A resident atheist suggested that believing in God can be construed as a form of mental illness. A Christian response...
An actual "mental illness" is a refusal or inability to apprehend the overwhelming evidence before you and come to a logical conclusion about its relevance. Anyone possessing a modicum of commonsense, wisdom, discernment, mental acuity, void personal - immoral biases and ulterior motives can gaze at a clear night sky and discern the necessity for design and therefore a Designer.
According to God the Holy Spirit, it is "the fool" (Psalm 14:1; Romans 1:18-32) that sees the supernatural evidence in Nature mandating our Creator then looks away and concludes that this supernatural phenomena manifest by chance. That is evidence of an untenable psychosis and the atheist, naturalist, is not only a and a fool but evidence suggests a mental illness - demonic deception is in play as well.
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Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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You have a mental disorder
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When the Christian, or anyone possessing a modicum of commonsense, logic, wisdom, observes the written and verbal contributions in these debate forums of those adhering to the façade of the Atheistic Religion, it is beyond refutability that the deception involved in this demonically-based ideology/religion/cult is, for all intents and purposes, a form of schizophrenia.
Mayoclinic.org: Schizophrenia
“Schizophrenia is a serious mental disorder in which people interpret reality abnormally.”
When engaging the atheist in conversation or debate relevant to their worldview, the atheist fails to acknowledge the overwhelming, irrefutable, evidence of our supernatural Universe as empirical, extant, substantive, evidence for design and a mandated Designer. I am not suggesting that the atheist simply denies knowing the Creator of the Universe, the identity of said Creator, but that the atheist unashamedly denies the inexplicable reality of the Moon, Sun, Stars, Earth, Life and Time and the inexplicable origin of these supernatural phenomena void a mandated Designer who is both supernatural and outside of and simultaneously infinitely superior to that which has been carefully designed and created.
Denying the reality of that which is before you daily and nightly is symptomatic of a psychosis, a mental illness, that is obviously supported and under girded by personal biases, involvement in unnatural, immoral, behaviors that require the denial of a supernatural Creator for the sake of conscience and eschewing shame and self-loathing; a Supernatural Creator that the atheist and all of mankind intuitively knows exists and One that inherently-obviously possesses authority and dominion over the life of the atheist living in denial of reality (Romans 1:18-32).
This psychosis of “denial of reality” is also enhanced and seductively morphs into a form of obsessive-compulsive disorder via the psychologically and physiologically devastating-debilitating problem of “diminishing returns.” When one is consumed with demonically inspired Naturalism which is the primary tenet of the religion of Darwinism (evolutionary theory) which is the progenitor of the religion/cult of Atheism which worships at the throne of “moral relativism,” the man or woman so deceived by these demonically-based cultic religions naturally pursues and obsessively idolizes those things that bring aberrant forms of sensual pleasure and ingratiate the flesh i.e. a rebellion to/rejection of the objective moral law written upon the human heart by the Creator (Romans 2:15).
Unfortunately, the atheist, who is often times absorbed with the obsessive-compulsive behaviors involved in compromise with sexual immorality-other forms of addiction, there is inevitably a slippery-slope of disappointment, dissatisfaction with cursory immorality necessitating ever-increasing forms of self-destructive debauchery, immoral behavior manifesting in confusion and self-loathing leading to death of the body, mind, soul, in life and in eternity. This slippery-slope of hopelessness ingrained within the Religion of Atheism mandates ever-increasing vitriol-hate-loathing for a Divine Moral Authority. This deep-seated hatred for God is ever-present on debate-forums involving the atheist.
Conclusion
Atheism is a serious and debilitating psychological – spiritual disorder that is incrementally destroying the lives and future of America’s posterity as well as the future of America’s Constitutional Republic; therefore, Atheism in America is an untenable ideology relevant to the sustainability of mores, norms, values, under girding a healthy, happy, moral, sustainable society.
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Does the Pope suffer from mental illness being that he is a Religious individual?
Does the Queen of England suffer from mental illness?
If you believe that they suffer from mental illness, then where is your PUBLISHED news stories, that allude to their mental illnesses?
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You poor man you’re unwell ,you suffer from a delusion ......
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@Happy_Killbot Nope. It's not a mental illness to believe in something or believe something exists without evidence. You may not have very good reasons for believing in something or believing that something exits though.
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There is no such thing as "intuitive knowledge"; our intuition is deceptive, and differs between individuals. My intuition suggests that there is nothing of the kind, yet I cannot reasonably call it "knowledge". Knowledge and intuition are incompatible categories.
I do not think that the definition of "mental illness" you provided in the title post is the correct one, but if it was, then, indeed, believing in god could be classified as mental illness.
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There you go again, hounding me, instead of properly debating with Facts, and legitimate evidence to support your own non Religious narratives?
"You poor man you’re unwell ,you suffer from a delusion ......
@Dee
Where is your internet breaking evidence, to provide a counter argument to the below questions?
Does the Pope suffer from mental illness being that he is a Religious individual?
Does the Queen of England suffer from mental illness?
If you believe that they suffer from mental illness, then where is your PUBLISHED news stories, that allude to their mental illnesses?
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@RickeyD And what you do? Where is this substantial evidence that we can test and verify? Please enlighten us?
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Evidence for our Creator>>> https://rickeyholtsclaw.com/2019/10/25/evidence-for-our-creator/
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***There you go again, hounding me,
Facts don’t care about your feelings buddy
That’s some persecution complex you have
*****instead of properly debating with Facts, and legitimate evidence to support your own non Religious narratives?
Facts ? You mean like the fact you’re delusional ?
**** Where is your internet breaking evidence, to provide a counter argument to the below questions?
Evidence ? Do you not read what I stated you and others believe in a supernatural entity you’s have never seen , heard or touched you’s are delusional
***Does the Pope suffer from mental illness being that he is a Religious individual?
He does yes
***/Does the Queen of England suffer from mental illness?
She does yes
****If you believe that they suffer from mental illness, then where is your PUBLISHED news stories, that allude to their mental illnesses?
What do I need them for? You and others believe in a supernatural entity you’s have never seen , heard or touched .....you’s are delusional
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First you said that I have an intuitive knowledge that god exists. Now I said that my intuition suggests otherwise, and you are saying that my intuition is false. So which one is it? Should one trust their intuition on this one or not?
If my intuition is false, how do you know that yours is not?
You do nothing with this kind of arguments but push people further and further away from your religion.
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If I may, I thought this article, might be beneficial to the forum?
https://amp-theatlantic-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/520914/?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE=#aoh=15810275750915&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/03/secular-therapy-in-the-south/520914/
"The Atheists Struggling to Find Therapists in the Bible Belt
The rise of faith-based counseling in America’s most Christian regions has brought the clash over religious liberties to the therapist’s couch."
"In the U.S., people are less religious than ever. Adults in their 20s and early 30s make up more than one-third of the country’s “nones,” or those who consider themselves religiously unaffiliated. Church attendance among young Americans has also declined, and most adults nationwide rely on internet research, rather than prayer, when faced with life decisions."
"But for many non-believers living in the country’s most religious regions, namely the Bible Belt and parts of the Midwest, the idea that religion in America is somehow eroding seems foreign, if not far-fetched. Despite the overall decline in religiosity over the past decade, around 70 percent of Americans still identify as Christian, currently making the U.S. home to more Christians than any other place in the world."
"So what does that mean for atheists, agnostics, secularists, and “nones” living in the country’s most faithful pockets? Well, historically, a kind of culture war, where the separation of church and state is hotly debated in places like restaurants, schools, and the workplace. However, in recent years, a more understated and intimate clash over religious liberties has been playing out—only this time, it’s on a therapist’s couch."
* * *
(This section on Sigmund Freud, reads more like self created opinion, and perception, from Sigmund Freud himself?)
"Sigmund Freud once called religion the “universal obsessional neurosis of humanity,” setting the tone for a long-fractured relationship between psychology and theology. Although tensions between the two domains have softened over the past few decades, the tête-à-tête persists, in part because they are devoted to a similar purpose: explaining the intricacies of the human mind, and soul."
"The degree to which “He” fits into the mix can vary. From Christian rehabilitation centers and biblical life coaches to religious private practices, spiritual counselors, and something as contentious as conversion therapy, Christian groups have been adopting mental health as a new frontier in recent years. And at the forefront of this trend are faith-based therapies, which have reportedly experienced a surge in popularity over the last decade."
@RickeyD
My takeaway from the article, it would appear that some come to the internet, and I guess in a way, are seeking therapy or guidance from the internet itself?
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What do you think about Sigmund Freud's work?
Did he base his WORK on legitimate facts, and evidence, or did he base his WORK on his own opinion and perception?
My thought is that Sigmund Freud's own WORK, was based on zero evidence, and he relied on his individual opinion and perception, to grease the very wheels of his self hyped Public popularity.
Freud lived off of the very opinion and perception, that pushed his narratives unto the Public to garner attention for himself.
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You're welcome.
Sigmund Freud's opinion and perception, are very educational.
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@TKDB You do realize a lot has changed since Freud now right?
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The only reason I sometimes currently continue to converse with him is to see if I can actually get through to that once respectful, civil individual that did once exist. @maxx
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I realize that you, and some of the other non Religious individuals, are just as educational as Freud is, via an individuals opinions, and perceptions?
When it comes to an individuals perception in regards to "Delusion and Religion, and placing them together," to create an opinion and perception platform to hound various Religious individuals with?
First there was Epicurus, and now Sigmund Freud, and his opinion, and perception filled works.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud
"In founding psychoanalysis, Freud developed therapeutic techniques such as the use of free association and discovered transference, establishing its central role in the analytic process. Freud's redefinition of sexuality to include its infantile forms led him to formulate the Oedipus complex as the central tenet of psychoanalytical theory.[8] His analysis of dreams as wish-fulfillments provided him with models for the clinical analysis of symptom formation and the underlying mechanisms of repression. On this basis Freud elaborated his theory of the unconscious and went on to develop a model of psychic structure comprising id, ego and super-ego.[9] Freud postulated the existence of libido, a sexualised energy with which mental processes and structures are invested and which generates erotic attachments, and a death drive, the source of compulsive repetition, hate, aggression and neurotic guilt.[10] In his later works, Freud developed a wide-ranging interpretation and critique of religion and culture."
"Though in overall decline as a diagnostic and clinical practice, psychoanalysis remains influential within psychology, psychiatry, and psychotherapy, and across the humanities. It thus continues to generate extensive and highly contested debate with regard to its therapeutic efficacy, its scientific status, and whether it advances or is detrimental to the feminist cause.[11] Nonetheless, Freud's work has suffused contemporary Western thought and popular culture. W. H. Auden's 1940 poetic tribute to Freud describes him as having created "a whole climate of opinion / under whom we conduct our different lives."[12] "
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How can you possibly know what my intuition tells me? Are you a mind-reader? Not for a moment did my intuition ever suggest the need for some sort of a supreme being. I can just as well suggest that your intuition also does not suggest any gods, and you are lying to the Universe, to me and to myself.
You can never make a logical argument. You always have to appeal to some scriptures, to your alleged mind-reading abilities, etc. This is what swindlers do, who have some material agenda and do not actually care about being truthful.
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I realize that Religious discrimination is Religious discrimination.
And not one TIME, have I ever witnessed any grown adults inside of a Religious building, being discriminate towards any other Religion, or to any Atheist individual.
Because if I had ever witnessed that kind of Atheist discrimination, I would have happily called out the Religious individual being discriminate towards any Atheist.
But the reality on the Internet, when it comes to how some of the non Religious individuals act discriminately towards, other Religious human beings is appalling.
And one of these days I may write a book, about that very subject matter.
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What's wrong with discrimination against what is evil? How can there be good if you allow evil?
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What do you discriminate against?
And are you Religious oriented?
And if you are, have you been discriminated against in Public, or on the internet?
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Are you going to debate?
Or are you going to rely on the below irrelevant answers to do your debating for you?
***Does the Pope suffer from mental illness being that he is a Religious individual?
"He does yes"
Did the Pope give your permission to speak on this website, on his behalf?
***/Does the Queen of England suffer from mental illness?
"She does yes."
Did the Queen herself give you permission to speak on this website, on her behalf?
Being that they are Global household names?
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***^Are you going to debate?
You asked me two questions I answered them stop trolling
**$£^Or are you going to rely on the below irrelevant answers to do your debating for you?
You asked me were they delusional I proved they were
***Does the Pope suffer from mental illness being that he is a Religious individual?
"He does yes"
******Did the Pope give your permission to speak on this website, on his behalf?
I'm not speaking on his behalf you clot
***/Does the Queen of England suffer from mental illness?
"She does yes."
******Did the Queen herself give you permission to speak on this website, on her behalf?
I'm not speaking on her behalf you clot
*****Being that they are Global household names?
So what , they are delusional, so are you
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**** What do you think about Sigmund Freud's work?
Not much to be honest
*****Did he base his WORK on legitimate facts, and evidence, or did he base his WORK on his own opinion and perception?
I don’t know nor do I care
*****My thought is that Sigmund Freud's own WORK, was based on zero evidence, and he relied on his individual opinion and perception, to grease the very wheels of his self hyped Public popularity.
*****Freud lived off of the very opinion and perception, that pushed his narratives unto the Public to garner attention for himself.
Exactly like your god through the Bible
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Why are you so obsessed with having anyone debate YOU, instead of debating within the theme of any forum?
Here's the theme of the forum:
Is Belief in God a Mental Illness?
And here's how you reduce the theme of the debate, down to debating YOU:
**** What do you think about Sigmund Freud's work?
"Not much to be honest"
*****Did he base his WORK on legitimate facts, and evidence, or did he base his WORK on his own opinion and perception?
"I don’t know nor do I care"
*****My thought is that Sigmund Freud's own WORK, was based on zero evidence, and he relied on his individual opinion and perception, to grease the very wheels of his self hyped Public popularity.
*****Freud lived off of the very opinion and perception, that pushed his narratives unto the Public to garner attention for himself.
"Exactly like your god through the Bible."
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**** Why are you so obsessed with having anyone debate YOU,
Ehhh .....here’s a total shot in the dark .....I think it’s because it’s a debate site .....maybe
**** instead of debating within the theme of any forum?
I’m within the theme of the forum , you’re not thus your confusion
*****Here's the theme of the forum:
Is Belief in God a Mental Illness?
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You're obsessed with Me, or anyone else debating YOU, and NOT the theme of any forum.
Reality check, how about refraining from making any debate about YOU, so that the theme of any forum, can be shown its proper respect, and courtesy?
Because debating YOU, is time being sidelined to address YOU and not any debate?
More evidence of you diminishing a debate down to you:
**** Why are you so obsessed with having anyone debate YOU,
"Ehhh .....here’s a total shot in the dark .....I think it’s because it’s a debate site .....maybe"
**** instead of debating within the theme of any forum?
"I’m within the theme of the forum , you’re not thus your confusion"
*****Here's the theme of the forum:
Is Belief in God a Mental Illness?
Prove your Theory, that belief in God, is a mental illness?
Because Freud didn't prove anything, being that he ran his mouth to create his opinion, and perception, based on the rationale of his own brain, and provided zero evidence to support his mindset.
Epicurus did the same thing.
"And I’ve said yes repeatedly it is indeed a mental illness,"
"you don’t seem to understand that by answering this simple question I’m within the theme,
"you most certainly are not as your piece on Freud clearly demonstrates, is that why you’re trolling?"
@Dee
So you're saying that by sharing the information about Sigmund Freud, demonstrates that I'm trolling, according to you?
Please explain, how you view that as trolling?
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***** You're obsessed with Me, or anyone else debating YOU, and NOT the theme of any forum
Don't be so stupd , I was asked a question I answered it you cannot handle the answer I gave so you cry .....again
**** Prove your Theory, that belief in God, is a mental illness?
I already have , you’ve zero proof for your god you believe in a fiction
****Because Freud didn't prove anything, being that he ran his mouth to create his opinion, and perception, based on the rationale of his own brain, and provided zero evidence to support his mindset.
And that’s relevant how?
****Epicurus did the same thing.
Did he?
****/So you're saying that by sharing the information about Sigmund Freud, demonstrates that I'm trolling, according to you?
Please explain, how you view that as trolling?
Because the theme asks a very specific question which I’ve answered but you as usual cannot which is why you’re still trolling
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Some research work in regards to the (Original Atheist) Epicurus:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicurus
"For Epicurus, the purpose of philosophy was to help people attain a happy, tranquil life characterized by ataraxia (peace and freedom from fear) and aponia (the absence of pain). He advocated that people were best able to pursue philosophy by living a self-sufficient life surrounded by friends. He taught that the root of all human neurosis is death denial and the tendency for human beings to assume that death will be horrific and painful, which he claimed causes unnecessary anxiety, selfish self-protective behaviors, and hypocrisy. According to Epicurus, death is the end of both the body and the soul and therefore should not be feared. Epicurus taught that although the gods exist, they have no involvement in human affairs. He taught that people should behave ethically not because the gods punish or reward people for their actions, but because amoral behavior will burden them with guilt and prevent them from attaining ataraxia."
"Like Aristotle, Epicurus was an empiricist, meaning he believed that the senses are the only reliable source of knowledge about the world. He derived much of his physics and cosmology from the earlier philosopher Democritus (c. 460–c. 370 BC). Like Democritus, Epicurus taught that the universe is infinite and eternal and that all matter is made up of extremely tiny, invisible particles known as atoms. All occurrences in the natural world are ultimately the result of atoms moving and interacting in empty space. Epicurus deviated from Democritus in his teaching of atomic "swerve", which holds that atoms may deviate from their expected course, thus permitting humans to possess free will in an otherwise deterministic universe."
"Though popular, Epicurean teachings were controversial from the beginning. Epicureanism reached the height of its popularity during the late years of the Roman Republic. It died out in late antiquity, subject to hostility from early Christianity. Throughout the Middle Ages Epicurus was popularly, though inaccurately, remembered as a patron of drunkards, whoremongers, and gluttons. His teachings gradually became more widely known in the fifteenth century with the rediscovery of important texts, but his ideas did not become acceptable until the seventeenth century, when the French Catholic priest Pierre Gassendi revived a modified version of them, which was promoted by other writers, including Walter Charleton and Robert Boyle. His influence grew considerably during and after the Enlightenment, profoundly impacting the ideas of major thinkers, including John Locke, Thomas Jefferson, Jeremy Bentham, and Karl Marx. "
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What you’re talking about is beyond me are you on medication?
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"@TKDB
What you’re talking about is beyond me are you on medication?"
Does your response have anything to do with the theme of the forum?
Is Belief in God a Mental Illness?
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** *Does your response have anything to do with the theme of the forum?
Does your response have anything to do with the theme of the forum?
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"You poor man you’re unwell ,you suffer from a delusion ......"
"Evidence ? Do you not read what I stated you and others believe in a supernatural entity you’s have never seen , heard or touched you’s are delusional"
***Does the Pope suffer from mental illness being that he is a Religious individual?
"He does yes"
***/Does the Queen of England suffer from mental illness?
"She does yes"
****If you believe that they suffer from mental illness, then where is your PUBLISHED news stories, that allude to their mental illnesses?
"What do I need them for? You and others believe in a supernatural entity you’s have never seen , heard or touched .....you’s are delusional."
"You asked me were they delusional I proved they were."
***Does the Pope suffer from mental illness being that he is a Religious individual?
"He does yes"
******Did the Pope give your permission to speak on this website, on his behalf?
"I'm not speaking on his behalf you clot"
***/Does the Queen of England suffer from mental illness?
"She does yes."
******Did the Queen herself give you permission to speak on this website, on her behalf?
"I'm not speaking on her behalf you clot"
*****Being that they are Global household names?
"So what , they are delusional, so are you."
@TKDB
** *Does your response have anything to do with the theme of the forum?
"Does your response have anything to do with the theme of the forum?"
You've been .
And no, a belief in God isn't a mental illness, and so far you haven't proved that it is a mental illness.
For two reasons, neither the Pope, nor the Queen of England are living in a Sanitarium, because of their beliefs in God.
And I'm wondering, if you can provide any evidence, as to why they aren't in a Sanitarium, because you claim, that they a suffering from a mental illness in regards to God?
Where is your proof?
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**** You've been .
So have you for trolling
****And no, a belief in God isn't a mental illness, and so far you haven't proved that it is a mental illness.
And yes it is , it’s a delusion
****For two reasons, neither the Pope, nor the Queen of England are living in a Sanitarium, because of their beliefs in God.
Right so you’re not mentally ill if you’re not in a sanitarium?
***And I'm wondering, if you can provide any evidence, as to why they aren't in a Sanitarium, because you claim, that they a suffering from a mental illness in regards to God?
Because even though they are delusional they’re pretty harmless
****Where is your proof?
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