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Atheism does not exist in reality; why is the deception promulgated among the aberrant?

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  • @Factfinder

    GUESS WHAT TIME IT IS?!!!

    FACTFINDERS QUOTE TO REFUTE MY BIBLE PASSAGES THAT EXPLICITLY SHOW THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A JEW TO BE A CHRISTIAN:  "As I said before I will happily and easily destroy you line by line:" "https://www.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/174067/#Comment_174067

    Now, simply put for your grade-school intellect, therefore to follow through with your statement in your quote above, and without any little boy excuses or copy and pasting your previous ever wanting posts where I have already EASILY addressed those notions,  begin in destroying these passages forthwith LINE BY LINE that show you have to be a JEW to be a Christian where you laughably say otherwise:

    THE MEMBERSHIP IS WATCHING!!!

    BEGIN:

    1. He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matthew 15:24). 

    Jesus ONLY came for the lost sheep if Israel, WHICH ARE JEWS ONLY! 


    2. Saying, “Where is he who has been born king of the Jews? For we saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.” (Matthew 2:2). 

    Therefore, when Jesus is the KING OF THE JEWS, you have to be a JEW to be a Christian to follow Jesus! Case in point, can a hell-bound Muslim be a Christian as the King of the Jews, NO!!!


    3. For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you (Hebrews) out of all the peoples on the face of the earth TO BE HIS PEOPLE, his treasured possession." (Deuteronomy 7:6)

    Jesus as God, chose ONLY the JEWS to be His people, and not disbelieving Gentiles per their definition!


    4. Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” (Matthew 19:28)

    Who only can judge the 12 tribes of Israel, WHICH ARE ALL JEWS?  Yes again, a JEW,  get it Atheist Bible FOOL?!


    5. "Now therefore, if you will indeed obey my voice and keep my covenant, you shall be my treasured possession among all peoples, for all the earth is mine; and you shall be to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words that you shall speak to the people of Israel.” (Exodus 19:5-6).   

    FACTFINDER, what people are the "treasured possession" of God, yes, THE JEWS ONLY! What people are the words spoken to of Israel, yes, THE JEWS ONLY! 


    6. “Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritan’s, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matthew 10:5,6)

    What did Jesus say to his disciples? go nowhere among the Gentiles because they are NOT JEWS!  Rather, the disciples are to go ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel, WHICH ARE JEWS ONLY! 


    7. "Because on account of him many of the Jews were going away and believing in Jesus." (John 2:11) 

    Who were believing in Jesus, THE JEWS ONLY, especially since Jesus is THE KING OF THE JEWS to begin with!


    8.  “Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.”  (Matthew 16:24 NIV)

    To be a disciple of Jesus, like his 12 JEWISH DISCIPLES to begin with, YOU HAVE TO BE A JEW where there is absolutely no wiggle room to this BIBLE AXIOM!


    9. Jesus, who is called Justus, also sends greetings. These are the only Jews among my co-workers for the kingdom of God, and they have proved a comfort to me.” (Colossians 4:11)

    Who are the ONLY people mentioned for the kingdom of God? YES, THE JEWS!!!  Will unbelieving Gentiles or any other sect that is not a JEW by definition be able to enter heaven, NO!


    10. Therefore many of the Jews who had come to Mary, and had seen what Jesus did, believed in Him.” (John 11:45)

    Did the Gentiles come to see Mary to see what he did and to believe in him? NO, ONLY THE JEWS! 


    11. "The brothers immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea, and when they arrived they went into the Jewish synagogueNow these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so." (Acts 17:10-11)

    Can you be in a JEWISH SYNAGOGUE and receiving the word of Jesus as God as being the KING OF THE JEWS and not be a JEW? NO, you can not BIBLE FOOL FACTFINDER!


    12. "Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the value of circumcision? Much in every way. To begin with, the Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God."(Romans 3:1-2) 

    ONLY THE JEWS were entrusted with the oracles of God!  Therefore one has to be a JEW to be a Christian follower of Jesus!  DUH!


    13. "So they took the money and did as they were directed. And this story has been spread among the Jews to this day." (Matthew 29:15) 

    Only spread to who, even to this day in 2024, WAS THE JEWS ONLY! Then you have to be a JEW to accept the story AND TO BE A CHRISTIAN!


    14. "Now therefore, if you will indeed obey my voice and keep my covenant, you shall be my treasured possession among all peoples, for all the earth is mine; and you shall be to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words that you shall speak to the people of Israel.” (Exodus 19:5-6)

    What people are the "treasured possession" of God, THE JEWS! What people are the words spoken to of Israel, THE JEWS ONLY!  


    15. Jesus’ inspired words state: “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.” (Matthew 6:5)

    Who meets in a SYNAGOGUE ONLY?  YES, the JEWS! Who is the KING OF THE JEWS? Yes, Jesus!  Who ONLY can be a Christian, YES AGAIN, A JEW!!! 


    FACTFINDER, YOUR "BIBLE BUFFOONERY" IS ON THE LINE, THE CLOCK IS TICKING: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsq0FiXjGHg

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    Factfinder
  • FactfinderFactfinder 945 Pts   -  
    @21CenturyIconoclast

    Until you grow up we can't move on. What are 'text', 'subtext', and 'context' and how are they used in literature? 

    Who was the apostle to the gentiles? What does 'anyone' mean? Who was the gentile author of the gospel of luke in the christian bible?

    Explain your debunked bone headed statement : "Biblically, the ONLY people that can be Christians are HEBREWS, period! To all the non jew gentile christians today? Before all membership explain the idiocy behind your remark. They've seen it debunked. Admit defeat and then I'll school you some more if you truly want me to.
  • 21CenturyIconoclast21CenturyIconoclast 206 Pts   -   edited February 18
    @RickeyHoltsclaw


    RICKEYHOLTSCLAW, WITHOUT A DOUBT, THE NUMBER 1 BIBLE FOOL OF THIS RELIGION FORUM, BAR NONE!


    YOUR FEEBLE POST HEREWITH WHERE YOU PROFFERED 1 JOHN 1:9:  
    "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."

    This passage that you had the audacity to promote is insidious on the grounds that a BIBLE pseudo-christian like YOU, therefore has no incentive NOT TO SIN because you will always be forgiven by your BLOODY BRUTAL SERIAL KILLER JESUS!  In essence, you could murder many of Jesus' JEWISH Creation, and will always be forgiven by Jesus in your thinking, NOT!  No wonder the inept in IQ levels like YOU become pseudo-christians with a ruse like the forgiveness of sins doctrine!  LOL!!!


    Bible Rickey, you forgot to include OTHER biblical passages inspired by Jesus relative to the Forgiveness Doctrine, WHY? Are you just to BIBLE DUMB AGAIN to realize they exist, or are you just to SCARED to post them in contradiction to your 1 John 1:9 post above? Huh?


    YOUR PATHETIC BRONZE AND IRON AGE PRIMITIVE BIBLE ALSO STATES THESE PASSAGES RELATIVE TO SIN THAT CONTRADICT YOUR 1 JOHN 1:9 PASSAGE SHOWN ABOVE:

    1. “If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,” (Hebrews 10:26)

    2. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be! (Romans 6:15)

    3.  "Then Peter came up and said to him, “Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you seven times, but seventy-seven times." (Matthew 18:21-22)  Therefore, after 77 times, sins will NOT be forgiven by Jesus as god!!!

    4. "Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." (Matthew 12:31-32)


    NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN AS BIBLE DUMBFOUNDED AS "RICKEYHOLTSCLAW" WILL BE ....?

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  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  

    Everyone born of Adam's seed sins (Romans 3:23)...it's in our genome...it's what we do by nature...this is applicable to the atheist and the Christian...we are all encumbered by an Adamic sin-nature and even though the Christian is born again by faith in Jesus as Messiah (John 3) and the Holy Spirit indwells them by covenant promise (Ephesians 1:13-14), even though they have received a "new nature" by faith in Jesus as Messiah (2 Corinthians 5:17), the Christian still struggles with the sin-nature that wars against the new-nature and this truism remains valid until the Christian rids them self of this body of sinful, decaying, flesh; therefore, the Holy Spirit provided the Christian with 1 John 1:9; this, NOT to renew or establish or keep one's salvation...Christian salvation is secure through New Covenant promise (Hebrews 8:12) but the Christian is provided 1 John 1:9 for the sake of intimacy with our Heavenly Father.

    It is sin that creates a chasm in relationships, both Earthy and Heavenly; therefore, when a Christian fails to honor the Father's will their conscience is beleaguered, there is a feeling of loss...there is an absence of joy and peace and communion with our Creator; therefore, 1 John 1:9 is not for salvation or for our Creator but for the individual Christian in order to restore intimacy and joy and daily communion with our Creator...where there is peace and joy in Jesus Christ (Romans 5:1). 

     
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6143 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    You are right, Rickey: you are a wretched man and a slave. But I am not sure why you are telling this to me. First, I already know that; and second, and I do not care.
    ZeusAres42
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    You are right, Rickey: you are a wretched man and a slave. But I am not sure why you are telling this to me. First, I already know that; and second, and I do not care.

    @MayCaesar ; @ZeusAres42 ;  During my years of policing, it has been my experience that homosexuality and atheism are like birds of feather....curious....are you and Zeus homosexuals?
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6143 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    I am not. Your policing experience must have been... interesting. Did it involve leather uniforms? Whips? A lot of moaning?
    ZeusAres42GiantMan
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    I am not. Your policing experience must have been... interesting. Did it involve leather uniforms? Whips? A lot of moaning?

    @MayCaesar ;  Yes, homo's and lesbo's and trans were especially fond of revealing leather....policed the queer community of "The Montrose" in Houston, TX on four-different shifts...atheist inundated - demonically oriented - Hell in Time.  So you're NOT LGBTQIA++?
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6143 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    As much as it might shock you, I am perfectly straight. More than straight: I only am interested in Asian women!

    I am genuinely interested in the kind of policing you have to do to routinely find out people's sexuality. Do you ask them for naughty videos?
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6143 Pts   -  
    I also find it curious that the only people ever asking me about my sexuality are Christian fundamentalists. Are you guys that repressed? It is a weird thing to ask of a stranger.
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    As much as it might shock you, I am perfectly straight. More than straight: I only am interested in Asian women!

    I am genuinely interested in the kind of policing you have to do to routinely find out people's sexuality. Do you ask them for naughty videos?

    @MayCaesar ;  When policing a homosexual community, you're not required to "routinely find out people's sexuality"....they wear it proudly though I was required, at times, to ask if the trans suspect was fully castrated so that I knew what holding-cell to place them into subsequent arrival at the jail. Some had breast augmentation - implants but maintained a penis...at that time we had not accommodations for that perverse form mental, spiritual, illness.  
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    @MayCaesar ;  You come across as gay-queer...distraught...confused...angry...demonic...hopeless...therefore, atheists with those personality traits and attributes are most likely homosexual, lesbian, trans, some form of deviant...and that often explains their virulent, toxic, vitriol, towards Christianity which proclaims the truth about homosexuality, LGBTQIA++ and its demonic root. You are most offensive atheist...


  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6143 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    I see. So you went to one of the weirdest communities in the world and extrapolated its habits to billions of non-religious people around the world?


  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    I see. So you went to one of the weirdest communities in the world and extrapolated its habits to billions of non-religious people around the world?



    @MayCasear ;  Christians who honor our Creator tell you the truth...we ally with Jesus because we trust in Him and we love Him; conversely, you ally with Satan because you love your lust and your flesh and your pride more than Truth and your conscience is seared, your future is nihilistic...these are free will choices. We are at odds because I serve the Living God, Jesus Christ, and you serve the god of death and Hell, Satan...there is no reconciliation as our loyalties are irreconcilable.

     

     


  • just_sayinjust_sayin 1127 Pts   -  
    @just_sayin

    I never said 'my atheism is different'. I sad it's unbelief and makes no assertions. That's what theism does. I do not claim there is no god, no assertions, get it. I simply do not accept anything purposed as a god to date as real; due to lack of evidence. Pointing at a rock and saying 'god did' it isn't evidence of any god. 

    You can see evidence of atheism's morality every day on this site. We debate honestly and only return insults when provoked. You claim to know our belief systems just because we reject yours. You then say our 'god' is science, you claim were satanic because of your ignorance in how we arrived to where we're at in our world views. You get frustrated and lash out with silly videos when we simply don't share your faith. You make stupendous comparisons but you can only see the reactions to your nonsense and then once again project your presumptuous attitudes on anyone who disagrees with you. And you wonder why one or more of us would introduce the flying spaghetti monster as god to mock your self-righteous remarks? Your god must be so proud. 

    Don't even try to defend ricky. You even told him he was over the top in so many words.
    OMG!  I haven't seen so much crap since that episode of dirty jobs where Mrs Frasier's toilet exploded with the entire neigborhood's crap floating around her home.  See here:



    You have made lots of assertions - and called Rickey lots of names.  You have indeed claimed numerous times in multiple debate threads that there is no god.  As sure as @MayCasesar will make a science of the gaps appeal as soon as he is confronted with evidence of a miracle, you will claim that there is no God.  

    You haven't paid attention to my claims about your weak moral value system.  I have pointed out that as an atheist you have no objective moral source for values.  So everyone does what he wants and what he thinks best.  You worship 'scientism', but science stands against so many of your beliefs - such as the creation of the universe.  I can't begin to tell you how many atheists have said that the universe came from nothing.  That is logically impossible.  I've read at least 2 dozen different theories from scientists about how the universe was created - its not that there aren't theories - there just aren't any that are scientifically sound.  Go ahead mention a theory - and I will find you articles and post links from other atheist scientists who trash that theory into obliteration.  You mock people of faith when they appeal to an unseen God, but you appeal to what is essentially magic for the creation of the universe.  That's not science, that's make believe.
    GiantMan
  • MayCaesar said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    You are right, Rickey: you are a wretched man and a slave. But I am not sure why you are telling this to me. First, I already know that; and second, and I do not care.

    @MayCaesar ; @ZeusAres42 ;  During my years of policing, it has been my experience that homosexuality and atheism are like birds of feather....curious....are you and Zeus homosexuals?
    asked by the Pedo



  • ZeusAres42ZeusAres42 Emerald Premium Member 2773 Pts   -   edited February 18
    @just_sayin

    I never said 'my atheism is different'. I sad it's unbelief and makes no assertions. That's what theism does. I do not claim there is no god, no assertions, get it. I simply do not accept anything purposed as a god to date as real; due to lack of evidence. Pointing at a rock and saying 'god did' it isn't evidence of any god. 

    You can see evidence of atheism's morality every day on this site. We debate honestly and only return insults when provoked. You claim to know our belief systems just because we reject yours. You then say our 'god' is science, you claim were satanic because of your ignorance in how we arrived to where we're at in our world views. You get frustrated and lash out with silly videos when we simply don't share your faith. You make stupendous comparisons but you can only see the reactions to your nonsense and then once again project your presumptuous attitudes on anyone who disagrees with you. And you wonder why one or more of us would introduce the flying spaghetti monster as god to mock your self-righteous remarks? Your god must be so proud. 

    Don't even try to defend ricky. You even told him he was over the top in so many words.
    OMG!  I haven't seen so much crap since that episode of dirty jobs where Mrs Frasier's toilet exploded with the entire neigborhood's crap floating around her home.  See here:


    You have made lots of assertions - and called Rickey lots of names.  You have indeed claimed numerous times in multiple debate threads that there is no god.  As sure as @MayCasesar will make a science of the gaps appeal as soon as he is confronted with evidence of a miracle, you will claim that there is no God.  

    You haven't paid attention to my claims about your weak moral value system.  I have pointed out that as an atheist you have no objective moral source for values.  So everyone does what he wants and what he thinks best.  You worship 'scientism', but science stands against so many of your beliefs - such as the creation of the universe.  I can't begin to tell you how many atheists have said that the universe came from nothing.  That is logically impossible.  I've read at least 2 dozen different theories from scientists about how the universe was created - its not that there aren't theories - there just aren't any that are scientifically sound.  Go ahead mention a theory - and I will find you articles and post links from other atheist scientists who trash that theory into obliteration.  You mock people of faith when they appeal to an unseen God, but you appeal to what is essentially magic for the creation of the universe.  That's not science, that's make believe.



    MayCaesarFactfinderGiantMan



  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6143 Pts   -  
    RickeyHoltsclaw said:

    @MayCasear ;  Christians who honor our Creator tell you the truth...we ally with Jesus because we trust in Him and we love Him; conversely, you ally with Satan because you love your lust and your flesh and your pride more than Truth and your conscience is seared, your future is nihilistic...these are free will choices. We are at odds because I serve the Living God, Jesus Christ, and you serve the god of death and Hell, Satan...there is no reconciliation as our loyalties are irreconcilable.
    Your world salad is cute, but your argument is kind of guano...
    Factfinder
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    RickeyHoltsclaw said:

    @MayCasear ;  Christians who honor our Creator tell you the truth...we ally with Jesus because we trust in Him and we love Him; conversely, you ally with Satan because you love your lust and your flesh and your pride more than Truth and your conscience is seared, your future is nihilistic...these are free will choices. We are at odds because I serve the Living God, Jesus Christ, and you serve the god of death and Hell, Satan...there is no reconciliation as our loyalties are irreconcilable.
    Your world salad is cute, but your argument is kind of guano...

    @MayCaesar ;  My "arguments" don't resonate with you because you belong to Satan...you cannot understand the Truth...your conscience has been seared...your discernment controlled...your future nihilistic...your existence, wasteful.


  • @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Why was it you were kicked from the police again?
    Factfinder



  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -   edited February 18
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Why was it you were kicked from the police again?

    @ZeusAres42 ;  I was not "kicked from the police"...I retired honorably subsequent 31-years of service...try again? 
  • @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Why was it you were kicked from the police again?

    @ZeusAres42 ;  I was not "kicked from the police"...I retired honorably subsequent 31-years of service...try again? 
    Are you sure that is the case and/or you were well liked by your collegues? Sure none of them saw you as a somewhat wrongen? It won't take that much to find out bruh! ;)



  • FactfinderFactfinder 945 Pts   -  
    @just_sayin

    I never said 'my atheism is different'. I sad it's unbelief and makes no assertions. That's what theism does. I do not claim there is no god, no assertions, get it. I simply do not accept anything purposed as a god to date as real; due to lack of evidence. Pointing at a rock and saying 'god did' it isn't evidence of any god. 

    You can see evidence of atheism's morality every day on this site. We debate honestly and only return insults when provoked. You claim to know our belief systems just because we reject yours. You then say our 'god' is science, you claim were satanic because of your ignorance in how we arrived to where we're at in our world views. You get frustrated and lash out with silly videos when we simply don't share your faith. You make stupendous comparisons but you can only see the reactions to your nonsense and then once again project your presumptuous attitudes on anyone who disagrees with you. And you wonder why one or more of us would introduce the flying spaghetti monster as god to mock your self-righteous remarks? Your god must be so proud. 

    Don't even try to defend ricky. You even told him he was over the top in so many words.
    OMG!  I haven't seen so much crap since that episode of dirty jobs where Mrs Frasier's toilet exploded with the entire neigborhood's crap floating around her home.  See here:



    You have made lots of assertions - and called Rickey lots of names.  You have indeed claimed numerous times in multiple debate threads that there is no god.  As sure as @MayCasesar will make a science of the gaps appeal as soon as he is confronted with evidence of a miracle, you will claim that there is no God.  

    You haven't paid attention to my claims about your weak moral value system.  I have pointed out that as an atheist you have no objective moral source for values.  So everyone does what he wants and what he thinks best.  You worship 'scientism', but science stands against so many of your beliefs - such as the creation of the universe.  I can't begin to tell you how many atheists have said that the universe came from nothing.  That is logically impossible.  I've read at least 2 dozen different theories from scientists about how the universe was created - its not that there aren't theories - there just aren't any that are scientifically sound.  Go ahead mention a theory - and I will find you articles and post links from other atheist scientists who trash that theory into obliteration.  You mock people of faith when they appeal to an unseen God, but you appeal to what is essentially magic for the creation of the universe.  That's not science, that's make believe.
    NO GOD exists that's been claimed. That's not the same as saying no god exist period. IF I hadn't been clear maybe this will help you. You see, (?) my intelligent position needs needs no assertions, your ahem, position does. Until you get that, can't take you very serious and we'll just go in circles.
    ZeusAres42GiantMan
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Why was it you were kicked from the police again?

    @ZeusAres42 ;  I was not "kicked from the police"...I retired honorably subsequent 31-years of service...try again? 
    Are you sure that is the case and/or you were well liked by your collegues? Sure none of them saw you as a somewhat wrongen? It won't take that much to find out bruh! ;)

    @ZeusAres42 ; Don't know what you're alleging...or what is your motive...can you be specific?
  • ZeusAres42ZeusAres42 Emerald Premium Member 2773 Pts   -   edited February 18
    @Factfinder

    Would you say now that as apostate you are more of a Deist?



  • @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Why was it you were kicked from the police again?

    @ZeusAres42 ;  I was not "kicked from the police"...I retired honorably subsequent 31-years of service...try again? 
    Are you sure that is the case and/or you were well liked by your collegues? Sure none of them saw you as a somewhat wrongen? It won't take that much to find out bruh! ;)

    @ZeusAres42 ; Don't know what you're alleging...or what is your motive...can you be specific?
    Kind of foolish of you don't you think to assume that you're the only one around here from policing background. Pretty much like the assumption that you're the only real christian around here. Also kinda naive of you to not yet be quite up to date with how the Internet works. ;)



  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Why was it you were kicked from the police again?

    @ZeusAres42 ;  I was not "kicked from the police"...I retired honorably subsequent 31-years of service...try again? 
    Are you sure that is the case and/or you were well liked by your collegues? Sure none of them saw you as a somewhat wrongen? It won't take that much to find out bruh! ;)

    @ZeusAres42 ; Don't know what you're alleging...or what is your motive...can you be specific?
    Kind of foolish of you don't you think to assume that you're the only one around here from policing background. Pretty much like the assumption that you're the only real christian around here. Also kinda naive of you to not yet be quite up to date with how the Internet works. ;)

    ZeusAres42   

    1) I'm not concerned if anyone "around here" is from a "policing background." Never even entered my mind...I could care less.

    2) Is there another "Christian" in this debate forum; if so, who are they? Do you even know what defines Christianity?

    3) If I had anything to hide, would I have used my real name as my User Name among this hoard of demonic atheists and would I have shared with you my years of blog posts via rickeyholtsclaw.com? 

    Do you think before you type? 
  • @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Why was it you were kicked from the police again?

    @ZeusAres42 ;  I was not "kicked from the police"...I retired honorably subsequent 31-years of service...try again? 
    Are you sure that is the case and/or you were well liked by your collegues? Sure none of them saw you as a somewhat wrongen? It won't take that much to find out bruh! ;)

    @ZeusAres42 ; Don't know what you're alleging...or what is your motive...can you be specific?
    Kind of foolish of you don't you think to assume that you're the only one around here from policing background. Pretty much like the assumption that you're the only real christian around here. Also kinda naive of you to not yet be quite up to date with how the Internet works. ;)

    ZeusAres42   

    1) I'm not concerned if anyone "around here" is from a "policing background." Never even entered my mind...I could care less.

    2) Is there another "Christian" in this debate forum; if so, who are they? Do you even know what defines Christianity?

    3) If I had anything to hide, would I have used my real name as my User Name among this hoard of demonic atheists and would I have shared with you my years of blog posts via rickeyholtsclaw.com? 

    Do you think before you type? 


    Lol. Are you blind? There are several of people around here that are Christians. Many of which have posted in same debates as yours. just_sayin being one of them. Is he not a true Christian? 

    So, you don't have anything to hide you claim? That is interesting because almost everyone has something to hide from public. But you claim to have nothing to hide. hmmmm? Kinda reminds me of Jimmy Savile who was very public would claim he had nothing to hide as well. 
    Factfinder



  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6143 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    RickeyHoltsclaw said:

    @MayCasear ;  Christians who honor our Creator tell you the truth...we ally with Jesus because we trust in Him and we love Him; conversely, you ally with Satan because you love your lust and your flesh and your pride more than Truth and your conscience is seared, your future is nihilistic...these are free will choices. We are at odds because I serve the Living God, Jesus Christ, and you serve the god of death and Hell, Satan...there is no reconciliation as our loyalties are irreconcilable.
    Your world salad is cute, but your argument is kind of guano...

    @MayCaesar ;  My "arguments" don't resonate with you because you belong to Satan...you cannot understand the Truth...your conscience has been seared...your discernment controlled...your future nihilistic...your existence, wasteful.
    No, they are objectively garbage. Let us ask our best friend ChatGPT:




    The reply provided by your opponent does not directly address your question regarding the alleged correlation between atheism and homosexuality, nor does it engage with the concern over sweeping generalizations. Instead, it shifts the discussion toward the moral and spiritual dichotomies between believers and non-believers, framing the debate in terms of allegiance to divine or malevolent forces. Here are some critical aspects to consider when evaluating this response:

    1. Logical Fallacies

    • Ad Hominem: The response seems to attack the character or motives of the non-believer (you, in this case) rather than addressing the question or the argument. Suggesting that one's future is nihilistic or that they serve "the god of death and Hell" because of their beliefs (or lack thereof) does not contribute to a logical argument but rather diverts from the issue at hand.
    • False Dichotomy: The argument presents the issue as a binary choice between serving the Christian God and serving Satan, ignoring a wide spectrum of beliefs and moral frameworks that exist outside of these two extremes.

    2. Lack of Empirical Evidence

    The claim about the alignment of atheism with specific behaviors or identities lacks empirical evidence. Studies on religious belief, sexual orientation, and moral behavior show a complex interplay of factors, with no direct causal relationship between atheism and any particular sexual orientation.

    3. Moral and Ethical Assertions

    While the response is rich in moral and ethical assertions from a Christian perspective, these assertions do not constitute evidence in a logical argument. Moral and ethical beliefs are subjective and vary widely across different cultures and religious backgrounds.

    4. Sweeping Generalizations

    The original question about generalizing atheists as homosexuals (or implying a significant overlap without evidence) remains unaddressed. Making broad generalizations about any group without substantial, representative data is logically unsound and can contribute to stereotypes and misunderstandings.

    Conclusion

    As a logical argument, the response is problematic. It does not engage with the original question about generalizations but instead uses ad hominem attacks and presents a false dichotomy between good and evil as defined by one specific religious belief system. Such an approach does not foster constructive debate or understanding but rather deepens divides. In a rational debate, arguments should ideally focus on addressing the specific points raised, providing evidence where claims are made, and avoiding personal attacks or moral judgments that cannot be universally applied.

  • FactfinderFactfinder 945 Pts   -  
    @Factfinder

    Would you say now that as apostate you are more of a Deist?
    @ZeusAres42 

    At this point I'd say no. When I first 'fell' from grace I did entertain the thought for a brief time but then dismissed it. Though it's possible new discoveries can give rise to such thoughts. Right now there just doesn't appear to be anything evidential to believe something would intentionally create and watch it with total indifference anymore so then a creator who's active. The only thing I can conceive of is as astronomical as the odds were, and given the nature of things as we are able to understand to date, energy producing matter was just inedible to produce life eventually. I think the bare roots of the issue is there obviously is an energized force that eventually produced life as we know. The easy answer is 'god did it' but the hard answer in reality may never be known. 
    ZeusAres42
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  

    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    Why was it you were kicked from the police again?

    @ZeusAres42 ;  I was not "kicked from the police"...I retired honorably subsequent 31-years of service...try again? 
    Are you sure that is the case and/or you were well liked by your collegues? Sure none of them saw you as a somewhat wrongen? It won't take that much to find out bruh! ;)

    @ZeusAres42 ; Don't know what you're alleging...or what is your motive...can you be specific?
    Kind of foolish of you don't you think to assume that you're the only one around here from policing background. Pretty much like the assumption that you're the only real christian around here. Also kinda naive of you to not yet be quite up to date with how the Internet works. ;)

    ZeusAres42   

    1) I'm not concerned if anyone "around here" is from a "policing background." Never even entered my mind...I could care less.

    2) Is there another "Christian" in this debate forum; if so, who are they? Do you even know what defines Christianity?

    3) If I had anything to hide, would I have used my real name as my User Name among this hoard of demonic atheists and would I have shared with you my years of blog posts via rickeyholtsclaw.com? 

    Do you think before you type? 


    Lol. Are you blind? There are several of people around here that are Christians. Many of which have posted in same debates as yours. just_sayin being one of them. Is he not a true Christian? 

    So, you don't have anything to hide you claim? That is interesting because almost everyone has something to hide from public. But you claim to have nothing to hide. hmmmm? Kinda reminds me of Jimmy Savile who was very public would claim he had nothing to hide as well. 


    1) What evidence is there that @just_sayin is a Christian....how do you know and does "just" know what a Christian is?

    2) My life is an open book...my service in the Marine Corps and my service to the PD...are an open book...I'm have nothing to hide...as you say "almost everyone has something to hide from the public." If so, ask me, I'll answer you truthfully.

    3) Sounds as though you have something to "hide." What is it...I'll listen.



  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  


    Lol. Are you blind? There are several of people around here that are Christians. Many of which have posted in same debates as yours. just_sayin being one of them. Is he not a true Christian? 

    So, you don't have anything to hide you claim? That is interesting because almost everyone has something to hide from public. But you claim to have nothing to hide. hmmmm? Kinda reminds me of Jimmy Savile who was very public would claim he had nothing to hide as well. 


    1) What evidence is there that @just_sayin is a Christian....how do you know and does "just" know what a Christian is?

    2) My life is an open book...my service in the Marine Corps and my service to the PD...are an open book...I'm have nothing to hide...as you say "almost everyone has something to hide from the public." If so, ask me, I'll answer your truthfully.

    3) Sounds as though you have something to "hide." What is it...I'll listen.



  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    MayCaesar said:
    RickeyHoltsclaw said:

    @MayCasear ;  Christians who honor our Creator tell you the truth...we ally with Jesus because we trust in Him and we love Him; conversely, you ally with Satan because you love your lust and your flesh and your pride more than Truth and your conscience is seared, your future is nihilistic...these are free will choices. We are at odds because I serve the Living God, Jesus Christ, and you serve the god of death and Hell, Satan...there is no reconciliation as our loyalties are irreconcilable.
    Your world salad is cute, but your argument is kind of guano...

    @MayCaesar ;  My "arguments" don't resonate with you because you belong to Satan...you cannot understand the Truth...your conscience has been seared...your discernment controlled...your future nihilistic...your existence, wasteful.
    No, they are objectively garbage. Let us ask our best friend ChatGPT:




    The reply provided by your opponent does not directly address your question regarding the alleged correlation between atheism and homosexuality, nor does it engage with the concern over sweeping generalizations. Instead, it shifts the discussion toward the moral and spiritual dichotomies between believers and non-believers, framing the debate in terms of allegiance to divine or malevolent forces. Here are some critical aspects to consider when evaluating this response:

    1. Logical Fallacies

    • Ad Hominem: The response seems to attack the character or motives of the non-believer (you, in this case) rather than addressing the question or the argument. Suggesting that one's future is nihilistic or that they serve "the god of death and Hell" because of their beliefs (or lack thereof) does not contribute to a logical argument but rather diverts from the issue at hand.
    • False Dichotomy: The argument presents the issue as a binary choice between serving the Christian God and serving Satan, ignoring a wide spectrum of beliefs and moral frameworks that exist outside of these two extremes.

    2. Lack of Empirical Evidence

    The claim about the alignment of atheism with specific behaviors or identities lacks empirical evidence. Studies on religious belief, sexual orientation, and moral behavior show a complex interplay of factors, with no direct causal relationship between atheism and any particular sexual orientation.

    3. Moral and Ethical Assertions

    While the response is rich in moral and ethical assertions from a Christian perspective, these assertions do not constitute evidence in a logical argument. Moral and ethical beliefs are subjective and vary widely across different cultures and religious backgrounds.

    4. Sweeping Generalizations

    The original question about generalizing atheists as homosexuals (or implying a significant overlap without evidence) remains unaddressed. Making broad generalizations about any group without substantial, representative data is logically unsound and can contribute to stereotypes and misunderstandings.

    Conclusion

    As a logical argument, the response is problematic. It does not engage with the original question about generalizations but instead uses ad hominem attacks and presents a false dichotomy between good and evil as defined by one specific religious belief system. Such an approach does not foster constructive debate or understanding but rather deepens divides. In a rational debate, arguments should ideally focus on addressing the specific points raised, providing evidence where claims are made, and avoiding personal attacks or moral judgments that cannot be universally applied.


    @MayCaesar ;  Why do you need a computer to answer for you? Are you that shallow?
  • John_C_87John_C_87 Emerald Premium Member 867 Pts   -   edited February 18
    @just_sayin

    "That was crazy even for you John.  Christ did not make anyone ungodly.  For we are each responsible for our own conduct.  Maybe you took a little to much medicine there.  Get well my friend."
    I understand it to be maybe foolish not crazy.  

    JohnXIV: VI

    Jesus said to him, “I am the [only] Way [to God] and the [real] Truth and the [real] Life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6143 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    No, I brought the AI (not "computer") in for impartiality. Besides, let us not be hypocritical, shall we? You rely on the Ghouly Libel to think for you, no? ;)
  • FactfinderFactfinder 945 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    MayCaesar said:
    RickeyHoltsclaw said:

    @MayCasear ;  Christians who honor our Creator tell you the truth...we ally with Jesus because we trust in Him and we love Him; conversely, you ally with Satan because you love your lust and your flesh and your pride more than Truth and your conscience is seared, your future is nihilistic...these are free will choices. We are at odds because I serve the Living God, Jesus Christ, and you serve the god of death and Hell, Satan...there is no reconciliation as our loyalties are irreconcilable.
    Your world salad is cute, but your argument is kind of guano...

    @MayCaesar ;  My "arguments" don't resonate with you because you belong to Satan...you cannot understand the Truth...your conscience has been seared...your discernment controlled...your future nihilistic...your existence, wasteful.
    No, they are objectively garbage. Let us ask our best friend ChatGPT:




    The reply provided by your opponent does not directly address your question regarding the alleged correlation between atheism and homosexuality, nor does it engage with the concern over sweeping generalizations. Instead, it shifts the discussion toward the moral and spiritual dichotomies between believers and non-believers, framing the debate in terms of allegiance to divine or malevolent forces. Here are some critical aspects to consider when evaluating this response:

    1. Logical Fallacies

    • Ad Hominem: The response seems to attack the character or motives of the non-believer (you, in this case) rather than addressing the question or the argument. Suggesting that one's future is nihilistic or that they serve "the god of death and Hell" because of their beliefs (or lack thereof) does not contribute to a logical argument but rather diverts from the issue at hand.
    • False Dichotomy: The argument presents the issue as a binary choice between serving the Christian God and serving Satan, ignoring a wide spectrum of beliefs and moral frameworks that exist outside of these two extremes.

    2. Lack of Empirical Evidence

    The claim about the alignment of atheism with specific behaviors or identities lacks empirical evidence. Studies on religious belief, sexual orientation, and moral behavior show a complex interplay of factors, with no direct causal relationship between atheism and any particular sexual orientation.

    3. Moral and Ethical Assertions

    While the response is rich in moral and ethical assertions from a Christian perspective, these assertions do not constitute evidence in a logical argument. Moral and ethical beliefs are subjective and vary widely across different cultures and religious backgrounds.

    4. Sweeping Generalizations

    The original question about generalizing atheists as homosexuals (or implying a significant overlap without evidence) remains unaddressed. Making broad generalizations about any group without substantial, representative data is logically unsound and can contribute to stereotypes and misunderstandings.

    Conclusion

    As a logical argument, the response is problematic. It does not engage with the original question about generalizations but instead uses ad hominem attacks and presents a false dichotomy between good and evil as defined by one specific religious belief system. Such an approach does not foster constructive debate or understanding but rather deepens divides. In a rational debate, arguments should ideally focus on addressing the specific points raised, providing evidence where claims are made, and avoiding personal attacks or moral judgments that cannot be universally applied.


    @MayCaesar ;  Why do you need a computer to answer for you? Are you that shallow?
    Why do you need a fairy god elf book to answer for you? Are you that shallow?
    MayCaesar
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    @Factfinder ; @MayCaesar ; The Bible is Truth...it is Life...it has birthed Nations and people who love, honor, cherish, dedicate themselves to sustainable mores, norms, and values that bring life and peace and charity and good to their community and their Nation. I love my Lord's words...they are life. Jesus died for my that I could live with Him, forever...I don't see Jesus as a "fairy god elf" but as my Creator, Warrior, Messiah, Judge.


  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    No, I brought the AI (not "computer") in for impartiality. Besides, let us not be hypocritical, shall we? You rely on the Ghouly Libel to think for you, no? ;)

    @MayCaesar ; @Factfinder ... only the weak and ignorant need a computer to write and think for them... It is not hypocrisy to love our Creator, to adore Jesus who died for me that I could live with Him forever...this is wisdom...you're dying in sin and dying in Hell...that is your choice...if you require the use a computer to speak for you, to form your thoughts and rebuttal, you are weak and impotent and spiritually ignorant...that's on you.



  • FactfinderFactfinder 945 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    No, I brought the AI (not "computer") in for impartiality. Besides, let us not be hypocritical, shall we? You rely on the Ghouly Libel to think for you, no? ;)

    @MayCaesar ; @Factfinder ... only the weak and ignorant need a computer to write and think for them... It is not hypocrisy to love our Creator, to adore Jesus who died for me that I could live with Him forever...this is wisdom...you're dying in sin and dying in Hell...that is your choice...if you require the use a computer to speak for you, to form your thoughts and rebuttal, you are weak and impotent and spiritually ignorant...that's on you.




    Yet here you are spewing your own brand of ignorance on non other then a computer. The source of your ignorance and that what does your talking? The unholy babble fairy elf god book. Leaves you here babbling over your own drool as @ZeusAres42 ;exposes your imposter cop days. 
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    No, I brought the AI (not "computer") in for impartiality. Besides, let us not be hypocritical, shall we? You rely on the Ghouly Libel to think for you, no? ;)

    @MayCaesar ; @Factfinder ... only the weak and ignorant need a computer to write and think for them... It is not hypocrisy to love our Creator, to adore Jesus who died for me that I could live with Him forever...this is wisdom...you're dying in sin and dying in Hell...that is your choice...if you require the use a computer to speak for you, to form your thoughts and rebuttal, you are weak and impotent and spiritually ignorant...that's on you.




    Yet here you are spewing your own brand of ignorance on non other then a computer. The source of your ignorance and that what does your talking? The unholy babble fairy elf god book. Leaves you here babbling over your own drool as @ZeusAres42 ;exposes your imposter cop days. 

    @Factfinder ;  I spew nothing but the Truth about the evil of atheism and those who espouse its unfathomable stupidity. There is nothing "ignorant" about the Holy Spirit who controls your next breath. The Scriptures offer you the words of life that you will find nowhere else on this Earth or in the Heavens. Join @ZeusAres42 as he endeavors to discover anything of use poring over my writings to find tidbits of juicy propaganda...the ways of the wicked atheist...who can know them?


  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6143 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    No, I brought the AI (not "computer") in for impartiality. Besides, let us not be hypocritical, shall we? You rely on the Ghouly Libel to think for you, no? ;)

    @MayCaesar ; @Factfinder ... only the weak and ignorant need a computer to write and think for them... It is not hypocrisy to love our Creator, to adore Jesus who died for me that I could live with Him forever...this is wisdom...you're dying in sin and dying in Hell...that is your choice...if you require the use a computer to speak for you, to form your thoughts and rebuttal, you are weak and impotent and spiritually ignorant...that's on you.
    I think that if Jesus had known who he was dying for, he would have been very-very sad...
    Factfinder
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    MayCaesar said:
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    No, I brought the AI (not "computer") in for impartiality. Besides, let us not be hypocritical, shall we? You rely on the Ghouly Libel to think for you, no? ;)

    @MayCaesar ; @Factfinder ... only the weak and ignorant need a computer to write and think for them... It is not hypocrisy to love our Creator, to adore Jesus who died for me that I could live with Him forever...this is wisdom...you're dying in sin and dying in Hell...that is your choice...if you require the use a computer to speak for you, to form your thoughts and rebuttal, you are weak and impotent and spiritually ignorant...that's on you.
    I think that if Jesus had known who he was dying for, he would have been very-very sad...

    @MayCaesar ;  Jesus is Elohim, He is omniscient...He knew He was dying for you to provide you blood atonement for your sin and offer you the New Covenant promise of forgiveness and eternal life actuated by faith in Him as your Messiah (John 3). 




  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6143 Pts   -  
    Are you a chatbot, or just a moron?
    Factfinder
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    Are you a chatbot, or just a moron?

    @MayCaesar ;  I will agree that it is questionable as to why I take the time to engage the spiritually dead and arrogant atheist...I understand...perhaps my efforts are contrary to my Lord's will?


  • FactfinderFactfinder 945 Pts   -  
    MayCaesar said:
    Are you a chatbot, or just a moron?

    @MayCaesar ;  I will agree that it is questionable as to why I take the time to engage the spiritually dead and arrogant atheist...I understand...perhaps my efforts are contrary to my Lord's will?


    Okay so, bye.
    GiantMan
  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 6143 Pts   -  
    RickeyHoltsclaw said:

    @MayCaesar ;  I will agree that it is questionable as to why I take the time to engage the spiritually dead and arrogant atheist...I understand...perhaps my efforts are contrary to my Lord's will?
    "Efforts"...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    @MayCaesar ; NO thanks...why not my video I published today instead...???
  • FactfinderFactfinder 945 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    You realize you're atheist, right? So all the atheist crap you heap, you heap it onto yourself. You don't believe in hindu gods or you would be a hypocrite, that makes you atheist to their gods. You see where your perversion of reality has misled you?
    GiantMan
  • RickeyHoltsclawRickeyHoltsclaw 187 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    You realize you're atheist, right? So all the atheist crap you heap, you heap it onto yourself. You don't believe in hindu gods or you would be a hypocrite, that makes you atheist to their gods. You see where your perversion of reality has misled you?

    @Factfinder ;  There are no other "God's" but Elohim. Only He gives life and gave Himself so that the life I live will glorify Him...I trust Him.




  • FactfinderFactfinder 945 Pts   -  
    @RickeyHoltsclaw

    You realize you're atheist, right? So all the atheist crap you heap, you heap it onto yourself. You don't believe in hindu gods or you would be a hypocrite, that makes you atheist to their gods. You see where your perversion of reality has misled you?

    @Factfinder ;  There are no other "God's" but Elohim. Only He gives life and gave Himself so that the life I live will glorify Him...I trust Him.




    I understand brother. As long as you've picked the correct myth... I'll be here when you land in reality.
    RickeyHoltsclaw
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