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The Christian god is not real.
Any lady, man, or child, can believe in the Christian god if they choose to.
And man, since the day man discovered, that once man picked up a club, and assaulted another human being with it, and hurt, maimed, or killed another human being with whatever objects, that man, and not religion in general, has killed more human beings, than any religion has.
Humanity has been on this planet for how long, roughly 200,000 years?
And religion in general has existed on this same planet, for how long now, 5,200 years?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_religion
Some excerpts from the webpage:"The concept of "religion" was formed in the 16th and 17th centuries,[3][4] despite the fact that ancient sacred texts like the Bible, the Quran, and others did not have a word or even a concept of religion in the original languages and neither did the people or the cultures in which these sacred texts were written.[5][6]
The word "religion" as used in the 21st century does not have an obvious pre-colonial translation into non-European languages. The anthropologist Daniel Dubuisson writes that "what the West and the history of religions in its wake have objectified under the name 'religion' is ... something quite unique, which could be appropriate only to itself and its own history".[7] The history of other cultures' interaction with the "religious" category is therefore their interaction with an idea that first developed in Europeunder the influence of Christianity. "
So it would appear that humanity in general has been on this planet, for a whole lot longer, than Religion has?
So wouldn't it suggest that man, and not religion, is more responsible, for causing more deaths to humanity in general, and not religion in general?
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Should America have gun control?
@CYDdharta"Yes, yes; you've already made it clear you're anti-gun,"
Wrong, I'm pro second amendment. And I've stated that before.
"And only listen to one side of the debate,"
Wrong, I've listened to both sides of the debate.
But, I have come to believe, that there are "gun owners," along with gun owner extremists, along with individuals who are tired of living with the aftermaths of the previous mass shootings that have occurred in the past.
"you don't need to reiterate it. But what do kids blubbering on about evil gun have to do with the theme of the forum?"
"Should America Have Gun Control"
Is it any of your business, if some kids, that have nothing to do with you to begin with, who are crying over the other kids, who were killed by an offenders gun violence crimes?
Look at the points of view, in how you expressed yourself in regards to (Kids?)
"But what do (kids blubbering) on about evil gun have to do with the theme of the forum?"
(How should people view the above?)"What specific steps do you believe should be taken to ensure that the horrendous events that those (children were discussing) never happen again?
(And then the above?)
My response to your question:
The offenders, criminals, and first time gun violence offenders, should value their individual values more, instead of maybe placing so much value on a gun?
And then you come full circle, by making sure to express the below?
"Keep in mind, the right to bear arms is an actual right enshrined in the Constitution. There is no right to ban arms or limit that right to make one feel better in the Constitution."
And keep in mind, that no individual, criminal, offender, or a lawfully purchased gun owner, who then turn, themselves into a first time offender, because of their gun violence crime, should be treating the second amendment better, instead of abusing it with their mass shootings, or gun violence crimes.
(Which is the bigger right?
The right to bear arms?
Or the right to live and enjoy ones life, without it being infringed upon, by someone committing an illegal gun violence crime, against someone?
Which is the bigger right?)
This is the bigger right:
This right is the bigger right:
The right to live and enjoy ones life, without it being infringed upon, by someone committing an illegal gun violence crime, against someone?
Regardless of how some may individually choose to view the Second Amendment with their individual narratives.