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I’m not sure about it.
Here is why:
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This will all happen independently of anything that is happening or is said in holy texts from any language.
As far as the bible goes, we know from the christian creation myth that god tells Adam and Eve they can eat of any fruit in the garden except from the tree of knowledge in the book of Genesis. This implies humans have free will to decide. On top of this some fundamental christian ideas like heaven and hell break apart if humans do not have free will, because this would imply that they were damned to heaven or hell from the start.
However, the bible is of course full of contradictions, and in Romans 8:28 - 30 we read: "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified"
Therefore god planned everything from the start, meaning you don't have free will.
The answer is naturally to abandon all logic when thinking or speaking about religion.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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A more reasonable characterisation of "free will" would be a will free from direct external control. Whether the outcome is already predetermined or not, from one's point of view they can still think for themselves, make free choices and so on. There is an infinite regression problem here: if you know that the outcome is already predetermined, your actions are adjusted accordingly, hence the outcome changes, which, again, changes your actions, and so on.
When you walk near the edge of the cliff, you can say, "Whether I will fall off the cliff or not is already predetermined, hence it does not matter what I do". Yet having said that, you have altered your vision of the world, changing your actions and, possibly, the outcome itself.
Predetermination existing or not existing has no bearing on the world from a given person's point of view. They are still able to alter the outcome as far as their perspective is concerned, and even if in the grander picture the outcome is what it is, in that person's view it is not the case.
Many people make the mistake of assuming that if everything is predetermined, then it does not matter what they do, since the outcome will be the same. Not at all: if so, the outcome has already accounted for this thought altering the actions. Mind struggles matter, and are a part of the process. You can decide, "Nothing matters, since the outcome is defined, hence I will do whatever I want", and start doing crazy things - but that, in turn, has also been predetermined by the same token.
You always find yourself in the situation where the future is predetermined, yet you still have visible control over it. It is a bit of a paradox, but even more an illusion: how we see the world, and how it actually is, are two very different things, and no amount of philosophising is ever going to remedy this discrepancy.
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“But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity and does according to all the abominations that a wicked man does, will he live? All his righteous deeds which he has done will not be remembered for his treachery which he has committed and his sin which he has committed; for them he will die. “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not right.’ Hear now, O house of Israel! Is My way not right? Is it not your ways that are not right? “When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity and dies because of it, for his iniquity which he has committed he will die. “Again, when a wicked man turns away from his wickedness which he has committed and practices justice and righteousness, he will save his life. “Because he considered and turned away from all his transgressions which he had committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die. “But the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not right.’ Are My ways not right, O house of Israel? Is it not your ways that are not right?
“Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, each according to his conduct,” declares the Lord GOD. “Repent and turn away from all your transgressions, so that iniquity may not become a stumbling block to you. “Cast away from you all your transgressions which you have committed and make yourselves a new heart and a new spirit! For why will you die, O house of Israel? “For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone who dies,” declares the Lord GOD. “Therefore, repent and live.”
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If predestination can be changed then it was not predestination to begin with, by definition...
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First let's see the meanings of both:
You going out and having seen the brothel the women, your arousal and your relative far away are all under determinism of God and He won't influence you to make a choice between any of the three options, but he will still know what you will choose depending upon your personality or your core nature. Now lets include Biblical Devil, who has suggestive abilities, He can entice you to brothel "it's only some fun let's enter are you not a man etc..." and other such suggestions egging on your Manhood and ego. But at the end...
If you really want to loosely define freedom of choice, then it is merely "will to do something under your capacity". Where as freewill lacks any constraints by definition, hence non-existent.
Do tell me what you think.
Cheers.
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I think my post got deleted when I was trying to fix spellings, let me write the whole thing again. I will describe you free will or freedom of choice = will to do something within ones capacity. Let us see how both works in real life example:
Free will: the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.
Universe is full of constraints, gravity is a constraint, planets spinning in orbital fashion is a constrain, your lungs breathing, your cells dividing, your age and hair growing are all happening without your will, so universe is constrained by natural laws. so by that definition there is no free will. And we know from religious texts, that God has claimed that He created these laws.
Now let's see freedom of choice You can choose to go out naked, but you are constrained by public view, and shame, but still you have a choice to go out naked....you can choose to believe or reject any religion, but you are constrained by what your parents religion is and what they thought you, you can learn and still leave that religion, you are hungry for dinner but you can choose to not eat food at dinner, these things which you don't do but can do fall under freedom of choice.
Here is a silly yet simple example of God's determinism, Devils suggestion and your freedom of choice.
You go out far from home and end up near an entrance of a brothel, you see this hot women practically naked seducing you to get in, and you are aroused by this, you first shy away seeing here and there and end up seeing one of your relatives far away in some shop. You are nervous because he might see you. What will you do here?
A. You go into brothel irrespective of who you saw.
B. You ignore the chick and go meet your relative say hi and all etc.
C. You ignore both and go back home.
Lets analyse the situation,
You going out was under constraint of your feelings.
You are aroused and have arousal is under constraint of your nature as a male.
You are shy first then nervous because you saw someone you know, is under constraint of your family and relative ties.
What you choose is your freedom of choice...but everything else is under constraint.
The God's determinism will be all for the 1 - 3 points, but he will not influence you. But He still knows what you will choose since he knows your core nature or real personality, and time is not a constraint for God, as it is His creation. Now lets include Devil, He can entice you by suggestion "its only some fun are you not a man?". What devil does entice you by egging your manhood and ego. But nothing further.
But At the end what you choose is still your choice.
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