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70 per cent failure rate is reason enough for me ,you and Z love your pseudoscience it seems
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Well spotted. I found that rather amusing too.
PS: Inb4 Dee says something juvenile like me and you should get a room. Perhaps we can share the same room with him and his Islamic Extremist friend nomenclature? eh.
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I showed 78 links you d-mmy if you even cared to read the piece.
Also my statement was to do with the fact that scientists and psychologists agree profiling is nonsense , I know you and your squeeze Z disagree but cannot demonstrate why .
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I attempted a serious discussion with my opening remark on this debate and it was totally ignored , not one person even attempted to address it.
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I never get nasty unless people get nasty with me.
Those 78 links are still there denial.of such is childish.
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Interesting, I made up the 78 links and 78 scientists and psychologists papers backing up my claim, you know how desperate you sound?
Read my opening statement on this debate that's what has you all running as not one of you can address it.
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Nonsense
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Well I guess that is the best you can do, thanks for at least trying.
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That’s right so why do you keep denying that they say totally nothing at all to back up your claim and why do you keep denying that there paid editorial s that use pursuasivr language and that they are not accredited papers not one of them or did you not research that or even bother to read any of them yourself. Now stop being immature and wetting your pants all the time because man your got a heap of issues going on to put it mildly. Oh and stop your childish gas lighting and repeating. Your acting totally infantile an should leave this site because there no value in having people like you who have to behave so Stu pid
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How would you know you didn't even read one link?
Now your latest " theory " is that they were all paid ,not any are accredited and no research went into any of the 78 papers you still didn't read yet?
You do know you're nuts right?
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Every one but you has red them and every one is saying the same thing and all your diss honest diversions are not working because you have made a dum argument thts supported with nothing at all. So your got to wonder why every one is nuts except you.
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Ah right my sources have no live links only the 78 you and Barndoor keep saying don't exist. The guardian is just fine ,poisoning the well is a pretty desperate tactic much loved by losers, you're actually saying the psychologists who wrote the article are now liars and writers for a dodgy newspaper, so that's your new conspiracy theory?
You still never addressed my opening remark as you have no defence. You actually think criminal profiling is real science, WOW!
What is it you think you're doing? Do you actually think I'm going to change my mind because a conspiracy theorist and pseudoscience believer like you
assumes I belive a word a compulsive and thug like you utters?
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Only Dee has red them and every one is saying the same thing and all dishonest diversions are not working because Dee has made a brilliant argument thsts supported . So you do not have to wonder why every one is nuts except Dee.
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Nonsense, prove it? I've still 78 if you even bothered to scrool down the page of my second article , so what are you lying?
The only delusional ones here are you and Barndoor pretending the links don't exist. Here's just piece from highly respected science writer Ian Sample which Maxx and Bardoor say don't exist as anyone who disagrees with them is a or using invalid sources .......
Psychological profiling 'worse than useless'
Murder inquiries may be misled or delayed by psychologists who see themselves as real-life Crackers, researchers claim.
Police forces routinely ask behavioural scientists to draw up profiles of killers who are still at large, based on a knowledge of the victim and details recorded at the crime scene.
But according to a team of psychologists at Birmingham City University, the practice of offender profiling is deeply unscientific and risks bringing the field into disrepute.
In many cases, offender profiles are so vague as to be meaningless, according to psychologist Craig Jackson. At best, they have little impact on murder investigations; at worst they risk misleading investigators.
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I think maybe you need to read a text book on science as you confuse pseudoscience and science consistently. In the past you have claimed remote viewing is science, you claimed psychics like Edgar Cayce were healers, hypnotism was science and garlic was a miracle cure , do you begin to see a pattern here?
Also now you're openly admitting that criminal psychology is not "actual psychology " I agree at last you've seen the light.
Also denying 78 links regarding criminal profilng demonstrates how childish you are.
You still stubbornly refuse to address my opening sentence on your debate , we all know why.
Sucess rates in psychology are low by any standards do a bit of research instead of constant trolling.
A pretty good science book for beginners is A short history of nearly everything by Bill Bryson , you really need to stop believing everything Deepak Chopra says it doesn't help.
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Wow! I'm getting advice from an uneducated bible thumping chicken plucker ....gee thanks
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Dear me you're now quoting the words of a former police man as evidence that profiling is accurate despite me giving you testimonies from psychologists and scientists saying it's not , here's a quote from the unqualified nut you now pin your hopes on...... "My great aunt and uncle used to get together with close friends to talk about spirituality and dream analysis. I wish they were still here; this would have made great conversation with them. The benefit for them is that they already know what’s next."
So the words of a self proclaimed believer in dream analysis and spirituality is more reliable than 78 scientists, WOW!
Here is a list above of a small sample of the Google links I supplied that you and Barndoor deny exist ......every source quoted at you has you wailing " its not reliable, its biased, they were paid to say that" etc,etc.
I also never said criminal psychology was not a science
You did you filthy l-ar.....
. Its not psychology it is detective work.
You keep going on about replication for some reason known to yourself maybe because despite asking you one simple question in my very first statement you're still running , dodging , swerving , psychology is mostly pseudoscience, that's a fact get over it.
At this stage you're behaving like a bible thumper by consistently screeching " you're wrong" so why are you trying to persuade me in believing your nonsense?
I don't care you don't accept what I say so why do you and Barndoor keep chasing me around trying to persuade me otherwise do you actually think I'm suddenly going to change all because a low life thug and new age disciple like you or a bible thumping chicken plucker like Barndoor say so?
The reason im top of the leader board here is obviously because i'm top dog Barndoor and you are way down the table because of your dreadful debating skills and typically American inbred genetic st-pidity.
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What are you on about you loon? The 78 psychologists and scientists I supplied have all written about profiling, you cannot even keep up with you're that insane.
What the f-ck are you on about?
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Watch this now I just bet Mas Maxx says this source is also " not reliable". Here is yet another pscholgist who equates criminal profiling as akin to being on a par with fortune telling which again proves that any type of pseudoscience out there Mad Maxx and Barndoor believes it hook, line and sinker
Times
Real life “crackers” who attempt to penetrate the minds of serial killers were yesterday accused of being “worthless” purveyors of bad science.
Criminal profilers, such as the Fitz character portrayed by Robbie Coltrane in the Cracker TV series, were said to be “dragging down” psychology and almost on a par with fortune tellers.
The assault came from consultant psychologist Craig Jackson, co-author of a damning critique of the profession soon to be published in a legal journal.
He argues that criminal profiling may be surrounded by a media-driven mystique but is unscientific and potentially harmful.
“Behavioural profiling has never led to the direct apprehension of a serial killer or murderer, so it seems to have no real-world value,” said Dr Jackson.
“There have been no clinical trials to show that behavioural profiling works and there have been major miscarriages of justice.
“It’s given too much credibility as a scientific discipline and I think this is a serious issue.”
Profiling involves building up a picture of an as-yet unidentified suspect from the offender’s methods, choice of victim, and clues left at the crime scene.
Britain’s best known criminal profiler is Paul Britton, who has been involved in high profile cases such as the Fred and Rose West killings, and the murders of James Bulger, schoolgirl Naomi Smith and Rachel Nickell.
In 2002 Mr Britton was cleared of professional misconduct by the British Psychological Society after the collapse of the case against Nickell suspect Colin Stagg.
Serial rapist Robert Napper eventually admitted murdering Ms Nickell on Wimbledon Common, south-west London, in 1992.
Dr Jackson will voice his criticisms this week at the British Festival of Science, which opened today at Aston University in Birmingham.
The technique of behavioural profiling was first adopted by the FBI in 1972 and had been “going non-stop ever since”, he said.
But although it had provided colourful material for newspapers, movies and TV programmes, there was no evidence that profiling did any good, he said.
“As psychologists we have concerns that the ‘science’ of behavioural science is dragging us down,” said Dr Jackson.
He said that typically criminal profilers portrayed themselves more as witch doctors than scientists; people with unusual special gifts that were both a blessing and a burden.
“They bring themselves forward as if they are shamans cursed with the nightmares of dead people,” said Dr Jackson. “It almost takes us back to primitivism. It isn’t a good advert for science.”
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Hilarious, Mad Maxx asks for links gets them spoon fed to him and then does his usual by flying into a tantrum claiming he is a fabulous debater yet is rated bottom of the Competition table with Mickey G, christ warrior , Barndoor etc, etc, while I'm still top its gotta hurt going on Mad Maxxs hissy fits.
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Stop lying you never even read one of them you l-ar.
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Nonsense. My very first statement on this debate proved why it's not science, you keep pretending it doesn't exist.
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Listen up you clown you just said criminal profiling was " guesswork" and wasn't psychology then you said it was pschology even when I gave you the words of a pscychologist saying its akin to fortune telling.
Now you're stating that predictability in psychology is on a par with predictability in Quantum Mechanics ......seriously you're an ID-IOT
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" Our reply" Z said he wanted nothing to do with you and your id-iotic comments.
Listen up you clown you just said criminal profiling was " guesswork" and wasn't psychology then you said it was pschology even when I gave you the words of a pscychologist saying its akin to fortune telling.
Now you're stating that predictability in psychology is on a par with predictability in Quantum Mechanics ......seriously you're an ID-IOT
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Poor Maxx flings the toys out his pram in a fit, let's re-cap......
Now Maxx is stating that predictability in psychology is on a par with predictability in Quantum Mechanics ......seriously Maxx is an ID-IOT
Maxx actually thinks criminal profiling is just as predictable as Quantum Mechanics , you gotta wonder how parents raised such a spectacularly st-pid slob.
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Mad Maxx still trying to deflect , dodge and swerve here is what the clown is avoiding addressing .....
Poor Maxx flings the toys out his pram in a fit, let's re-cap......
Now Maxx is stating that predictability in psychology is on a par with predictability in Quantum Mechanics ......seriously Maxx is an ID-IOT
Maxx actually thinks criminal profiling is just as predictable as Quantum Mechanics , you gotta wonder how parents raised such a spectacularly st-pid slob.
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And that recognized psychologist did not say any such thing and you know it so your still lying out of despiration as well as talking in the wrong person which is a sign that some things not quiet right on the top floor..
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**And that recognised psychologist did not say any such thing.....**
Real life “crackers” who attempt to penetrate the minds of serial killers were yesterday accused of being “worthless” purveyors of bad science.
Criminal profilers, such as the Fitz character portrayed by Robbie Coltrane in the Cracker TV series, were said to be “dragging down” psychology and almost on a par with fortune tellers.......
Read that last sentence again ( you're that dumb I've highlighted it for you) you loon you're that dense you actually deny what people say even when it's posted to you in their own words.
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one thing dee does not understand is what a pseudo science is and they do not teach them in schools
Well actually I'm well aware of what pseudoscience is and you can get a degree in such in the US.
. Thye do not teach palmistry, or phrenology, or astrology in school
They actually have colleges for it in the US for each subject as Americans worship pseudoscience and see it as an academic discipline ( read the link below)
Come on you guys have a college just to learn how to make a hamburger , a nation of retarded dummies .
s, yet psychology is taught in schools, colleges, and universities all over the world, and one has to go through years of schooling to earn a degree. @Barnardot
Yes just like it takes years to get an Astrology degree in the US , your point being?
https://www.keplercollege.org/#:~:text=Kepler College is one of,best in quality Astrological education.
https://www.collegeofpsychicstudies.co.uk/on-demand/palmistry-palm-reading/what-will-i-learn-on-a-palmistry-course/
https://collections.nlm.nih.gov/pdf/nlm:nlmuid-101602234-bk
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