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TKDB
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  • Marijuana should be legal, change my mind.

    @piloteer

    @Plaffelvohfen

    @John_C_87

    Prove it?

    Reference material?

    Eye witness statements? 

    YouTube link?

    Not just your opinion, from your own mouth? 

    Back your words up?

    "To answer your question. Narcotics officers are waging a war against all those cultures."

    Prove it?

    "All except the Caucasian one!!!!!"

    So if a black police officer busted a black marijuana addict, is that black police officer, waging a war against his own culture? 

    Prove it?

    "And yes, you should reach out to 60 minutes. I dare you to."

    And who is this "We," that you're referring to?

    Maybe the African American culture?

    The Caucasian culture?

    The Caucasian culture, has had plenty of white marijuana addicts getting arrested, for their marijuana addiction, possession, and drug dealing, haven't they?

    Are you going to defend the Caucasian marijuana addict, with your weed is good, and society accepts it, pro marijuana industry talk?

    The Hispanic culture?

    Are you going to defend the Hispanic marijuana addict, with your weed is good, and society accepts it, pro marijuana industry talk?

    The illegal immigrant, or alien culture?

    Are you going to defend the illegal immigrant addict,  or alien addict culture, with your weed is good, and society accepts it, pro marijuana industry talk, as well? 

    "We all know you won't get them to do a story about this, because there is no story."

    Weed is good, and society accepts it? 

    Is that what the marijuana addicted, moms and dads, are telling themselves, while they get high in front of their kids?

    Lie to their kids, because through the fog of marijuana addict high, they're lying to their kids, telling them your pro marijuana excuse, weed is good, and society accepts it? 

    Is that what the marijuana addict mother, with the unborn baby, inside of her womb, tells their unborn child, while they're high, and pregnant at the same time? 

    Marijuana isnt good, being that teenagers have committed suicide, because marijuana messed with their lives.

    And their stories, are available on the "Parents Opposed to Pot" website.

    You use the word "society?"

    That's a small word, when it comes to the pro marijuana industry philosophy.

    The United States as a whole, is smarter than the marijuana industry is, and it's smarter, than the marijuana addicts are.

    Because the rest of the states, that haven't legalized marijuana, they know how to manage their taxation and revenue budgets, don't they? 

    "Weed is good, and society accepts it."

    "And you can't do anything about it."

    The country as a whole, doesn't have to do anything about the marijuana addicts, marijuana addiction problems.

    The marijuana addicts, get to live with their prideful addictions all by themselves.

    And messing up their kids, and family lives, at the same time. 

    piloteer
  • Marijuana should be legal, change my mind.

    @John_C_87

    Prove how it will benefit the rest of the United States, that hasn't yet legalized recreational marijuana, for the marijuana user's, and the marijuana addicts , who are illegally using weed as we speak?

    "This can’t be proven in a court of law it is a lie."

    "A person cannot prove establish beyond reasonable doubt that recreationally legalizing marijuana can do anything, it is already recreational legal in all states in the United States of America. Once in a Court all people are bound by truth and whole truth by affirmation."

    "You are asking a person to give testimony to the abuses of taxation and prove perjury which are outside the limited issue of establishing a united state in written legislation of law with marijuana. As it pertains to substance abuse and the details in basic principle that highlight the abuse as a criminal intent on a public. I feel as though you are asking me to participate in an obstruction of justice by doing so without a written declaration of common defense to the general welfare."

    "A benefit to moving the regulation of marijuana from narcotic to air pollution is the following, an alignment in united state constitutional legal precedent. In truth the idea is not stopping an independent substance abuse like THC. It is focusing on the danger to the general welfare by exposer to an abuse as the independent violation occurs. In all ways the danger exists as narcotic."

    "Using a legislation of law as alibi to let exposing people to danger knowing through chemical contamination is negligence. The narcotic in marijuana is placed there outside the end users control and often without their knowledge."


    @John_C_87

    You're calling my argument a lie, because my point of view can't be disproven? 

    Who's lying then, to the public as a whole, when it comes to the United States then?

    Maybe those states, that have legalized recreational marijuana, to benefit off of the drug use of the marijuana users use, and the marijuana addicts drug abuse? 

    Did they maybe lie?

    Did some of the marijuana industry (IE, some of the pro marijuana activists, and advocates maybe lie to the citizens in those same states, to help get recreational marijuana legalized?

    Did they maybe lie? 

    The Polls that were created to help push the liberal toleration of the marijuana user's, and the marijuana addicts drug use, unto the rest of the public that doesn't use recreational weed, like the marijuana user's do, day in, and day out? 

    Did those polls lie to the public, via their carefully crafted, pro marijuana selling points?

    Did they maybe lie?

    Or maybe the rest of those states, who haven't legalized recreational marijuana to suit the needs of the marijuana user, and the marijuana addicts, are those respective representatives of those non legalization states, are they lying to the public, or the constituents, by not pandering to the marijuana user's, by not legalizing recreational weed? 

    Did they maybe lie?


    @John_C_87 ;

    You have a host of individuals to choose from above?

    So according to your individual pro marijuana ideological mindset, who's lying, in your estimation? 

    Plaffelvohfenpiloteer
  • Marijuana should be legal, change my mind.

    The legalization of marijuana benefits the marijuana user's, and the addicts?

    The legalization of marijuana benefits it's own taxation coffer?

    Because the other types of taxation and revenue coffers, that existed before the legalization of marijuana, I guess just weren't helping enough, to help a state fund, its own school, and education programs? 

    The legalization of marijuana benefits the marijuana industry, it benefits the previous criminals, and the offenders who were once incarcerated in jail, because of their previous marijuana use charges, and their possession of marijuana charges?

    And along with the above benefactors, maybe or apparently, it benefits those individual citizens, who go about campaigning for a public office, by making marijuana legalization as a probable part of their campaign speeches?

    Maybe to encourage those marijuana user's, in some of those places where marijuana isn't legal, to vote for that citizen, who's running for a public office?

    The 2020 Election cycle is coming up, and watch who says what about marijuana legalization, by campaigning on that specific talking point?

    I wonder what individual Republicans, Socialist Democrats, and Democrats will use it as a part of their campaign speeches? 

    Other than the above, I don't get how the kids, children, and the families, who live with, put up with, and are growing up with a marijuana user's drug use, how those same kids, children, and families, benefit specifically from their parent, or parents marijuana use, around their own families?
    piloteerPlaffelvohfen
  • Marijuana should be legal, change my mind.

    @John_C_87

    Your argument fails, your own arguments.
    piloteer
  • Marijuana should be legal, change my mind.

    @piloteer

    All I see, is a marijuana user, who's state, is pandering to you, because of your marijuana habit, and are pandering to the habits of the marijuana addicts, in your state, by making money off of your habits, and your brethrens addiction problems, because your state, maybe has a money management issue, or problem? 

    And some of the pregnant mothers, who are using marijuana while pregnant, are  apparently causing harmful issues to their unborn babies as well? 

    So your, and your drug addict marijuana using brethren, can hide behind your very own words, and treat the internet like a defensive shelter, and hunker down in it, because neither you, or your drug addict brethren, have one valid argument to make, to justify your marijuana use?

    Other than pushing your own pro marijuana users rhetoric?

    "States With Legal Recreational & Medical Cannabis

    • Alaska
    • California
    • Colorado
    • Maine
    • Massachusetts
    • Michigan*
    • Nevada
    • Oregon
    • Vermont
    • Washington
    • Washington D.C."

    "States With Medical Cannabis Only

    • Alabama* (CBD only)
    • Arizona
    • Arkansas**
    • Connecticut
    • Delaware
    • Florida
    • Georgia* (CBD only)
    • Hawaii
    • Illinois
    • Indiana* (CBD only)
    • Iowa (CBD only)
    • Kentucky* (CBD only)
    • Louisiana
    • Maryland
    • Minnesota
    • Mississippi* (CBD only)
    • Missouri
    • Montana
    • New Hampshire
    • New Jersey
    • New Mexico
    • New York
    • North Carolina* (CBD only)
    • North Dakota**
    • Ohio**
    • Oklahoma
    • Pennsylvania
    • Rhode Island
    • South Carolina* (CBD only)
    • Tennessee* (CBD only)
    • Texas (CBD only)
    • Utah
    • Virginia* (CBD only)
    • West Virginia**
    • Wisconsin* (CBD only)
    • Wyoming* (CBD only) "

    Just because your state is pandering to your marijuana use, it fails to make you, or your state, any more right unto itself, in the light of the rest of the country that hasn't broken itself down to pander to the rest, or the other marijuana drug addicts across, the rest of the country? 

    So continue to educate the public, with your below pro marijuana rhetoric?

    "" *You were unable to show us that legalization of marijuana causes parents to use marijuana in front of their children."

    "" *You were unable to show us that if a child were to witness a parent using marijuana, it would in turn cause the child to use it to."

    "" *You were unable to prove that there's scientific evidence of mental health issues from marijuana use."

    "" * You haven't even tried to prove that your argument that's based solely on emotions is more accurate than solid scientific proof."

    "" *You can't prove that you're a trustworthy moral guide for parents or children."

    "" *You haven't even tried to show how marijuana adversely affects society. This is a major one, because it's actually the main point of your argument."

    "" *You can't prove that marijuana causes permanent damage to adult users."

    You're preaching to yourself, and to the rest, of your pro marijuana supportive choir, with your own, above pro marijuana rhetoric?

    You're not preaching anything new, are you?

    If medical marijuana, is being used by some of the marijuana addicts, as a talking point, to help push the legalization of recreational marijuana unto the rest of the public, via the legalization of medical marijuana language, the rest of the country should take note, of how the "marijuana using street politicians" are trying to con, the rest of the public, with their pro medical marijuana con artist street talk?
    piloteerPlaffelvohfen

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