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In Luke 12:13-15, Jesus is approached with a redistribution request. " Then someone called from the crowd, “Teacher, please tell my brother to divide our father’s estate with me.” Jesus replied, “Friend, who made me a judge over you to decide such things as that?” Then he said, “Beware! Guard against every kind of greed. Life is not measured by how much you own.”
Life is not about equity. Seems Jesus wasn't into socialism nor critical race theory either.
In Jesus' parable of the 3 talents. When one servant buries his coin and doesn't put it to good use, the master takes it from him and gives it to a more productive servant. That doesn't seem like a socialist message to me.
Jesus told another parable about workers going out to work in a field. This one definitely upholds capitalistic virtues rather than socialist ones. At the end of the day the owner pays the people who worked less the same as those who had worked all day. When some workers complained it wasn't fair - the owner of the vineyard said 'isn't that what you agreed to work for. " He essentially defends the right of voluntary contract, private property, and, in effect, the law of supply and demand.
Some socialists mistakenly think Jesus disdained the rich - that is not true. He disdained greed and envy - whether it originated from the rich or poor. Socialist often forget that poor people can have a love for money too - its just they don't have a lot of their own money to love. For him, life was not about possessions, nor power, but about loving God and loving others as you love yourself.
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Jesus supported helping the poor, but that was through personal action - and through the church, not government. Jesus supported capitalistic ideas such as meritocracy (3 talent parable), voluntary contract (laborer parable), private property (multiple parables). I don't see any parables where Jesus said that we should raise taxes or give the government more control of the means of production. Sometimes when Jesus mentioned government officials in his parables they were corrupt (such as the parable of the persistent widow). In the parable of the good Samaritan, it is a private citizen who helps the man attacked and gives out of his own pocket to help him - that's the opposite of looking to government to help those in need.
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Jesus definitely comes across as a kind of anarcho-communist. I think Muslims got a prophet better matching their modern culture: their prophet outright says that conquest is a manifestation of Allah's will. Christians used to think the same about their god, but over time dissenting voices shattered that interpretation for the most part. They did not shatter the fundamental premise though.
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The entire Bible belongs to Jesus as He is the Living Word....
Including commands to kill babies, commit genocides and everything.
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Nothing has been changed...the written word has been carefully preserved by the omnipotent Holy Spirit down through the ages though the Bible was ravaged, hated, burned, ostracized, the Holy Spirit has meticulously maintained, preserved, the Word of Elohim so that I can know Him personally;
Well yes it has changed over the years. The fact we have 100 different translations, transliterations and versions circulating today attest to that fact. Your own argument to me when I proved to you your god created evil according to your book; contends the KJV was "rushed" and had to be corrected. Of course your argument fell short because 'evil' and 'calamity' are used interchangeably in the dispensation of the message in Isaiah are one in the same. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. See, just as @maxx said, you do not understand the history of your religion.
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Nothing has been changed...the written word has been carefully preserved by the omnipotent Holy Spirit down through the ages though the Bible was ravaged, hated, burned, ostracized, the Holy Spirit has meticulously maintained, preserved, the Word of Elohim so that I can know Him personally;
Well yes it has changed over the years. The fact we have 100 different translations, transliterations and versions circulating today attest to that fact. Your own argument to me when I proved to you your god created evil according to your book; contends the KJV was "rushed" and had to be corrected. Of course your argument fell short because 'evil' and 'calamity' are used interchangeably in the dispensation of the message in Isaiah are one in the same. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. See, just as @maxx said, you do not understand the history of your religion.
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Genesis 3:22 'The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever. '
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No, I reckon he was no more than a self-centered extreme right manipulating social path who was in tent on controlling others.
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@FactFinder, I have to ask, since you could have done a 30 second Bing search and discovered what I just mentioned for yourself, why are you an atheist? You went and looked up the Bible verse to 'prove your point', yet as someone who spent years in church, you had to have known that someone somewhere had answered the question already. It is evident that you were not won over to atheism by the overwhelming evidence for it. If that were the case, you would have shared it by now. Did something happen to make you mad at God?
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@maxx show away...
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Please don't tag me now regarding this unless you have sufficient evidence that counts as justification for your claims. If you haven't got that then I am not interested.
I respect you as a person but I can't respect a faulty epistemology. I wish you all the best.
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@ZeusAres You talk the talk...walk the walk...if my rhetoric intimidates your demon, so be it.
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Can you imagine a punk like this with a gun and a badge? God should have cleansed ricky's Adamic curse.
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Most are very incidental, an added clause, or a change of tense. Common errors when copying a text manually. When you have that many surviving copies though, you can pinpoint, where variations entered into the process, and have a good idea of what the original said. The King James translation is based on older greek texts, and the Old Testament text it used is from around 1000 AD. It didn't use the oldest or best translations. That doesn't mean it is a bad translation. The claim of many Christians is not that every Bible translation is without error, but that the message of the original autographs is God's Word.
I'll give you an example of a bigger sized variation. John 3:15. "so that everyone who believes in him will have eternal life." Doesn't appear in the oldest translations. It is a clause from John 3:16 and likely a scribal error. Does it contain a message that is not in keeping with the original message? No, it is literally a phrase from verified text. Considering that the manuscripts were all written by hand and had to be rewritten every couple of decades, the amount of variations is actually very small. If you get a chance to check out Bruce Metzer's Greek New Testament you will see how he notes all variations on the footnotes on each page and let's the user know the confidence rating of the preferred text.
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Oh please. Ancient hebrew was nothing like the bible reads today, It was mostly hieroglyphics...
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ARGUMENT TOPIC: Just sayin is a lover of big business and detests minimun wage laws yet claims he's following the teachings of Jesus, I'm convinced he never actually opened a bible and his claims to be a Christian are hilarious to be honest.
Your dishonesty is appalling the OP's contention is ......
You stated.....Beware! Guard against every kind of greed. Life is not measured by how much you own.”
That's hilarious considering you think the lowest paid in America should not be entitled to a living wage that covers , healthcare , housing , medical you detest minimun wage laws yet applaud every tax break allowed to the greediest most explotitive employers in the US , your hypocrisy is astounding.
The Bible is full of verses that demonstrate God’s heart toward the poor among us.
Let these verses about helping the poor encourage you as you seek to live a generous life, displaying the same love Christ shows to us. For while we were poor and needy, Christ died for us.
Deuteronomy 15:7 If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother.
Deuteronomy 15:11 For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, “You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.”
1 Samuel 2:7 The Lord makes poor and makes rich; he brings low and he exalts.
1 Samuel 2:8 He raises up the poor from the dust; he lifts the needy from the ash heap to make them sit with princes and inherit a seat of honor. For the pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and on them he has set the world.
Psalm 9:18 For the needy shall not always be forgotten, and the hope of the poor shall not perish forever.
Psalm 34:6 This poor man cried, and the Lord heard him and saved him out of all his troubles.
Psalm 35:10 All my bones shall say, “O Lord, who is like you, delivering the poor from him who is too strong for him, the poor and needy from him who robs him?”
Psalm 37:21The wicked borrows but does not pay back, but the righteous is generous and gives.
Psalm 40:17 As for me, I am poor and needy, but the Lord takes thought for me. You are my help and my deliverer; do not delay, O my God!
Psalm 41:1 Blessed is the one who considers the poor! In the day of trouble the Lord delivers him;
Psalm 72:12 For he delivers the needy when he calls, the poor and him who has no helper.
Proverbs 14:21 Whoever despises his neighbor is a sinner, but blessed is he who is generous to the poor.
Proverbs 14:31 Whoever oppresses a poor man insults his Maker, but he who is generous to the needy honors him.
Proverbs 16:19 It is better to be of a lowly spirit with the poor than to divide the spoil with the proud.
Proverbs 19:17 Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.
Proverbs 22:9 The generous will themselves be blessed, for they share their food with the poor.
Proverbs 22:16 Whoever oppresses the poor to increase his own wealth, or gives to the rich, will only come to poverty.
Isaiah 29:19 The meek shall obtain fresh joy in the Lord, and the poor among mankind shall exult in the Holy One of Israel.
Isaiah 41:17 When the poor and needy seek water, and there is none, and their tongue is parched with thirst, I the Lord will answer them; I the God of Israel will not forsake them.
Matthew 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mark 10:21 And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
Luke 6:20 And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said: “Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.
2 Corinthians 8:9 For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you by his poverty might become rich.
2 Corinthians 9:11 You will be enriched in every way to be generous in every way, which through us will produce thanksgiving to God.
Galatians 2:10 Only, they asked us to remember the poor, the very thing I was eager to do.
Ephesians 4:28 Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need.
1 Timothy 6:18 They are to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share.
James 2:5 Listen, my beloved brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom, which he has promised to those who love him?
James 2:14-17 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
That concludes our list of Bible verses about helping the poor among us. Reflect on this list as you go about your daily life and seek opportunities to share your generosity with those less fortunate.
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so do you believe that considering the above verses; that jesus was a right winger like yourself?
I don't see Jesus identifying with any political party. he is promoting a much different kingdom and authority. You seem to be suggesting that compassion is only the domain of leftists. How did you come to this conclusion? It seems to me you have to ignore the other side of most issues to make this conclusion. Some examples:
1) It isn't compassionate to kill an innocent human life by abortion.
2) It isn't compassionate to keep a poor Black child chained to a failed public school because it helps a teacher's union that made huge donations to Democrat candidates
3) it isn't compassionate to overspend and pub future generations in perpetual debt
4) it isn't compassionate to force people of faith to violate their faith to make cakes for unions that are against their faith.
5) It isn't compassionate to support DEI programs which discriminate against someone because of their race.
how many food banks has republicans opened up? How many social programs?
Honestly, probably most of them. Most food banks are run by religious groups which are statistically stilted toward Republicans in the US. Ask yourself when was the last time you saw atheists out feeding the poor or standing on corners collecting money for Christmas presents for poor kids? I know I've never seen it.
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@maxx Not particularly...and I loathe Islamist's
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