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@RickyD when asked by me if his god was all loving why do babies die of cancer ?
Replied .....
; Again, ad nauseam, my Lord does not find joy in children suffering from disease but this is the reality of man's disobedience and the curse of sin from The Beginning. Every child that dies before attaining the age of reason is secure in their Lord forever in Eternity.
Apparently children dying of cancer since the time of Christ are paying back a debt for their ancestors “rebellion”!!!!!
I firmly believe to believe this one has to be mentally unhinged, what sort of a god would need revenge against infants for a couple of 1000 years as “payment “ for their ancestors rebellion?
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He is just a scared train wreck that needs the almighty lie to stay morally sound and feel emotionally dignified.
The problem with the position of @RickeyD is that this means that he doesn't think that god is all powerful because he is all loving. If god isn't all powerful, then he couldn't have made all things. Therefore god can't exist.
If god is all powerful then he can't be all loving, because he would be able to make children suffer.
His answer is a total cop out that anyone, even other Christians can put to bed so to speak. Him starting the reply with "ad nausaeum" indicates this isn't the first time he has heard this question, yet still he fails to grasp the underlying subtly that would be fatal to his worldview, if thought about with any amount of integrity.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Christianity is a death cult glorifying human sacrifices and built upon Worm theology, promoting a low view of self (We're worthless and born broken), where Salvation is offered and Redemption is promised, at the low price of the surrender of your critical faculties.... It's a fundamentally despicable belief in my opinion.
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I think this specific forum, is in violation of the Debate Island forum rules.
You're not supposed to create a forum, as a response, in regards to what another Debate Island participant, expressed to you.
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"Do Christians fully accept that children deserve to die of cancer?"
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Kind of throws a wrench in the whole "The punishment for sin is death" thing.
If god is omniscient, does that mean that he knows what it is like to want to snort drugs off a strippers @$$?
If he does, then this means he has committed lust which is a sin. If he doesn't he isn't omnipotent.
What is the punishment for sin?
Nietzsche seems to think he has already received his retribution.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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***** I think this specific forum, is in violation of the Debate Island forum rules.
Really?
*****You're not supposed to create a forum, as a response
Am I indeed “not supposed”? I’m not a coward I’m addressing a forum users specific remarks to his face in front of other forum members I am not doing it behind his back. Maybe you could team up with him and support his remarks as a fellow Christian or else do as you always do as in refuse to actually address what a topic asks
, *****in regards to what another Debate Island participant, expressed to you.
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***** I think this specific forum, is in violation of the Debate Island forum rules.
Really?
*****You're not supposed to create a forum, as a response
Am I indeed “not supposed”? I’m not a coward I’m addressing a forum users specific remarks to his face in front of other forum members I am not doing it behind his back. Maybe you could team up with him and support his remarks as a fellow Christian or else do as you always do as in refuse to actually address what a topic asks
, *****in regards to what another Debate Island participant, expressed to you.
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***** How foolish is the one who conjures such words?
Translation from Ricky speak to English .......”Try and sound like god speaking from above and he might agree “
**** Children don't "deserve" to die of cancer
But they do according to you and your god otherwise why are they paying for the fall of Adam? Why does your god need millions of child deaths to satisfy his need for revenge?
*****but unfortunately cancer is the resultant of genomic mutational malformations that manifest from The Fall of Adam as he rejected God's Covenant of Sustenance.
Do you take joy in these deaths as it pleases your god so why not you? If as you state “children don’t deserve to to die from such “ why not condemn your god is it cowardice on your part?
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****unfortunately cancer is the resultant of genomic mutational malformations that manifest from The Fall
God did not put put these genomic malformations into place
Remember a good needs a good memory ....You clearly stated
*** unfortunately cancer is the resultant of genomic mutational malformations that manifest from The Fall
So god put them into place? That’s unless you want to make a new cover story
****anymore so than God put evil and sorrow and suffering into place all of
Yet you being a biblical ignoramus do not know that the Bible clearly states ...
Isaiah 45:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
So tell me if in his own words he states he creates evil why are you lying .....again?
****which are the resultant of disobedience.
So tell me you idotic troll how does “disobedience “ create cancer in a child?
****God's primary reason for creating both His angelic and human creation is "relationship."
Right a relationship with something you cannot see , feel , touch , or hear ....there a name for that
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Causing [a]well-being and creating calamity;
I am the Lord who does all these. Isaiah 45:7 (NASB)
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Ask Aarong, if this forum from you, isn't a violation of the rules for the Debate Island website?
Or do you want me to ask Aarong?
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**** Ask Aarong, if this forum from you, isn't a violation of the rules for the Debate Island website?
Why would I ask Aarong when it’s not? Are you annoyed because you’ve recieved more warnings for trolling and here you are at it again I’m going to flag you again
***Or do you want me to ask Aarong?
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I’m drinking a beer and laughing out loud .....were there tears ha ,ha , ha ......Maybe I should send the Sea Lion a crate of fish to keep it happy ......
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This great man said it best:
https://youtu.be/hsIpQ7YguGE?t=154
Religious people of all kinds like to believe that there is some inherent moral system to the Universe, usually created by "god" or some other supernatural entity - but that is not true in reality. The world has no morals and does not care who gets treated "right" and who gets treated "wrong". Even "god", if existed, would merely be a product of the Universe, or, perhaps, some "super-Universe" of which ours is just a small part, and his/her/its personal morals would not be a result of any "righteousness" inherent to the world.
We are fundamentally anthropocentric, believing that the Universe is there to cater to our needs. It is not, however; it is just there, and it is up to us to figure out how to fulfil our needs. And if one of us is born with cancer, then it is pointless to either blame someone for it, or to try to rationalise it through "god's mysterious plan". Cancer is just cancer, and either we find a way to treat it, or the child dies. It is as simple and straight as that.
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