Biologically you are born MALE or FEMALE with the pair of chromosomes XX and XY no other way or form of surgery can change that and the chromosomes given is what determines your gender there no non-binary chromosomes given and if you're a male identifying as a female you're given an X and Y chromosome not an XX chromosome pair only XY which biologically you're a man and I'm not going out of my way or against what I believe to call you a female if you're born male or flipped a woman trying to be a man you can get all of these testosterone boosters or surgeries but you still BIOLOGICALLY have a chromosome pair of XX and I'm not going out of my way or against the way I believe to call you what you want to be called because you're born a female not male. Biblically the only two genders given by God that of which is in the bible Adam and Eve male and female not anything else and that is what I firmly believe in and no matter what you say you are what gender God gave you at birth you were born that way for a purpose and is something you really can't change.
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If you are taking about reproductive biological traits then I think you are taking about an individuals sex. Gender is often about the social and cultural factors not biological.
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Unlike some, I will try because I consider this topic to mundane to take seriously.
Not everyone is born XX or XY some are born XXY, a condition known as Klinefelter syndrome:
https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/klinefelter-syndrome
Gender is different from sex. Sex is determined by biology, which is far simpler than the human mind. Gender is based on who you are, so it is based on neurobiology which is the study of the brain as a physical organ. The brain and the genitals form at different times during pregnancy, so differences in hormones or genetic sensitivity to certain chemicals can lead to gender dysphoria, or the condition where someone who believes they are a different sex from what they are biologically.
I am an agnostic atheist, however I was raised Christian and I find it hard to understand why so many Christians would be opposed to someone being who they are. The bible says: Psalms 139:13 "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb." and repeats a similar theme in a number of places, such as in Galatians 1:15, Judges 16:17, and Jeremiah 1:5. In all situations, the message is clear. If you believe in the Abrahamic god depicted in the bible, he created everyone to be who they are, and because science shows that individuals with gender dysphoria are indeed something separate from the two traditional genders, it would therefore follow, that god created them to be who they are, and it would only be reasonable from this perspective that there should be more than two genders the way god intended.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Sex is what you're born as biologically but gender is what you identify yes I get those differences, but gender is based off of sex and yes you can call yourself whatever you want to call yourself whatever you call yourself, but I am going to call you what you were born as man or woman.
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Either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones.
And here is the definition of sex (meaning male/female rather than sexual intercourse).
Either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.
They are different. Gender is a social term. Sex is a purely biological term. Socially there is about 5 genders, male, female, genderfluid, bigender and pangender. Not to mention nonconformist, agender and simply 'other'. Confused yet?
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Biologists typically split animals in genders based on their roles in reproduction: females give birth and males do not. I am oversimplifying it, as not every female gives - or even capable to give - birth, but that is the gist of it. From this perspective, depending on the species, there can be 1 or 2 genders, but no more and no less. There are certain species considered genderless or genderfluid, but they still can be put into one or two genders somewhat informally.
Gender roles are a different thing entirely, and there can be infinity of them, in principle. For the purposes of human interaction it makes more sense to categorise people by genders based on the roles they play in the society, so you *could* say that there are more than two genders socially, albeit it would be a non-scientific statement.
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Do you mean like your first single cell magically appeared from nothing? Do you ever think before spewing your hate towards Christians?
You are the biggest Science denier on this site. You actually think that Homosexuality is a natural normal sexual orientation. Take Biology once again because you have been brainwashed by LGBT activists and the Democrat Party.
Good God!
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You are speaking common sense, and the Democrats tearing you down for stating the obvious, are anti Christian bigots who are rebelling against God and Christians.
They are denying the Science of Biolgy because of their hatred towards Christianity. How insecure can people be to believe this LGBT lunacy? It's all about rebelling against Christianity because God had the nerve to say that Homosexuality was a sin. They can't handle God or Science not embracing their disorder.
The people going through dangerous surgeries and life long drug use are finding out that their sex change has not brought the peace they craved. They have disorders, and rather than getting help, the Left allows these people to beleive that dangerous sex change surgeries will make them feel good about themselves.
Doctors and Phycologists have been threatened, and taken to court if they do not sanction Transgenderism and Homosexuality as natural normal sexual orientations. It's truly sick how the Democrat Party has given LGBT activists the power to force their agendas on our nation and our children. Democrats can't give a speech without cheer leading LGBT groups.
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So you are just going to ignore all points I have made and repeat the same thing you said before? Nobody can change your mind when this is your approach.
Humans are animals; mammals, to be specific. The attribution to animals is relevant, because the concept of gender is universal to all animals; it is not special when it comes to humans in any way.
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?? You'll have to explain this to me... I understand gender as a mental and social construct, not all mammals (in fact, at the moment I can't think of any other than humans) have the ability to conceptualize those sort of high abstractions...
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My own ethics professor got mad that there were pink and purple legos specifically placed in the girls section because that is only a social construct. How about its just marketing and thats what the majority of girls like. You think patriarchy cared enough about what color you like enough to force it into a social fabric. No one cares and boys are free to buy those legos.
I thought we had words to describe women and men who strayed from the regular gender contructs...tomboy, feminine men, ect. We had a word to describe your specific identity and we called it personality.
Also dont understand how one can be bigender if it exists on a spectrum. Bi would indicate that there are 2.
I dont frankly care what they want to change the definition to, but politics they try to push by doing it, such as men and women are only different because of social construct and allowing the opposite sex to enter bathrooms just by claiming to be gender fluid is ridiculous.
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On this whole thing of gender, I think that language relates to this a lot... Do you know a bit of french? I'm a native speaker and unlike English, all french nouns also have a gender: masculine or feminine, sometimes both... In french, a fly is always feminine regardless of the actual sex of said fly... A table is always feminine while a bed is always masculine... Morality is feminine, communism is masculine, Love is masculine when singular but feminine when plural, our whole language is like that...
The point I'm trying to make, or rather the question I ask is, could english be limiting the mental space to manage the concept of gender? I've been speaking french my whole life, it permeates my thinking patterns, to me the very idea of gender is ontologically fluid because of the language I grew up speaking... To hear people say that gender is not fluid is extremely weird to me...
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As to the Adam and Eve aspect of the creation story, I would simply ask that you put yourself in the shoes of your creator for a second, and desire to populate the earth with people.
If you were to make two people who were to be the mother and father of all humans, you would want them to be male and female, as well as have a gender which matches their biological nature, so that they would have both the motivation and the capability to populate the world, because if they were not then they would not want to or would be incapable of having kids. Thus there is a perfectly valid reason for God as depicted in the book of Genesis to create just a man and woman, which doesn't violate the possibility that other genders could exist.
I think the assumption that gender and sex much match stems from two assumptions, one is that the world should make sense and be simple, and the second is that those who claim to be a gender separate from what they are either lying or delusional.
As to the first assumption, I too would rather things were simple rather than complex, but I understand that the world is far beyond my personal capacity for knowledge and far to complex to ever be understood by everyone, let alone one person.
The second assumption is a little trickier, because it is apparent that some people are indeed, pretending for attention or are delusional, however I am not convinced that this is true in all cases, and because clinical conditions appear in transsexuals that disappear with treatment, namely sex reassignment surgery or therapy, I find it hard to believe that there is not something fundamentally different about these individuals which would be sufficient to deserve a unique semantic identity.
Speaking of semantics, and this isn't the most relevant to the debate but just something interesting, is there are languages that have as part of their structure many more than just three genders, and some that have none. For example, the Tuyuca language has 140 noun classes which serve the same semantic role that genders do in English. I know that this isn't exactly what we are talking about, but hey, some languages have a gender for peeling wood and knowing something.
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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So neither of us can be demonstrated to be objectively wrong then, is that what you conclude?
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https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/21447/
I do not believe that they go out to seek attention or a delusional I believe they are simply confused on what they are and maybe that's how their feeling, but I truly still believe there are only 2 genders no more than 2 and maybe its acceptable in other cultures as you brought up with Tuyuca language and by which is setting a socially acceptable thing in our culture and now is expected to accepted by our culture. As slavery was acceptable at one sets that standard to where that is also okay or a new thing our topic that is acceptable. These two topic have no relation, but gives an example of how different things are set in society as okay, but are not really okay because it really doesn't matter what other socities values are so we have to start to accept them. There are 2 genders and there are really no other option but the 2 again male and female.
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Let's suppose that we created a new gender. I'm a huge sci-fi nerd, so lets say that in the future some technology makes it so that there are people who are capable of giving birth through parthenogenesis (basically they give birth to a clone of themselves, some fish and lizards do this) or make it so that more than two people are needed to make a baby, possibly through some advanced DNA mixing (what I mean is that three or more people could have a baby that would be theirs)
All these examples are not as far fetched as you might think, already there are ways that it could be done within known science, and as pointed out parthenogenesis exists in nature, so presumably it is possible to somehow make it happen in humans.
This all begs the question: If it is theoretically possible to produce new sexes, should it also therefore be possible for more than two genders to exist?
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Once again, humans are animals; if our conversation is about humans, then it is about animals. "Gender" is a fairly broad term, and without comparing human genders with those of other animals the term becomes fairly meaningless.
I fail to see what the capacity to change gender has to do with existence of genders.
What we are taught as children is quite irrelevant; we are taught a lot of different things. What matters is what the facts are.
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Humans are quite late to the party; gender roles are likely hundreds millions years old.
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If they thought those existed on a spectrum youd think the language would have nuance to those, like holding the signifying vowel longer if it was more female or male.
To me if gender is fluid and people are using that to describe their identity the term really loses it meaning. I feel as though that would mean i have to classify myself accordingly with something like im 91.2% male and 8.9% female according to societal norms, which is just dumb. If anything this will also just make us define male and female roles even more, which is the opposite of what most of the proponents want. Everyone is an individual with different personalities, i dont think gender is the term used to describe that.
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Also i was responding to someone who was claiming his language agreed with fluidity, by assigning genders to words. Gender neutral also doesnt display any proof that gender in on a spectrum.
You didnt respond to any of my arguments.
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I didn't mean fluid as a "spectrum", what I mean is that gender is not a physical characteristic that relates exclusively to determined sex since I can ascribe it to objects, ideas, etc... My main point regarding this issue is that gender appears to me as inherently irrelevant as both biological determinate sexes (female/male) can play any gender role... I see no point to it except with regards to language and even then only as a matter of aesthetics.as in the musicality of language... In any case, it's totally arbitrary really... Why should anybody care that someone identifies as a he/she/it/whatever?
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Again i dont really care except when people use it to call hate speech if you get a pronoun wrong, use it to play the victim, and use these dumb expressions to institute policies like letting men play sports or letting the opposite sex enter lockerooms/restrooms. The english language is complicated enough, come up with your own singular pronoun fine but using they for a singular person doesnt make since (sounds like schizophrenia) and dont blow up if someone gets it wrong..
Thats asking for someone to stereotype you and get it right everytime.
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Do you not agree if it exists on a spectrum that is how we should be saying our gender?
Would this not just make us have to define male/female roles more than we already do? I thought we were supposed to be getting rid of traditional roles.
According most many gender proponents men and women are the same, patriarchal society has made us different...why would you want to identify yourself on a societal spectrum you believe to be corrupt patriarchal hogwash.
How can one be bigender if on a spectrum?
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According to most proponents all societies are patriarchal because how long men have ruled.
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I did not say there are more than two genders; I said the exact opposite. Re-read my first comment: there is a difference between gender as a biological term, and gender role as a social term. There is infinity of potentially possible gender roles, but there can only be two genders by definition - however, the definition does not have anything to do with chromosomes, and there are only two genders for a very different reason.
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I'm sorry, but I'm having a lot of trouble understanding what you are trying to say, because your argument doesn't make any sense.
When something is theoretical, that doesn't mean that it can't be true, for example general relativity is a theory, but if we didn't take relativistic effects into consideration, GPS satellites wouldn't work.
When I say it is theoretically possible to give humans a third or more sexes, I mean we have no reason to think it couldn't be possible, and since it already exists in nature such as the example of lizards, it already is real, just not in humans.
On another note, and I hate to get back into semantics, but English already has three genders, male, female, and neuter. If there are only two genders, than what gender should a toaster be?
Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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Except it is not the creator's mind, but the minds of those people who invented the concept of a creator. You are literally reading what other humans wrote and prescribing it divine properties... Is there nothing wrong with it, in your opinion?
As Feynman once said, "I would rather have questions that cannot be answered than answers that cannot be questioned". Everything can be and should be debated, and if something is not up to debate, then that something does not belong in the space of collective human knowledge.
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