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Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.
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@silverishgoldnova he still sees a curve! Even after he drew a flat line on one side of it! This may be serious!
@coveny, do you see a curve here?Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.
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Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.
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I see several you don't?
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Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.
Wayne Dyer
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And yet you can't point a single logical fallacy out that I committed. It's like flat earth, you're just making that up.
Flight times are... NASA = lie in gibberish... mutter perspective... mutter refraction... mutter insults
https://www.metabunk.org/flat-earth-theory-debunked-by-short-flights-qf27-qf28-from-australia-to-south-america.t6483/
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Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.
Wayne Dyer
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Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.
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Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.
Wayne Dyer
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Ok now take that same concept of the planet not being "perfect", and it having hills and valleys and whatnots, and apply it to your heat distortion "proof" video.
That's the reason I keep saying you have one set of standards to prove flat and a completely different set to disprove round. You have no problem with something if you feel it disproves round, but if it proves round now you have an issues with the same concept.
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You can do your own search and find them. So now the map is wrong because you are wrong. Your one of those people who believes it's everyone's fault but yours. You are correct while everyone and everything else is wrong but you. To say your critical thinking is bad is an understatement.
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@Coveny
Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.
Wayne Dyer
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1) Where’s the edge?
1a - Who says there is one?
1b - MAYBE it’s really big or infinite. (It’s “logical” to assume the extra land is being hidden)
1c - Proof from 1954 interview.
1d - Proof 1907 map.
2) Where does the sun go if the earth is flat?
2a – clockwise east to west – never rises or sets – perspective magic
2b – It’s closer so it doesn’t illuminate the whole planet
3) What’s underneath the flat earth?
3a – OBVIOUSLY can’t be answered
3b – Many religions support a flat earth
3c – We don’t know
3d – Focus on military base in the earth… research that!
4) What about ships and boats disappearing over the horizon?
4a - Perspective magic – just need a zoom lens (shows a bunch of boats with the bottoms below the level of the waves)
4b – No curve at 120k feet
5) What about all the pictures of the earth?
5a – CLEARLY computer generated images
6) Why are all the other planets round?
6a – Clear they are all computer generated images as well
6b – Actually planets are round lights
6c – Logical to assume this is a flat plane and everything revolves around us
Ok stopped there couldn’t take the bulls*** anymore. So lets have a look #1 is we don’t know, #2 is it not as bright as you think it is and fades away, #3 is we don’t know, #4 yes the bottom of the boats are gone, but but but perspective magic, #5 no rebuttal just dismissed it, #6 dismissed again they are colorful and in some cases oddly shaped lights. But it’s “logical” to assume the people 100+ years ago understood the universe better, and we are the f****** center of it! (no ego has nothing to do with it… it’s logic!) it's got SO many holes, and is SO much based on 100s if not 1,000s of years ago. Wake up already you aren't impressing anyone with an speck of critical thinking.
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Civilians (the proles) aren't allowed near the boundaries of the ANTARCTIC CIRCLE due to the longest standing worldwide treaty that was signed back when they found the edge, or whatever it was. The secret is well hidden.
“#2 is it not as bright as you think it is and fades away,”
Strawman, or cherry picking? The sun has been explained several times with verifiable evidence and demonstrations, refraction (hundreds or thousands of miles of atmosphere) and perspective. You either are ignorant to it, or ignoring it.
“#3 is we don’t know”
Same as the edge. You should go to Antarctica and find out for us. “the edge” argument is also a strawman, it doesn't prove curvature, and an appeal to ignorance fallacy.
“#4 yes the bottom of the boats are gone, but but but perspective magic,”
Everyone else saw the ship reappear when it was zoomed in from zero zoom. Everyone else saw the mirror line, and some heavy refraction in the videos. You've provided no evidence and even posted a few pictures proving my point. Your rebuttal to this so far has been:
You're talking about some stuff I don't know a lot about (Refraction and perspective), so I'm just going to dismiss it and cherry pick your arguments until you repeat yourself until you get tired of me.
“#5 no rebuttal just dismissed it,”
I've explained several times that pictures aren't scientific evidence with today's technology. I could produce pictures of mermaids, Bigfoot and the lochness monster all day, is this evidence for their existence?
“#6 dismissed again they are colorful and in some cases oddly shaped lights.”
Have you any evidence for mars existence, as physical terra firma? Let me guess, pictures? From a government source? You don't say!
The rest of your post is just irrelevant crybaby sh!t, more logical fails.
Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.
Wayne Dyer
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#1 – The edge
1a - Civilians aren’t allowed
Except they are, and you are full of sh** as usual - http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/
#2 – Sun’s not bright
2a – Fallacies, I’ve explained this, blah blah
The video literally says “the sun is closer and not as bright as you think it is”. (because closer mean’s it dimmer or something) So no strawman or cherry picking this is your stance on why you cannot see the sun at all times. You’ve haven’t explained any evidence or demonstration. You just keep saying the magic of refraction and perception. Tell me again how the sun at 2,000 miles above the flat earth is going behind this mountain that’s only 2 miles high. The two don’t get “smaller” by perspective to where they merge. (they remain two separate objects) They aren’t distorted by reflection ether as both look clear. You have no “evidence” against this. You just throw words around and act like they prove something.
#3 – Underneath
Your model doesn’t know, and somehow me repeating that is an appeal to ignorance? So you say something, I repeat it, and somehow that becomes my fallacy? Wow you’re bad…
#4 – Horizon
No everyone did NOT see the ship WHOLE reappear when it zoomed in. Let me repost that picture that you never refuted to remind you. See how the bottom of the boat is gone?
#5 – Pictures of earth
5a - I could fake it, therefore it must be fake
It’s also pretty telling that even though there are photo forensics, you feel like could “fool” everyone. Not to mention the whole argument from ignorance fallacy: The pictures are false because you haven’t proven them true. (even though many creditable and reputable sources around the global have)
#6 – Planets
6a – I haven’t been to mars, so mars doesn’t exist… mutter conspiracy
Let me copy and paste. Argument from ignorance fallacy: The pictures are false because you haven’t proven them true. (even though many creditable and reputable sources around the global have)
Your logic is as bad as your critical thinking…
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The edge is infinite... but you can fly over it in 12 hours too, but hey they fly at mach 2 over antarctica. (because that's the only way a commercial plane could make YOUR distance in that time)
No map is 100% accurate - nirvana fallacy. They will never be 100% but they are plenty good to prove you are full of sh**.
I have debunked flat earth so many ways and so many times, but you guys still just keep saying perspection/reflection magic, or I can't explain that don't talk about it or it's a fallacy!
Take your anti-science, anti-intellectual bulls*** and keep it to yourself, or I will continue to eat Eisenhower's a ss because it tastes good
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I like this meme too:
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No I'm saying a "flaw" of a mile or two doesn't make commercial passenger planes go from 570 mph to 1534 mph. This means that your disproof of airplane routes because "maps are wrong" is .
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Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.
Wayne Dyer
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Scientific method: noun; a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.
Wayne Dyer
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And when I make you look like a fool with the facts you swap over to ad hominem/smack talk. (you aren't sure which it is as you don't know how they are defined)
Trying to debunk it? ROFL It's been thoroughly debunked, all you got is:
but but perspective... but but reflection... but but conspiracy theory ... but but muh bible!
Yes.. yes they can.
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http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-stream
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p6M-VgXHwwdpJarhyQYapBz-kRc6FrgdOLFAd3IfYz8/edit
https://debateisland.com/discussion/comment/18248/#Comment_18248 (Me officially stating that I am no longer a flat-Earther)
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