Dee said:

@John_C_87

Oooooooookay .......

Dee when said death penalty a judge or lawyer states a juror must take part in the use of lethal force directly.  The state of the legal precedent set in constitution states a juror must take part in the last punishment ever given to who is convicted. The judge is not to be made into a criminal by the use of politics.

This type of description is not English Grammar or Politically correct, it is preserving union made between the combination of basic understanding and history of law. Words can be used to strip a person of their right of remaining innocent. A person can reinstate the wrong by saying something in a better-understood way.

So Capital punishment is saying, we are not planning death by use of lethal force, the Death penalty. We are simply issuing the last punishment that a convicted person will ever receive, in the order of all punishments, and all others' notion is allowed to prove an afterlife to which a judgment of religious passion may offer forgiveness after this point.

John_C_87 said:

@We_are_accountable ;

Until you use the same reasoning to protect our unborn lives, your words are an absolute joke. You can try to claim these innocent babies are not human lives, but Science says you are wrong!
You are exploiting a prejudice between woman and birth. It was found to be criminal in 1973 in the United States of America during a civil trial. A correction was Due 1973, one was never issued. 2014 was the first time a statement of female-specific amputation was used to abolish pregnancy abortion in public debate.

@MayCaesar

When might you address the below questions in a fair and equal manner?

And in the United States we have 300 Sanctuary Cities, in which those 300 cities are Legalized illegal sanctuaries for those 22 million illegal immigrants to illegally live in amongst the LEGAL US citizens. 

And when some of those illegal immigrants kill another US citizen, another "death penalty" murder, has been committed, because they're in the United States illegally.

"Death penalty is effectively a legalised murder."

"We already have legalised robbery (taxes)"

If any CITIZEN, has an issue with taxes, then they can get out of the country.

"and legalised slavery (prisons); having legalised murder on this list as well is no bueno."

And if any individual is enough to commit a crime like doing illegal drug's, running illegal drug's across the Southern Border, selling illegal drug's, human trafficking, committing sexual assaults, drive by shootings, race on race murder, or non race on race murder, kidnappings, doing illegal drug's, while being a doctor, or a nurse, or doing other professional jobs while under the influence, domestic violence and abuse, then any individual deserves to be treated like a criminal, or an offender, and they deserve, to be in prison, or jail, regardless if some want to view those same prisoners, or criminals, as slaves? 

Anyway ZeusAres42

The joke here is the amount waiting that has gone on since 1973 for a woman to create all women as equal by their creator in a shared legal united state of birth.

@Dee

"You’re still avoiding answering and running from the question of how is supporting the death penalty pro -life?......Bet you still post off a pile of irrelevant nonsense in reply 

You also stated murderers deserve the death penalty , you call women who abort murderers , so you think they deserve the death penalty right?"
(Please copy and paste, your evidence to where I stated that, "women who abort, murderers?)
And did I give you "Permission" to unconsensually place your word's in my mouth? 

Your rhetoric has been added to the below, and how hard is it for you to define humane death, and inhumane death, in regards to the simply stated questions?

Is an Abortion, (outside of Rape or Incest,) an example of a humane death?
@Dee is abortion, an example of a humane death?

If so, when a human hypothetically kills another human, is that an example of a humane death? 
@Dee, when one human hypothetically kills another human, is that an example of a humane death?

And if so, isn't the hypothetical execution of a convicted inmate, an example of a humane death? 
@Dee, when a convicted inmate is executed, is that an example of a humane death?

Who gets to write the Rules of the Pro Life conversation?

The pro Abortion crowd?

The pro Criminal, or Offender crowd?

Or the Public itself, who has lost loved ones to both the actions of some of the Abortion clinics, or to the criminals or offenders, who have killed thousands of innocent people, for decades now? 

When are the Fetuses going to get a voice, in the light of the pro Abortion movement?
Where are their Rights?

When are the Father's of those same Fetuses, going to get a voice, in the light of the pro Abortion movement?
Where are their Rights?

And when are the families, who have lost ones to the illegal actions, of a family member, being killed by a criminal, or an offender, in the light of the anti Death Penalty movement?
Where are their Rights? 
 

TKDB said:

@piloteer

You've been .

We_are_accountable said:

@ZeusAres42

You refuse to admit what you support, so you insult me. This is the modus operandi of most people on the Left. Who do you think you are fooling?

The day I debate an honest Pro abortion person will be the day I die. Your barbaric support of No Restriction abortion when voting for politicians keeping it legal, is truly barbaric yet it is hypocrites like you who say you care about the lives of mass murderers.

It never was legal.
It was simply allowed as the principal questioned by the court as wrong was never corrected and simply moved from Texas legislation to federal legislation. Abortion has always been an invasion of privacy due to self-incrimination. In basic abortion tells us murder is to take place on otherwise what would be a female-specific amputation does not tell us that. 

@John_C_879

Is an Abortion, (outside of Rape or Incest,) an example of a humane death?

If so, when a human hypothetically kills another human, is that an example of a humane death? 

And if so, isn't the hypothetical execution of a convicted inmate, an example of a humane death?


Who gets to write the Rules of the Pro Life conversation?

The pro Abortion crowd?

The pro Criminal, or Offender crowd?

Or the Public itself, who has lost loved ones to both the actions of some of the Abortion clinics, or to the criminals or offenders, who have killed thousands of innocent people, for decades now? 

When are the Fetuses going to get a voice, in the light of the pro Abortion movement?
Where are their Rights?

When are the Father's of those same Fetuses, going to get a voice, in the light of the pro Abortion movement?
Where are their Rights?

And when are the families, who have lost ones to the illegal actions, of a family member, being killed by a criminal, or an offender, in the light of the anti Death Penalty movement?
Where are their Rights?   

@We_are_accountable


If you cannot take being insulted then perhaps you should not dish them out. By the way I'm still waiting for an explanation about how someone stating that you need to be consistent with your pro-life views also means saying that you agree babies should be murdered? Please explain your reasoning here or would you prefer to continue hammering away at those straws? Or maybe you will just run away like last time.

And that's let alone the erroneous things you have said Which are ultimately inconsistent with your prolife views. But by all means continue to rationalize your views to yourself if it makes you feel better. 

TKDB said:

@ZeusAres42

How does insulting anyone create a learning, or educational moment, from any debate?

"If you cannot take being insulted then perhaps you should not dish them out."

And what does your above statement, have to do with the theme of this specific forum?

With Objections: The Death Penalty 

And it's insulting that some of the prisoners on Death Row, view being executed as inhumane?

They inhumanely took lives, through committing their illegal crimes, so they in a sense are hypocrites.

We_are_accountable said:

@ZeusAres42

You are pro choice and I refuse to address a mindless question when we both know what you support. I'm OBVIOUSLY talking to pro choice people who try to compare the lives of mass murderers, to innocent babies.

F.Y.I The babies are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law and your implication is a military tribunal cannot count as Court of law in this matter.

@ZeusAres42

We have a justice system and judges who will decide the penalty for deliberately killing an unborn baby, out of pure convenience, when it becomes illegal once again.

I do not get caught up in the punishment for crimes. I get caught up in a barbaric society that makes it legal to kill our most vulnerable innocent children for pure convenience.

Where the problem begins to exist is not all women had been created equal by their creator. So when both women and men together had moved politically, by the practice of law and legislation making effort to clear woman of admission of murder it came without a pardon from the Court's. In writing, writing just came from the political arena.

Again this is more of an explanation of the union made on behalf of the state of President and Presadera.