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"There's going to be a special place in Hell for people who spread lies through the veil of logical fallacies disguised as rational argument".
"Oh, you don't like my sarcasm? Well I don't much appreciate your stup!d".
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But if you really like being gay I'm mean good for you im not guna stop you
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Unfortunately, human rights advocates tend to focus on narrow issues, instead of taking their position to its logical end. Homosexual marriage is good and all, but it is only a small subset of all types of marriages that also should be legalised. When an organisation emerges that dares to say openly, "We disapprove of marriages between children and parents, but they should be legalised nonetheless", then I will be pleased.
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"There's going to be a special place in Hell for people who spread lies through the veil of logical fallacies disguised as rational argument".
"Oh, you don't like my sarcasm? Well I don't much appreciate your stup!d".
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  Entity Sentiment Detection: gay marriage    lie aswell   religion   reason  
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Smoothie
The only problem tested by law is there is no practical way to make perjury legal to allow same gender marriage to be a legally enforceable likelihood. In the point of homosexuality which has no necessity to be a focus of public likelihood of children like marriage. All actions of child creation that takes place only happen when either of the men seek a child. The mother of the child and father of the child, no matter what are the focus of union by both law and terms of likelihood in a civil union marriage.
Two men are Binvir bound by a partnership and no illegal restriction is paced on witnesses of a longstanding public likelihood takes place. Meaning no perjury. A reluctance chase the crime perjury as it is not discovered by the courts does not make it legal. Ever.
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You said>>>becoming one-flesh for life.
Does this mean your radical (in my opinion) Christian belief that sex is only for the purpose of procreation? If it is. Is it also therefore your belief that after a women is unable to bare children that sex is no longer allowed, even within marriage, like the Roman Catholic Church use to premote?
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https://www.healthline.com/health/artificial-insemination
There is nothing requiring heterosexual relationships to exist in order for our society to exist, only people to give birth and parents to raise the children. Just because it is different, doesn't mean that it is not possible.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
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Nobody is giving birth if there are no heterosexual relationships. You still need a male and female for artificial insemination to work.
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Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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  Entity Sentiment Detection: male-female relations    sex-ed   point   gay relationships  
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrogacy
A society where everyone was homosexual would totally work, it would just be different from what we currently have.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
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Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
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Given our current situation where homosexual couples are an extreme minority, the same is still possible because surrogates can and do exist, so gay couples can still raise children or adopt them. This is only a problem if you make the assumption that only heterosexual couples can have and raise kids, which just isn't true.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
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Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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While it is true that a gay couple will not naturally produce children on account of they lack the necessary reproductive organs, that should not preclude our legal and moral obligation to treat people as equals, and this ought to include the equality in rights to marry however the individuals choose.
Biological inequality should have no bearing on legal inequality.
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Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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  Entity Sentiment Detection: homosexual sexuality    process of artificial insemination.Your position   sexuality of the parents   Gay relationships  
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Second, with modern technology, we do not need any sexual intercourse between people whatsoever to reproduce. Perhaps at this point in time artificial reproduction is not sustainable, but it will be one day.
Third, there are heterosexual relationships that do not lead to reproduction as well, yet the law says nothing against them.
Fourth, homosexual relationships can lead to reproduction in an indirect way; for example, one person could agree to have sex with a person of the opposite sex they are not in a relationship with, with a prior contract signed giving the child to them.
Finally, even if we dismiss all these notions, it is clear that in the modern society marriage is about more than just sex/reproduction. Marriage is, first and foremost, about love and devotion to each other, and that is pretty independent from the people's sex life.
It is true that these two types of relationships are not equal; by definition, they are different. I fail to see how this difference materialises in undesirability of one of them.
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This is not a good argument against marriage equality or the possibility of marriage equality because it fails to provide any real reason to not allow marriage, so it basically just stating a simple fact that no one will disagree with. In your original comment you did not say relations, you said relationship:
So from this we can conclude that we are talking about the actual marital relationships and not social relationships with people who are not part of the marriage. This would be equivalent to saying that some marriages are not equal because the partners are both short, or have bellow average strength.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Why is that fact irrelevant? Your argument is literally based on the fact that homosexual couples do not reproduce. The fact that some heterosexual couples do not reproduce either undermines the distinction you are making.
These types of relationships are different, but they are not different in the aspect your argument makes an attribution to. Nor is that aspect relevant with regards to legality of marriage.
I fail to see what the fact that society would exist if all people were heterosexual, but would not if all people were homosexual, has to do with anything. Neither is the case in the real world.
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*******Again, my argument was simply that gay marriage is not equal to heterosexual
Nor is hetrosexual marriage equal to gay marriage so what?
*****marriage since they cannot birth the same effects.
How does this make one marriage more worthy than another?
*******Don't say you are for marriage equality when the relationships are not equal
What makes a relationship equal?
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First, that is not true: homosexuals can produce children, they simply choose not to as they prefer male sex partners - similarly, there are heterosexuals that can produce children, but choose not to. Second, this discussion concerns gay marriage, and if you want to advocate against gay marriage based on lack of reproduction, then you should advocate against any marriage which does not lead to reproduction - and since it is never possible to say in advance whether reproduction will take place or not, marriage should only be allowed for those couples which have already produced children. Which is a pretty strange stance to take.
And third, you are also not correct in claiming that society cannot exist with all people being homosexual. Again, homosexual people can reproduce. In theory, there could be society in which everyone is homosexual, but men and women sometimes come together purely for reproduction purposes, even if the sex act between them repulses them.
Turn this around: suppose only homosexual sex could lead to reproduction. Now, you are heterosexual and want children really badly. Would swallowing your pride and laying down with a man for once be too much for you to do for the sake of making your dream come true? I do not know about you, but I would do it.
And even if a purely homosexual society could not exist - so what? Again, a purely doctor society cannot exist either, yet it is hardly a valid argument in support of outlawing healthcare jobs.
Your position just does not seem very well thought out to me and contains multiple inconsistencies.
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Please define, in your own words, what you think "marriage equality" means.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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  Entity Sentiment Detection: gay marriage    Homosexual behavior   hetrosexual marriage   marriage equality  
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So would you say that marriage inequality would be something like "Complete equivalence between married couples, or married couples that are the same in every way"?
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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