This makes the third person that Trump has fired under suspicious situation. I feel like this is enough proof that Trump did work with Russia to corrupt the 2016 election, I tend to lend toward Trump no longer working with Russia now that he's gotten what he wants from them. What are your thoughts on the subject?
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/12/politics/donald-trump-james-comey-twitter/index.html?sr=fbpol051217donald-trump-james-comey-twitter,donald-trump-james-comey-twitter 0432PMVODtopLink&linkId=37521084
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/james-clapper-still-no-evidence-of-any-russian-collusion-with-trump-campaign/article/2622452
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There is such a thing as perception management for public office and It is important to avoid perception of conflict of interests.
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There is proof that Russia has interfered with other elections.- https://www.wired.com/2017/05/nsa-director-confirms-russia-hacked-french-election-infrastructure/
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bernie: of course he will use this opportunity to attack Trump to gain his own popularity
cnn: leftist establishment
french election: maybe russia interfered or not, but either way that's not proof.
so bottom line, I agree that there is sufficient suspicion amd an independent investigation is warranted, but there is no proof of wrongdoing.
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@CYDdharta, that looks like a rather strong argument (not quite yet Trump in jail), but hopefully you can admit it's not a pretty picture.
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Look Trump has ties with Russia this shouldn't be in dispute.
http://time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/02/15/donald-trumps-ties-russia-go-back-30-years/97949746/
http://www.newsweek.com/robert-reich-trump-treacherous-ties-russia-531386
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016-donald-trump-ties-to-russia-go-back-years-dnc-email-hack/
I mean pick a source...
The only thing in dispute is if they effected ours, and if Trump was a part of it. The point of this debate should be to discuss if firing the person investigating you should be considered "proof" of your guilt. I know for many they feel like that's a very strong indicator. On top of that the reason given to fire Comey was complete , Trumps camp applauded Comey for making negative statements about Clinton. The after firing him Trump get's on twitter and threatens him to keep him silent? The whole thing stinks... bad.
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Feinstein: No Evidence of Collusion Between Trump Associates and Russia
Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia
Ranking Democrat Investigating Trump's Russian Connections: No Definitive Proof
Manchin: No Evidence of Collusion Between Trump Campaign, Russia
Jonathan Capehart Skips Maxine Waters's Admission of No Trump-Russia Collusion Evidence Found
That's a lot of Democrats and their supporters that are admitting there was no collusion. So where did this story come from? According to Clinton insiders;
http://www.worldtribune.com/shattered-clinton-expose-reveals-russian-narrative-was-spun-within-hours-of-trump-win/
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http://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/04/14/evidence-is-building-that-the-trump-campaign-colluded-with-russia/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/may/12/donald-trump/trumps-mostly-false-claim-clapper-said-no-collusio/
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/141545/true-cnn-report-russia-destroy-trumps-presidency
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/us/trump-russia-cia-john-brennan.html
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/schiff-more-circumstantial-evidence-trump-associates-colluded-russia-n737446
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/5/10/1661041/-Joe-Kennedy-III-Lays-Out-The-Trump-Russian-Collusion-Corruption-In-3-Minutes-Raise-Your-Voices
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Daily Kos?!? You really swim in the left-wing swamp. Lots of innuendo in the article, too bad there is no PROOF, nothing to contradict the findings that the above Democrats have been forced to admit, that there is no evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russians.  Considerate: 61%  
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There is no evidence because they just fired the guy investigating it. How can you get evidence if everyone trying to investigate it gets fired?
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Trump is representing me quite well, much better than Congress is doing.
Comey was personally conducting an investigation??? Do tell!! They've been investigating it for nearly a year and still haven't found ANYTHING.
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If you think a year is a long time, I guess you've never been in any legal proceedings.
As for him "representing you quite well" I don't even know how you can say that with a straight face.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA, you must have forgotten that the Clinton's already rented out the Lincoln bedroom last time they were there.
A year is a pretty long time for an investigation to turn up NOTHING.
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It seems to me that there is no proof that Comey had before he got fired, but Trump surely anticipated such a media reaction, and he doesn't care. He will not let media impact his decision making - he will do what he feels is right for a given situation.
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Reduced illegals... ROFL more people were leaving this country than coming into it before he took office. 30 years of corrupt politicians are killing this country
Getting bids is an accomplishment? Someone put that on the meme? Wow you are desperate.
Clinton bombed ISIS, Obama bombed ISIS, Russia bombed ISIS, Trump bombed ISIS, ISIS is still alive and well. (his promise was have a plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days... he still doesn't have one he's just doing the same thing everyone else has done and expecting different results I think Einstein had something to say about that)
TPP was dead in Congress, Trump didn't stop it.
Bring jobs back and economic growth is all OBAMA. Economically speaking he brought this country out of the gutter, and Trump took office and has rode on that momentum. http://time.com/money/4640938/donald-trump-job-creation-announcements-ford-walmart-amazon/
Oh ya he's gotten rid of regulation, you know like the ones that prevent companies from polluting this country.This counts as an accomplishment to you?
Coal jobs? Really? Are you serious? He's gonna bring back blockbuster too.
Pipelines are an accomplishment? They are ALREADY leaking. http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/10/investing/dakota-access-pipeline-oil-spill/
Manufacturing. pfft
Now let's talk about the 60 or so promises he didn't keep.
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-broke-64-promises-in-his-first-month-in-office-5470f2c337e1
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I agree that perception is horrible of him firing Comey, resulting in media Frenzy. I disagree that Comey had proof.
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Trump doesn't care... about anyone but himself. http://www.eclectablog.com/2015/08/donald-trump-to-detroit-autoworkers-you-make-too-much-money.html
Everyone keeps saying there is no "proof" based on people outside of the investigation. Hey I get it, he's got you guys fooled and guys are ok with this country getting screwed over so long as it's not a black guy. There is no reason to fire Comey... what so ever, but that doesn't phase you. ok sure.
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1) the subject of debate is if there is proof. There is no proof. All the evidence we have and yoyr syggestions of his personal history while maybe relevant are not proof.
2) at the same time, there is no proof that Trump is innocent. It is fair in such situations to use guilty until proven innocent construct. I find many of your sources compelling to some degree.
3) perception is not good for Trump firing Comey in the midst of investigation, but that in itself is not proof.
anything else is just a personal opinion. If this debate would have been "do you believe..." than it wouldn't be a debate but a statement of an opinion. That's my 2 cents.
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i also think that you are bringing up another interesting debate topic about the court system. I also think that our legal system is overly complex, but at the same time KGB-like court system is even worse. That would make an interesting debate in itself.
Didnt mean to sound like I was lecturing, sorry about that.
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It's more interesting to me to discuss how far does "beyond a reasonable doubt" go? It's pretty vague IMO. You mention guilt solely on firing him, but there have been people hug by mobs for less I believe. We have a democracy does that mean that if most people believe someone is guilty that removes reasonable doubt? Or do we have to take into account fallacies and bias and say even though most believe a person is guilty that still isn't enough. That seems almost like treating them like children and saying that what they believe isn't good enough. And if so how do we decide who's judgement isn't ignored or distorted by fallacies and bias?
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Ya no reason to investigate this guy... none whatsoever.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/15/white-house-denies-report-trump-revealed-classified-info-about-isis-to-russians.html
At least we can agree that investigations are unwarranted.
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