What's more humane?

MayCaesar

Abortion and adoption are different things and cannot be compared in terms of humanity.

Death penalty is inhumane, and not killing an innocent person or a mass of innocent people is humane.

Both coming into United States legally and smuggling oneself are equally humane, as no one else's life is affected in the process.

Using or not using marijuana are both equally humane, as no one else's life is affected in the process.

TKDB

@MayCaesar

Abortion, kills a fetus, therefore it's inhumane.

(And I challenge you, @Dee, or @Plaffelvohfen, to present a definition, that the killing of a fetus isn't inhumane?)

Adoption is 1000% Humane.

"Abortion and adoption are different things and cannot be compared in terms of humanity."

@MayCaesar it's called Life, and Death.

 "Abortion and adoption are different things and cannot be compared in terms of humanity."

Yes, they can be compared, because Abortion affects humanity on a global scale, and while those global abortions are going on, those baby's who weren't killed via Abortion, are being Adopted by responsible and humane humans, who want to be parents.


"Death penalty is inhumane,"

Where's your non pro Death Penalty evidence, that can state, that the Death Penalty isn't humane?

Who's helping you, write your counter argument for you, the NAACP, or the ACLU?

"and not killing an innocent person or a mass of innocent people is humane."

And when lawful and civilized people, refrain from being inhumane, that's what being humane looks like


@MayCaesar

Are you a pediatrician, or a family doctor, or a DOCTOR in general?

And you have REAL WORLD evidence, that states, that a parents illegal and legalized drug use, (Marijuana, Meth, Cocaine, Heroin, LSD, Opioids, and the other illegal street drug's,) being indulged in, around their own kids is humane?

Those parents who have been arrested for cooking methamphetamine, in their own homes, that's the action of a humane parent, or parents?

A marijuana addict, smoking weed around their own newborns, that's a humane action? 

"Using or not using marijuana are both equally humane, as no one else's life is affected in the process.

John_C_87

The Death Penalty, or a criminal or an offender, not killing an innocent person, or a mass of innocent people, during the illegal activity of committing any crime?

First, the baby is not innocent the minor is presumed innocent. Second, you are not a potential juror in a military-type tribunal, Third, you are using an illegal confession created by abortion to violate a constitutional Civil Right of the baby. According to Roe Versus Wade 1973.

What is more humane the female-specific amputation as a united state or adoption, FSA as adoptions fail and conditional place a person into the custody of a legal State.

TKDB you really need to just ask one question at a time you are touching us and yourself with so much bad news.

Dee

@TKDB

You’ve posted up this debate because you claimed and cannot defend that  you’re pro -life yet contradicted yourself by claiming you supported the death penalty 

You claimed murderers deserved the death penalty and you said women who abort are murderers therefore they deserve the death penalty , now you’re crying because you cannot as usual back your B S up

****(And I challenge you, @Dee, or @Plaffelvohfen, to present a definition, that the killing of a fetus isn't inhumane?

The termination of a fetus is in fact humane if a woman does not want to give birth,  to deny the right to abort is inhumane.

You don’t like U S law well move to Saudi Arabia they share similar anti women’s rights laws there ......safe trip ....

John_C_87

@Dee ;
Our difference is made clear in the category you are creating for all women when you write. Termination of a fetus is, in fact, humane if a woman does not want to give birth. A constitutional method of addressing this union can be made between women and birth. Not women and men, this by saying the termination of a fetus is, in fact, humane when the risk of the burden of citizenship is directed in place of lethal force. 

The Federal law regarding Pregnancy abortion is as wrong now as the original Texas law. Privacy loss is still the crime and nothing has been done over the past 47 years to make a correction. 47 years is ample time to believe a group of educated people could figure something so basic out. Female-specific amputation is not pregnancy abortion. Is it? Privacy, its the next best thing to being there.

John_C_87

F.Y.I.

Immaculate conception did not take place by screwing people over with bad legislation of law, it only created children out of grown women and men.

Plaffelvohfen

The most humane (compassionate/considerate) thing to do would actually be, to stop procreating altogether...  

TKDB

@Dee

You can make any Self Serving proclamation that you may wish to pass off as your own Truth, because you say so?

You cannot state that any Abortion procedure done outside of Rape or Incest is humane, can you?

Why don't you reach out to one of the Abortion clinics in your neighborhood, and have them assist you with any REAL WORLD information, stated from their own published abortion policies, that any Abortion outside of Rape, or Incest, that is done on their property, is humane because they may say so as well.
(@Dee, you won't make the effort, because your opinion, means more than any of the factual facts apparently do, right?)


Because Abortion is legal in the United Kingdom, right?

So you should be able to gather up some "REAL WORLD Abortion information," that has hasn't been conjured up from your own rationalization process?


Examples of your self serving proclamations:

"You’ve posted up this debate because you claimed and cannot defend that  you’re pro -life yet contradicted yourself by claiming you supported the death penalty 

You claimed murderers deserved the death penalty and you said women who abort are murderers therefore they deserve the death penalty , now you’re crying because you cannot as usual back your B S up"

****(And I challenge you, @Dee, or @Plaffelvohfen, to present a definition, that the killing of a fetus isn't inhumane?

The termination of a fetus is in fact humane if a woman does not want to give birth,  to deny the right to abort is inhumane.

You don’t like U S law well move to Saudi Arabia they share similar anti women’s rights laws there ......safe trip ...."


@Dee

Go ahead, and go to the nearest Abortion clinic near, and tell the Internet what they said, in regards to an Abortion being humane to any fetus, outside of Rape, or Incest? 

Dee

@TKDB

You’ve posted up this debate because you claimed and cannot defend that  you’re pro -life yet contradicted yourself by claiming you supported the death penalty 

You claimed murderers deserved the death penalty and you said women who abort are murderers therefore they deserve the death penalty , now you’re crying because you cannot as usual back your B S up

****(And I challenge you, @Dee, or @Plaffelvohfen, to present a definition, that the killing of a fetus isn't inhumane?

The termination of a fetus is in fact humane if a woman does not want to give birth,  to deny the right to abort is inhumane.

You don’t like U S law well move to Saudi Arabia they share similar anti women’s rights laws there ......safe trip ....

RadicalCentrist

@TKDB Let me propose a comparison. There are two scenarios. In one, a teenager has sex and, knowing that she doesn't have the money to take care of it and also knowing how excruciating childbirth is, decides to abort it. In the next, she just doesn't have sex. The abortion, being done early, before brain waves show up, is painless for all parties involved. Thus, what is the difference in population between these two answers? I know most people who are pro life would say the second is what you should do if you don't want children, but since there is no difference why should abortion be illegal? There is no increase in life either way.

TKDB

@Plaffelvohfen

@Dee

@MayCaesar


I Googled, Is Abortion humane?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/abortion/philosophical/introduction.shtml

"Introduction to the abortion debate

Definition

Abortion is the deliberate termination of a pregnancy.

Arguments against abortion

People who believe abortion is morally wrong use arguments like the following.

Killing people is wrong

• killing innocent human beings is wrong
• human life begins at conception
• therefore the foetus is an innocent human being
• therefore killing the foetus is wrong
• therefore abortion is always wrong

A foetus is a person

• A foetus has a unique genetic code
• A foetus is a unique individual

Killing potential people is wrong

• it is wrong to destroy potential human life
• from conception onwards the foetus is a potential human being
• therefore it is wrong to destroy the foetus
• therefore abortion is always wrong

Killing beings with 'a future like ours' is wrong

• it is wrong to kill beings that would have a future like ours if they lived
• in most cases the foetus, if not aborted, would have a future like ours
• it is wrong to kill such a foetus
• therefore abortion is usually wrong

Causing pain is wrong

• it is wrong to cause pain and suffering
• a foetus is sufficiently developed to feel pain by 18 weeks
• therefore it is wrong to carry out an abortion after 18 weeks of pregnancy

Increasing tolerance of killing is wrong

• allowing abortion is legalising killing
• legalising killing reduces people's respect for life
• reducing society's respect for life is a bad thing - it may lead to euthanasia, genocide and increased murder rates
• therefore abortion is always wrong

Arguments in favour of abortion (in selected cases)

Most of these arguments are to be read in the context of the first two arguments above. People who don't believe abortion is always morally wrong use arguments like this:

The foetus is not necessarily a 'person' with the right to live

• a collection of human cells does not have the right to live just because it is of the human species
  • otherwise amputating a limb would be murder
• a collection of human cells only has the right to live by virtue of certain facts
• these are either:
  • it has reached a particular stage of development that makes it a moral 'person'
  • it possesses certain properties that make it a moral 'person'

It is not always wrong to end the life of an innocent person

• there are many cases where we have to choose which of two innocent people will live and which will die:
  • conjoined twins, where the operation to separate them may cause one twin to die
  • mountaineering, when one person can only save their own life by cutting the rope supporting a fallen colleague
  • the case of a woman who had to abandon one of her children to save the other

'Potential human beings' don't have rights

• only 'actual' human beings have rights

The pregnant woman has moral rights too

• under some circumstances these may override the foetus's right to live
• these moral rights include:
  • the right to ownership of her own body
  • the right to decide her own future
  • the right to take decisions without moral or legal intervention by others
• the pregnant woman has the right to life - where not aborting the foetus would put the mother's life or health in danger, she has the moral right to abort the foetus "

Dee

@TKDB

***** I Googled, Is Abortion humane?

Good for you let us all know when you actually ever have a thought of your own , when that day comes your lone thought would die of loneliness 

TKDB

@Dee

@Plaffelvohfen

@MayCaesar

If you any of you can show any PUBLISHED evidence stating that any person who has been hypothetically killed by a criminal or an offender via Murder, is "The definition of a Humane action? 

Then I will agree, that an Abortion done outside of Rape or Incest is humane as well?

Can any of the three of you, provide that kind of evidence? 

Dee

@TKDB

You’re guilty of......

False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.A colloquial expression of false equivalency is "comparing apples and oranges".

TKDB

@Dee

I knew you wouldn't have any PUBLISHED evidence.


"You’re guilty of......

False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.A colloquial expression of false equivalency is "comparing apples and oranges". "

Dee

@TKDB

***** I knew you wouldn't have any PUBLISHED evidence


Get a grown up to explain it to you ......Are you still beating your kids?

"You’re guilty of......

False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.A colloquial expression of false equivalency is "comparing apples and oranges". "

ZeusAres42

TKDB said:

Abortion or Adoption?

The Death Penalty, or a criminal or an offender, not killing an innocent person, or a mass of innocent people, during the illegal activity of committing any crime?

Coming into the United States legally, or smuggling one's self, and or, other family members, into the U.S. Illegally via trespassing through the Southern Border?

Using, or not using, legal or illegal marijuana, (or the other illegal street drug's,) around one's own kid's, or other family members? 

In the above common real world situations, what's more humane? 

What exactly is the argument you're trying to make here @TKDB? Is it about abortion, adoption, the death penalty, drugs or what? Perhaps draft a copy next time might be helpful, engage in a bit more planning etc. You want the reader to know what the issue is. Then you want to argue your case clearly and concisely. As it is, you've listed multiple things like something out of more of a poll than a debate.

Plaffelvohfen

@TKDB

I'll repeat: The most humane (compassionate/considerate) thing to do, is to stop procreating altogether...  

To be "humane" is to show compassion right? To alleviate/prevent needless suffering, correct? If we were to establish a scale, I'd say Adoption would be on the lower part of that scale... Still a humane thing to do no doubt about it, but not the most humane one. 

Intentionally killing someone can be humane and compassionate too, think of Euthanasia... Imagine being involved in an accident where you lose both arms and legs, lose sight, speech & hearing, you are completely cut off from the world and unable to communicate at all.  Is ending such a life humane or not? I say yes... 

Abortion is a humane thing to do too, it prevents needless suffering for the mother (either the pains of childbirth itself or the socio-economic burden involved in raising a child to adulthood), it also stops in its track any future harm to the baby. An aborted baby will never hurt or know pain of any kind...

If we define "humane" as being the characteristic of an action that causes the less possible suffering, abortion is overall, more humane than adoption... 

piloteer

Dee said:

@TKDB

You’ve posted up this debate because you claimed and cannot defend that  you’re pro -life yet contradicted yourself by claiming you supported the death penalty 

You claimed murderers deserved the death penalty and you said women who abort are murderers therefore they deserve the death penalty , now you’re crying because you cannot as usual back your B S up

****(And I challenge you, @Dee, or @Plaffelvohfen, to present a definition, that the killing of a fetus isn't inhumane?

The termination of a fetus is in fact humane if a woman does not want to give birth,  to deny the right to abort is inhumane.

You don’t like U S law well move to Saudi Arabia they share similar anti women’s rights laws there ......safe trip ....

It was even funnier the second time you posted it.

ZeusAres42

Plaffelvohfen said:

@TKDB

I'll repeat: The most humane (compassionate/considerate) thing to do, is to stop procreating altogether...  

To be "humane" is to show compassion right? To alleviate/prevent needless suffering, correct? If we were to establish a scale, I'd say Adoption would be on the lower part of that scale... Still a humane thing to do no doubt about it, but not the most humane one. 

Intentionally killing someone can be humane and compassionate too, think of Euthanasia... Imagine being involved in an accident where you lose both arms and legs, lose sight, speech & hearing, you are completely cut off from the world and unable to communicate at all.  Is ending such a life humane or not? I say yes... 

Abortion is a humane thing to do too, it prevents needless suffering for the mother (either the pains of childbirth itself or the socio-economic burden involved in raising a child to adulthood), it also stops in its track any future harm to the baby. An aborted baby will never hurt or know pain of any kind...

If we define "humane" as being the characteristic of an action that causes the less possible suffering, abortion is overall, more humane than adoption... 

@Plaffelvohfen that's why I precisely introduced the scenario to these self-proclaimed prolifers that involved abortion being the only way to save the mothers life or to save her from being in a vegetable state. As expected I was told I was debating fiction and the issue was avoided even though these things do and have happened.

All this stuff boils down to one's own subjective sense of morality and then their rationalizations for that subjective sense of morality.

In the scenario, I presented according to one person they might find it immoral to bring a child up with no mother or even worse a mother in a permanent vegetable state. However, I do understand that the vegetable state is probably a lot more unlikely than death.

piloteer

@TKDB

It is my belief that @Plaffelvohfen has made a solid argument against you that you cannot refute. It is inhumane to force a woman to have an abortion. It is inhumane to force a child to live in a world where they were unwanted. And it is inhumane to force a woman to have an abortion in a world where many people believe we are overpopulated. It is also inhumane to take the life of a criminal if they committed an unacceptably egregious crime. 

Let me answer the questions you're about to ask me now.

Yes, I do believe my personal view can be supported with literature. 

Yes, I do think my self serving opinion fits in with social morality.

No, just because I support abortion rights does not mean I'm anti-family, anti-life, pro-criminal  and anti-American.      

TKDB

@piloteer

But it's not inhumane for a criminal with a rifle to walk up to a Wal-Mart in Texas and slaughter 20 plus people with inhumane gun violence?

@Plaffelvohfen

I get your stance, but giving a lazy male and female the benefit of the doubt because they were lazy about using contraceptives before creating an unwanted fetus, is an inhumane act, because Abortion gives these two lazy individuals a way out, being that they were ignorant, and were only thinking about themselves?

Abortion is how some lazy adults, clean up after their own stupidity, or ignorance.

At least Adoption, gives some fetuses a chance at LIFE, because the only lives that those lazy procreators care about, is their own selfish lifestyles.

@Plaffelvohfen

"Intentionally killing someone can be humane and compassionate too, think of Euthanasia... Imagine being involved in an accident where you lose both arms and legs, lose sight, speech & hearing, you are completely cut off from the world and unable to communicate at all.  Is ending such a life humane or not? I say yes... 

Abortion is a humane thing to do too, it prevents needless suffering for the mother (either the pains of childbirth itself or the socio-economic burden involved in raising a child to adulthood), it also stops in its track any future harm to the baby. An aborted baby will never hurt or know pain of any kind...

If we define "humane" as being the characteristic of an action that causes the less possible suffering, abortion is overall, more humane than adoption... "

onethinhandle56

  

piloteer

@TKDB

Yes. It would be equally inhumane for a criminal with a rifle to walk up to a Wal-Mart in Texas and slaughter 20 plus people with inhumane gun violence. Did you have an argument to counter the claim that it is inhumane to disallow abortion because it helps with curbing overpopulation?

TKDB

@piloteer

What website, has the published information that you're mentioning?

"Did you have an argument to counter the claim that it is inhumane to disallow abortion because it helps with curbing overpopulation?"

@piloteer

People die from Alzheimer's, dementia, ALS,  aneurysms, seizures, cancer, heart attacks, strokes, kidney failure, and other ailments everyday on this planet.

Show me where the people who have died from those non Abortion ailments, that those specific diseases are viewed as ways to curb overpopulation? 

TKDB

@piloteer

Let me answer the questions you're about to ask me now.

"Yes, I do believe my personal view can be supported with literature."

Where's your literature?


"Yes, I do think my self serving opinion fits in with social morality."

Where is your evidence, that states that Abortion fits any Social Morality?

No, just because I support abortion rights does not mean I'm anti-family, anti-life, pro-criminal  and anti-American."

Abortion IS anti Family, anti Fetus, anti Life, anti Community, and anti Humanity.

Plaffelvohfen

TKDB said:

@Plaffelvohfen

I get your stance, but giving a lazy male and female the benefit of the doubt because they were lazy about using contraceptives before creating an unwanted fetus, is an inhumane act, because Abortion gives these two lazy individuals a way out, being that they were ignorant, and were only thinking about themselves?

Abortion is how some lazy adults, clean up after their own stupidity, or ignorance.

At least Adoption, gives some fetuses a chance at LIFE, because the only lives that those lazy procreators care about, is their own selfish lifestyles.

LIFE is a sarcastic joke, and then you die... Why should I care about this whole subjective notion of "laziness"? It's irrelevant, it's clutching at straws... 

TKDB

@Plaffelvohfen

"LIFE is a sarcastic joke, and then you die... Why should I care about this whole subjective notion of "laziness"?
It's irrelevant, it's clutching at straws... "

Abortion is the act of clutching at straws.

Adoption, gives the fetus, a chance at a LIFE, that it's procreating parents didn't want, right?

Abortion is an act of laziness.

Adoption, is an act of human beings acting in a responsible manner, or a way of life.

Adoption, takes work, takes sacrifice, takes patience, it takes a family, acting like a family, to help an Adoption succeed.

Yeah, an abortion is lazy, while adoption takes work.

MayCaesar

@TKDB ;

It is not lazy; it is pragmatic. When you go to a grocery store, you take the shortest road you know, do you not? You do not first go to a different city, then to one more city, then back and only then to the grocery store; it would be a waste of time.

Similarly, raising a kid or going through the whole childbirth process to give the kid away for adoption might be a waste of time for people with certain life plans and values. Does not have to have anything to do with laziness; the woman choosing to abort a fetus might be a CEO running multiple companies and sleeping 3 hours a day, and she does not want her business career to be impaired by the pregnancy and childbirth process.

What is this with men giving women lectures anyway? "Lazy", huh? Have you ever gone through pregnancy and given birth to someone? I prefer to not tell people going through something I will never have to how to behave, because I obviously do not know what it is like to be in their shoes; neither should you.

Plaffelvohfen

@TKDB

A chance at life???? To live is to die, Life is death...

Please explain to me how any notion of laziness are relevant with regards to abortion... I am not a christian, this whole idea of "sacrifice" as a virtue is irrelevant to me...

Dee

@piloteer

Hi Piloteer thanks a lot , @TKDB is a knob and deserves everything he gets 

TKDB

@Plaffelvohfen

Explaining myself to you again.

"LIFE is a sarcastic joke, and then you die... Why should I care about this whole subjective notion of "laziness"?
It's irrelevant, it's clutching at straws... "

Abortion is the act of clutching at straws.

Adoption, gives the fetus, a chance at a LIFE, that it's procreating parents didn't want, right?

Abortion is an act of laziness.

Adoption, is an act of human beings acting in a responsible manner, or a way of life.

Adoption, takes work, takes sacrifice, takes patience, it takes a family, acting like a family, to help an Adoption succeed.

Yeah, an abortion is lazy, while adoption takes work. 

@Plaffelvohfen

What are you anti Adoption?

TKDB

@Dee
"@piloteer
Hi Piloteer thanks a lot , @TKDB is a knob and deserves everything he gets "

@MayCaesar

@piloteer

What are you all, anti Adoption?

Adoption, is an act of human beings acting in a responsible manner, or a way of life.

Adoption, takes work, takes sacrifice, takes patience, it takes a family, acting like a family, to help an Adoption succeed.

Yeah, an abortion is lazy, while adoption takes work.  

TKDB

@MayCaesar

May, or ma'am:

Two simple word's for the lazy lady in your fictional hypothetical:

Birth control.

She and her partner, can use it before being intimate, can't they?

Dee

@TKDB

***** What are you all, anti Adoption?

Why are you anti woman’s choice?

****Adoption, is an act of human beings acting in a responsible manner, or a way of life.

Abortion is an act of a human being acting in a responsible way 

****Adoption, takes work, takes sacrifice, takes patience, it takes a family, acting like a family, to help an Adoption succeed.

How many have you adopted so far?

****Yeah, an abortion is lazy, while adoption takes work.  

How many have you adopted or are you “lazy”?

TKDB

@Dee

You love having your way with another person's words, don't you?

In the real world, away from your keyboard, how's that way of yours working?

Adoption is pro Mom, pro Dad, pro Family, pro Community, and pro Humanity.

While all an Abortionist can do, is look at the Adoption family, and stare at them?

@Dee
@Plaffelvohfen
@MayCaesar

And a great way to curb any abortion notion to begin with, is the use of contraceptives.

John_C_87

Dee said:

@TKDB

You’re guilty of......

False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.A colloquial expression of false equivalency is "comparing apples and oranges".

So, you are saying prejudice from a man against women and prejudice from a woman against women should be the consideration in all female-specific amputations legalities? False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. Much like the kind of reasoning when self-incrimination to murder is set against a loss of patient privacy?

John_C_87

TKDB said:

@Dee
You love having your way with another person's words, don't you?
In the real world, away from your keyboard, how's that way of yours working?
Adoption is pro Mom, pro Dad, pro Family, pro Community, and pro Humanity.
While all an Abortionist can do, is look at the Adoption family, and stare at them?
And a great way to curb any abortion notion to begin with, is the use of contraceptives.

Your issue TKDB is in a sophisticated form of illegal immigration into a nation and/or nation. The idea of using the self-incrimination like abortion set in public this way can be seen as treasonous to the wellbeing of the general welfare of society. America has no abortions that took place after 1973 they had been described as illegal. Though slow, at an almost unheard-of level, America is now at enforcement of the law stage to their abolishment. A female-specific amputation may be a pregnancy termination, it does not create a united state of the fact who is single out for pregnancy termination when it takes place.

Plaffelvohfen

TKDB said:

@Dee
@Plaffelvohfen
@MayCaesar

And a great way to curb any abortion notion to begin with, is the use of contraceptives.

Yes it is, obviously... But that says nothing about the "humane" nature of abortion (which is your very own topic btw) ...
Are you under the impression that women who have abortions never use contraception????

You should do your research, here are some numbers... https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db327.htm

Dee

@TKDB


*****You love having your way with another person's words, don't you?

You love having your way with another person's words, don't you?

*****In the real world, away from your keyboard, how's that way of yours working?

*In the real world, away from your keyboard, how's that way of yours working?

*****Adoption is pro Mom, pro Dad, pro Family, pro Community, and pro Humanity.

How many have you adopted? What’s that Walton’s mountain bit of moralizing got to do with Abortion?

****While all an Abortionist can do, is look at the Adoption family, and stare at them?

Really? How do you know that?

@Dee 
@Plaffelvohfen 
@MayCaesar

*****And a great way to curb any abortion notion to begin with, is the use of contraceptives.

Maybe start using them then?

TKDB

@Dee

@piloteer

@Plaffelvohfen

@MayCaesar

Do you all know what one human being killing another human being, in a sense amounts to?

Post birth abortion, or Adult abortion. 

Those gun violence mass shooter crimes, that's an example of Adult abortion. 

And all of those Adult abortions, are inhumane. 

Dee

@TKDB

***** Do you all know what one human being killing another human being, in a sense amounts to?

Self defence? Murder? Accident? War? Mercy killing?

****Post birth abortion

What are you on smack ?

, ****or Adult abortion. 

Adults cannot be aborted you really are offensively thick

*****Those gun violence mass shooter crimes, that's an example of Adult abortion. 

Right so gun violence is .......abortion !!!! 

****And all of those Adult abortions, are inhumane.  

Okaaay so an adult is actually a ......fetus .......ooooooookay got ya 

Dee

@TKDB

***** Do you all know what one human being killing another human being, in a sense amounts to?

Self defence? Murder? Accident? War? Mercy killing?

****Post birth abortion

What are you on smack ?

, ****or Adult abortion. 

Adults cannot be aborted you really are offensively thick

*****Those gun violence mass shooter crimes, that's an example of Adult abortion. 

Right so gun violence is .......abortion !!!! 

****And all of those Adult abortions, are inhumane.  

Okaaay so an adult is actually a ......fetus .......ooooooookay got ya 

TKDB

@Dee

***** Do you all know what one human being killing another human being, in a sense amounts to?

"Self defence? Murder? Accident? War? Mercy killing?"

Do Mercy killings perform Abortions on females?

Does WAR perform Abortions on females?

Does Self defense perform Abortions on females?

Does Murder perform Abortions on females? 

So if none of the above situations, can perform Abortions on any females, then why would you go out of your way to use any of them as a pro Abortion counter argument tactic?

@Dee, I debate on the Grounds of fairness and equality, while you debate with ridicule from behind your profile name "Dee."

Adoption is a fair and equal equivalent to Abortion, and those lazy males and females, who procreate recklessly need to get some "Contraceptives Education" between their ears, and respect life, outside of their self-serving lifestyles, and grow some "Responsibility" chains between their ears as well.

Because 55 million abortions a year, shows the global public, just how irresponsible some males and females are when it comes to playing with life, when it comes to the practice of Abortion.

Dee

@TKDB

 *****Keep educating me, with your pro Abortion preachings.

Well seeing as you now think an adult is a fetus I honestly don’t think you even know what abortion is

Anyway you’ve admitted you’re not pro -life so what’s your problem? 

Plaffelvohfen

TKDB said:

@Dee

Keep educating me, with your pro Abortion preachings.

You've demonstrated many times that you are ineducable... It's not like we haven't tried you know...

TKDB

@Dee

Here, you forgot this pro Adoption response to your pro Abortion teachings:


***** Do you all know what one human being killing another human being, in a sense amounts to?

"Self defence? Murder? Accident? War? Mercy killing?"

Do Mercy killings perform Abortions on females?

Does WAR perform Abortions on females?

Does Self defense perform Abortions on females?

Does Murder perform Abortions on females? 

So if none of the above situations, can perform Abortions on any females, then why would you go out of your way to use any of them as a pro Abortion counter argument tactic?

@Dee, I debate on the Grounds of fairness and equality, while you debate with ridicule from behind your profile name "Dee."

Adoption is a fair and equal equivalent to Abortion, and those lazy males and females, who procreate recklessly need to get some "Contraceptives Education" between their ears, and respect life, outside of their self-serving lifestyles, and grow some "Responsibility" chains between their ears as well.

Because 55 million abortions a year, shows the global public, just how irresponsible some males and females are when it comes to playing with life, when it comes to the practice of Abortion. 

TKDB

@Plaffelvohfen

You've demonstrated that you're you, when it comes to your unequal and unfair debate practices.

"You've demonstrated many times that you are ineducable... It's not like we haven't tried you know..."

You mean those lazy males and females, who failed to use contraceptives prior to procreating, are Ineducable, when it comes to creating an Abortion needing moment?

Instead of using contraceptives to prevent creating an unwanted fetus?

Thank you for teaching me that new word, it sheds more light on those lazy males and females, and their inability to comprehend their basic pregnancy prevention practices?

Maybe some have "purposeful mental disabilities" when it comes to some common sense issues?

in·ed·u·ca·ble

/inˈejəkəbəl/

adjective

1. considered incapable of being educated, especially (formerly) as a result of mental disability.

John_C_87

There has been no education on the issue of invasion of privacy as it relates to abortions as law. NONE! Since 1973, so yes it is like you have not even tried to teach anyone anything.

Dee

@TKDB

I actually think you’re mentally insane , you said......***** Those gun violence mass shooter crimes, that's an example of Adult abortion. 

And all of those Adult abortions, are inhumane. ****

You’re nuts