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The Second Amendment, and the legal guns, and illegal guns.

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  • TKDBTKDB 694 Pts   -  
    @ZeusAres42

    You have a Zero counter argument, proof to that?

    "Two things are certain here and that is there are indeed crazy people with Guns. But there are also crazy people without Guns. The OP is the latter; that is pretty much a given though lol. "

    Where's your Proof to support your claims, other than your bias mindset.
  • TKDBTKDB 694 Pts   -   edited September 2019
    @KitRieke

    Where are CARS, mentioned in the Second Amendment?

    There are more guns owned by all sorts of individuals:

    The Militia groups, criminals, offenders, pro gun extremists, and regular gun owners, with a rough total of 393 million guns amongst them.

    The U.S. military, has 4.5 million guns.
    (According to Wikipedia.)

    "Point #3  This subject is just a political football.  Until someone is willing to load a gun and shoot me in order to take my guns. 
    This is a waste of time and emotion. 
    Spend your energy wisely."

    Mentioning about the kids, toddlers, teenagers, students, parents, senior citizens, and Police Officers, being murdered in cold blood, by the thousands each year, isn't a waste of time, emotion, or energy. 

    Because those citizens, have had their memorial services, as we speak, and they aren't able to speak for themselves, while you, casually get to express your words @KitRieke, here on the internet.

    They deserve Nationwide honor, respect, and courtesy, regardless of your rhetoric.

    And regardless of how the Second Amendment, is currently written, and being that the Second Amendment, has ZERO language in it expressing that criminals, or offenders, have the right to bear illegal arms, when they don't have that right.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

    "The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution protects the individual right to keep and bear arms.[1][2][a] It was ratified on December 15, 1791 as part of the Bill of Rights."

    And when the next March For Our Lives Rally comes along, I'll be sure to be wearing a shirt that states this:

    Where in the #2A, does it state, that any citizen, has the right to bear illegal arms?

    And I'll welcome, any news media outlet reporter, who wants to ask me questions, based on what my shirt says.


  • KitRiekeKitRieke 12 Pts   -  
    The point about cars...... obviously the gun arguments about lost life don't hold water.  If it was about lives, you would go after cars first, not guns.  So what's it really about then?


    It's a waste of time because you have no rational reasons to support your arguments, only emotional ones.  You need 2/3 to change the law.  Emotions only get you around half.  Having the discussion is fine but I have yet to see anything that's a game changer.  You want guns taken away, right?

    There are enough laws now to keep guns out of the wrong hands.  Problem is the country doesn't have the will to enforce them.  Because that would mean you have to admit a bad guy is a bad guy.

    We couldn't stop alcohol.......we can't stop drugs.....we can't control illegal immigration.  Do you honestly believe there is any chance guns could be controlled?  This is a waste of time.  Let's use our time wisely.
  • @TKDB ;
    Where are CARS, mentioned in the Second Amendment?
    The right to bear arm. The weight to be measured that a car holds is lethal force as united state.

    And regardless of how the Second Amendment, is currently written, and being that the Second Amendment, has ZERO language in it expressing that criminals, or offenders, have the right to bear illegal arms, when they don't have that right.
    No it does not it just numerically comes before the 5th Amendment. What you have a hard time remembering, or just refuse to understanding when not bearing the weight of arm, if someone else gives up preserving American United state Constitution 5th and not 2nd Amendment they are no longer insuring that others have due process of law. Being in no position to preserve constitution yourself anymore by the forfeit of 2nd amendment, it is by civilly action after the crime you attack others with the weight of a new crime, due to the fact they did not participate in the original crime.

    I agree that there is a need for a couple new American Constitutional Amendments. Understanding the weight of liberty and freedom for one.

    I agree that there is more that can be done to insure the public safety Constitutionally as it relates to fire-arms and lethal force. However the basic principle of gun for higher to apply lethal force on your behalf is not one of the solutions. It is to be expected from a minor as they are a dependent, from an adult it is inexcusable. 
    By the way to be clear a Gun is by basic principle a machine so in the world by definition of constitution it can be united with a car. In the American united State Constitution's 2nd amendment the basic principle is lethal force. It is pre-configured held by a state of the union created so the two things share one point lethal force by basic principle and legal precedent.
  • TKDBTKDB 694 Pts   -  
    From the NRA on Twitter:

    "NRA
    The current federal ammunition control legislation pushed by and the attorneys general is aimed at harassing law-abiding gun owners to further burden the exercise of their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.
    NRA-ILA | Anti-gun AGs Push So-called “Universal” Background Checks for Ammunition "

    Yeah NRA, keep preaching to your members.

    Nearly everyday, you're your own Pro Gun News Media Network, via the Internet. 
  • The real problem in fire-arms is that the background check contradicts any process of foreground licensing. Meaning that a United State Constitution is not preserved as a requirement in either case of gun possession. How covenant have two added costs to establish multiple things they known from the start are not going to make the needed connection between basic principle and legal precedent. By the way crime is a union made of basic principle and legal precedent.

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