Then you're the one trying to redefine words with your semantic argument.
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No? Then you're the one trying to redefine words with your semantic argument.
Nonsense , there is not a different “ kind of obese “ if there is maybe you can prove it ?
How do doctors define if one is obese ? Do you think B M I may be an indication?
I’m not having a semantic argument I’m merely correcting you on your useage of terms you do not understand
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http://www.dictionary.com/browse/obese?s=t
No mention of BMI at all. Why can't you back up your definition and why did you dodge the question? It's super easy to do if you're using real mainstream definitions like me.
You're awfully defensive of fat people.
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But you said there are different meanings of the term obese , which is another example of a statement you cannot back up
Where is your proof of this claim ?
There is a difference medically which I’ve proved making you incorrect again
How you ascertain I’m defensive of fat people is beyond me when you’re the sulking at me using the term obese , trying to tell us something are you ?
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i am good aren’t I Nom ? How are you buddy and thanks for the bleating ....sorry I mean greeting
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You're awfully invested in your semantic argument so can only assume you have an undue attachment to obese people.
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“ I have provided a dictionary definition for the term that is separate from the definition you claim is correct. Ergo there are multiple definitions. You are claiming you are the lord master of the english language and everyone can only use your definitions but can't back it up.”
“ You're awfully invested in your semantic argument so can only assume you have an undue attachment to obese people.””
Original statement was fatties = obese , I corrected you on your error making you incorrect yet again
There are not “ multiple definitions “ as grossly overweight is obese , I know this is tricky for you but please try and keep up , and actually I backed my argument up from the off unlike you
I actually am the lord and master in these matters and indeed most others
You projecting your obsession with obesity on to me is amusing seeing as you are the one who’s virtually stalking me at this stage
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“ @Dee are you factmachine or something? I am not quantumhead. I was first known as prodigee “
No I’m not factmachine I’m Darwin , anyway no worries no harm meant
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That you repeat such claims multiple times when you've already been proven wrong and can offer no evidence - even when asked to provide it multiple times - is somewhat bizarre, as is your defensiveness when someone points this our . Are you a very fat person yourself?
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“You claim relied on your definition of obese being the sole correct one and as shown with evidence to back me up rather than just the silly claims you make - you're wrong.”
“That you repeat such claims multiple times when you've already been proven wrong and can offer no evidence - even when asked to provide it multiple times - is somewhat bizarre, as is your defensiveness when someone points this our . Are you a very fat person yourself?”
Your claim was fatties = obese you were corrected and now you’re sulking , my definition is correct and destroyed your assertions
That I corrected you so many times when I’ve proven you wrong and can offer no evidence - even when asked to provide it multiple times ....... you’re incredibly annoyed at your weight issues and your anger would be best directed to maybe hitting the treadmill
, are you very , very fat = obese ?
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You won't accept dictionary definitions as the real definitions of words and even then you can only argue with semantics and trying to repeat my statements as if they were your own.
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Your failure to acknowledge and accept being corrected is something you need to work on , from the start you've said Fatties = Obese I corrected you several times and in an attempt to save face you resort to attempting to deny that your " point " was destroyed from the off
i note I'm not the only one who has corrected your re -invention of what you said opposed to what you actually think you said as in your attempts to weasel your way out of the gun debate
Your anger is misdirected and you should accept your correction and move on
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Why don't we humanely feed the starving in third world countries?
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Well considering you do not know what or how obesity is measured as in your Fat = Obese "observation " ,meaning in your world Skinny = Anorexic which is amusing to say the least
lets educate you yet again asin how is obesity measured ..,
Dont thank me it's a pleasure to help you , how's your gun " debate " going ?
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Thanks for shooting yourself in the foot. next time read what you're C+ping before you post it. You just admitted there are a number of different approaches to defining obesity (e.g. "There are a number of different approaches to measuring obesity") when you were meant to be trying to argue that there was only one and it was BMI.
Maybe try reading and/or thinking next time?
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Your claim was fatties = obese you were corrected and now you’re sulking , my definition is correct and destroyed your assertions
So so tell me as you’ve yet failed to answer if Fat = Obese then Skinny = Anorexic as this is what you’re asserting , bet you won’t answer yet again , so the gun debate still not going well for you ?
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“ I believe that no human should be killed for circumstances completely out of their control “
So is it preferable to watch them die slowly from starvation rather than finish them off ?
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“Why don’t we humanely feed the people of third world countries “
I take it you include yourself in the “ we “ so tell me are you feeding them as we speak ?
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Seems counterintuitive.
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Yet we don’t do it and we know only a certain amount will be saved so the preferable option seems to be to watch them die slowly instead of quickly
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Then have you not answered your own question? If it's not worth feeding them, it's not worth killing them.
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“Then have you not answered your own question? If it's not worth feeding them, it's not worth killing them”
Where did I say it was not worth feeding them ? I said we are watching them die slowly from afar so why not finish them off swiftly ?
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If you have the resources to do so, you have the resources to feed them.
Makes no sense to expend the same amount of resources killing someone, if those same resources would alleviate why your killing them. It's counter-intuitive.
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“ Makes no sense to expend the same amount of resources killing someone, if those same resources would alleviate why your killing them. It's counter-intuitive.”
Yes , so in the meantime we will do as always watch them die slowly and talk about the need to get resources to them as fast as possible
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Then that's the answer to your question. If it's not worth feeding them, it's not worth the expense to kill them either.
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” Then that's the answer to your question. If it's not worth feeding them, it's not worth the expense to kill them either“
I didn't say it’s not worth feeding them , I said we cannot feed them so it’s seems preferable to watch them die slowly as we do
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Just like you’ve begged me 6 times in messages to “ tell Aaron I sent you “ you don’t debate anyway that’s why you were kicked of C D
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“Yet, we CAN feed them, just as we CAN kill them. If it's not worth expending the resources feeding them, it's not worth expending the resources killing them. If your question is of the morality of the situation, genocide is likely worse than inaction.”
Your CAN in block letters is why ? But yet we don’t feed them we watch them die slowly .
Of Course it’s worth killing them to alleviate their suffering as we j
have no intention of feeding them
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Genocide induces suffering as well. If you wish to avoid suffering, genocide isn't an option either, and neither is inaction.
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“Genocide induces suffering as well. If you wish to avoid suffering, genocide isn't an option either, and neither is inaction”
Genocide is the solution to a slow agonising death by inaction regards feeding , cost effective ways could be worked out and the work could take place swiftly and humanely
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