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@Factfinder ; You have chosen the path of the fool...walk in it. Jesus is LIFE...without Him, you die in nihilism.
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Another ":rager" from the God hater. Sigh. B-r-o, see a therapist already.
The fact you can't see the obvious play on ricky's words I used is almost as revealing as the total lack of evidence of god and speaks volumes about your state of mental health. One can not hate what doesn't exist although one can hate how religion dumbs people down. Your last post proves.
Blaise Pascal, using decision theory principles, claimed that it makes sense to live ones life consistent with the belief that God exists. This is based on potential outcomes. If God doesn't exist then whatever may be lost is a finite loss. However, if god is real, the losses are infinite. Further, he concluded that a life lived for God by the skeptic would result in finite positive outcomes also.
But the obvious fallacy of Pascal's wager is it's not talking in the context of actual faith in god but rather an attempt to hedge a bet to stay out of hell. Two different things which Christians tend to avoid serious contemplation about as it feels to close to doubting the existence of their preferred version of god and doubt equals losing faith which equal hell in the eyes of a believer. Almost all Christians I've come across do not proclaim the love of god but instead focus on the salvation from hell aspect. The 'bend the knee or else' approach. As "freewill".
Those who are seething mad at God tend to lie about the basic facts:
Those who project imaginary anger onto others as opposed to the internal examination of sound logical arguments against their personal non evidential claims tend to suffer insecurity issues while demonstrating great confusion between fact and fiction.
it is my experience, atheists will go to any level of denial to cling to their false claim that their is no evidence of miracles.
In reality theists will sink to any level in their futile efforts to convince themselves there is empirical evidence of god simply cause we exist and they must believe god did it or they go to hell per their mythical doctrine.
Example: If a guy has two legs. The known reality of human biological limitations on the regeneration of severed limbs, meaning it's not biologically possible, leads to only one conclusion, he never had a leg amputated. And even if it was to be considered in some way a "true miracle" the only physical evidence would be the leg itself but upon examination of the leg we find it's the guys original leg, scars and all, no regeneration took place.
But in the mindset of a theist that same physical evidence is proof positive that same guy had his leg amputated and it grew back one night and the original scars and blemishes means that after decomposing in a hole in the ground the leg walked miles to it's owner and reattached itself. They will go to great lengths to claim superstitious cult writings from the dark ages coupled with a kangaroo court of the same ignorant time in history some how constitutes verified empirical evidence that the decomposed leg did all that is claimed about it. A 20th century Catholic author says so too. LOL
Now upon the rationale rejection of such nonsensical extraordinary claims with no real evidential support; the average theist feels their faith being threatened and must come up with an excuse to calm that internal uneasy feeling of relational doubt rising about believing in such things. Compelling them to project an imaginary scenario where they just say the person who rejects their looney claims is simply mad at their imaginary god.
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Another ":rager" from the God hater. Sigh. B-r-o, see a therapist already.Factfinder said:
Ricky you don't know what truth is...you're a christian...you've opted for a nihilistic existence in Time and in Eternity...that is your free will choice...you have chosen foolishly.RickeyHoltsclaw said:@Factfinder You don't know what Truth is...you're an atheist...you've opted for a nihilistic existence in Time and in Eternity...that is your free will choice...you have chosen foolishly.
Blaise Pascal, using decision theory principles, claimed that it makes sense to live ones life consistent with the belief that God exists. This is based on potential outcomes. If God doesn't exist then whatever may be lost is a finite loss. However, if god is real, the losses are infinite. Further, he concluded that a life lived for God by the skeptic would result in finite positive outcomes also.
Those who are seething mad at God tend to lie about the basic facts:
1) There is strong evidence that Jesus died and rose from the dead - there are a number of eye witness accounts, there are lots of details that would not have been included it it had been made up (such as the women being the first witnesses), there is early attestation to the event (within 18 months of the resurrection), there is supplemental and corroborating evidence from non-Christian sources. Plus, it is very hard to explain why the apostles and Paul endured the persecution and martyrdom if they didn't think Jesus was resurrected.
2) There is evidence of miracles - there are lots of eye witness accounts - some given under oath in a court of law, medical records, peer reviewed case reports, doctor's testimony, news reports, video of the lame actually getting up and walking, etc. The atheist has to pretend thousands of recorded miracles are fake to maintain his claim that miracles don't happen. A guy on this site who has been struggling for some time with his anger towards God and claims he isn't mad at God, between his angry rants about God, once said that someone could provide evidence of God growing a limb back then he would change his opinion and admit God was real.
I happily provided him with that evidence - the miracle of Calanda. The guy in that event - had his leg amputated after an accident. He spent the winter in a hospital and then in the spring returned to his home town. After about 2 years, he prayed and that night his leg grew back. 24 eye witness accounts were recorded in a Spanish court to validate the claim, there were hundreds more witnesses, but the court limited the recorded witnesses to 24. These 24 witnesses included 3 doctors and the chaplain from the hospital that did the amputation. There were 2 medical doctors that certified that the leg had grown back. There were witnesses that had seen the man while his leg was amputated and saw it after it was restored.
That bitter old man clung to his denial that there was any evidence of miracles. I went over another half dozen different documented miracles anyway. Craig Keener has a massive collection of documented evidence of miracles in 2 volumes - each over 1000 pages long. I think I could show him all of them and it wouldn't matter. There have been some classic moments where atheists denied miracles -
a. One old geezer claimed that the miracle of a blind woman getting her eyesight back was fake and even claimed her doctor was a black bishop from Florida. Guy had the wrong man. Her doctor with an Ivy league pedigree and who had pioneered eye surgeries was from the mid-west.
b. One atheist claimed the evil twin theory for the miracle of Calanda. When it was pointed out that the guy didn't have a twin, he continued to cling to his evil twin conspiracy theory.
c. One atheist tried to say that Barbara Commiskey's healing of blindness, paralysis, and organ failure was fake, because a guy left a bad review on Yelp for her cardiologist who was the top cardiologist at the Mayo Clinic. The yelp review claimed the guy had a coupon and the doctor wouldn't give him a free heart surgery - not making this up.
it is my experience, atheists will go to any level of denial to cling to their false claim that their is no evidence of miracles.
3) There is good reason to believe a God level intelligence created the universe and started life. The evidence for a finely tuned universe, the evidence that the universe had a beginning where the universe started from zero space, and the complexity of even a single celled organism - strongly suggest that a coder made the DNA code. -
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Ricky you don't know what truth is...you're a christian...you've opted for a nihilistic existence in Time and in Eternity...that is your free will choice...you have chosen foolishly.RickeyHoltsclaw said:@Factfinder You don't know what Truth is...you're an atheist...you've opted for a nihilistic existence in Time and in Eternity...that is your free will choice...you have chosen foolishly. -
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I honor truth. Truth is your god hides behind nonexistence the way you hide behind your badge, no one is blind.RickeyHoltsclaw said:@Factfinder ; You don't honor Scripture or Jesus (the Living Word) because you're blinded by your spiritual father. -
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That's an out right lie, I haven't honored your fairytale book in a long time. Why do you choose to revel in ignorance and stupidity?RickeyHoltsclaw said:@Factfinder ; You honor "the lie."24 Therefore sGod gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to tthe dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for ua lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, vwho is blessed forever! Amen.
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I honor truth and found it. You've chosen lies and death in theism along with irrelevancy...you reap what you sow and honorRickeyHoltsclaw said:@Factfinder ; Christianity is the only Truth you will find in this LIFE....you have chosen death in atheism...you reap and sow what you honor. -
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Ricky, your entire life is a lie in Christianity...how can you therefore discern?RickeyHoltsclaw said:@MayCaesar ; May, your entire life is a lie in atheism...how can you therefore discern? -
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You don't know your creator and you think yourself wise and prudent. Lear to read and read the bible, you'll see you've been wrong and it's not okay to remain a self willed ignorant bad pig who abuses minorities like you confessed to.RickeyHoltsclaw said:That's because you don't know our Creator and you think yourself wise and prudent yet you don't know Scripture nor do you know our Creator eschatological imperatives concerning why Time exists and why you're are present within same.
